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tea lady
14th April 2014, 05:03 PM
A customer came in with some Malley burl root balls rescued from the fire wood pile. Definitely to nice to burn. She wanted some bowl made for her family that would remind them of home. After gazing at them trying to work out an angle of attack I started on the smallest one. Some very nice wood hiding in there.
This one will have a little bowl hovering above the bigger bowl, that is mostly not there. If you know what I mean. Fun. Lots of hand sanding required cos as I say, its mostly not there. A little hard on the fingers.

Lots of cups of tea and gazing for the next one now.:cool:

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hughie
14th April 2014, 05:36 PM
Looking good so far, look forward to the finished piece

Skew ChiDAMN!!
14th April 2014, 06:38 PM
Lots of hand sanding required cos as I say, its mostly not there. A little hard on the fingers.

That's where the velcro-backed 2" sanding discs in a drill come in really handy. ;)


Lots of cups of tea and gazing for the next one now.:cool:

This, I can totally relate to! :D

dai sensei
14th April 2014, 07:56 PM
Many a good find in the firewood pile :U. Looking good so far, are you going to turn the outside too, or is that it?

Reminds me of this one I did from a piece I found buried in my mum's garden (see here post #39: http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=141776&p=1384769#post1384769)

Tim the Timber Turner
14th April 2014, 08:11 PM
Hi Ann Marie

Could I suggest that you use some of the proceeds from this job to purchase some larger jaws for your chuck?

That's a rather small spigot for a large hard lumpy Mallee stump.

I look forward to seeing the finished Job.

It did remind me of a wedding gift I made for a family member 20 years ago.

They wanted a large bowl and I suggested Red gum.

They said no, Mallee Burl please.

Thinking this would change their mind I said "you find the Burl".

They did. They turned up with a 70KG stump strapped into the back seat of their little Ford Laser.

It had root spikes 2 feet long sticking out of it.

I trimmed it to 35KG before mounting it onto the lathe for turning.

I did see the bowl recently. It survived a divorce and a second marriage and still held pride of place in one house.

Cheers

Tim:)

smiife
14th April 2014, 09:00 PM
Hi TL,
Looking good , how does the red malee remind them
of home?
How do you turn the base or are you leaving it flat ?
Just watch your fingers too!:o
Great job so far, well done
Cheers smiife:2tsup:

chuck1
14th April 2014, 10:36 PM
that looks fun to be turning! maybe I should drink more to get the imagination working with all the lumps of timber I have?!
can't wait to see the end result!

tea lady
14th April 2014, 11:15 PM
Hi Ann Marie

Could I suggest that you use some of the proceeds from this job to purchase some larger jaws for your chuck?

That's a rather small spigot for a large hard lumpy Mallee stump.

I look forward to seeing the finished Job.



Tim:)I am turning this an Knox Wood workers on the big vicmark lathe. My lathes are to small. Although this little one only missed out by 10 mm on one point fitting on my Jet middy lathe. There are big chucks at Knox so no worries holding the bigger pieces.

I will try the 75mm velcro sandpaper on the drill thanks Skew. I have been inventing in my mind a mini ROS about that big with a curved face. How to make curved sand paper could be tricky. :hmm:

Paul39
15th April 2014, 02:04 AM
Tea Lady,

You are doing a wonderful variety of turnings. I am most impressed with your design & workwomanship.

As to sanding, one of these:

http://www.asia.ru/images/target/photo/51144177/Dish_Brush_with_Transparent_Handle_and_Liquid_Dispenser.jpg
Or these with bristles cut off and double sided foam tape applied:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_S3-Qc3ayKsY/TAE7u-wM3MI/AAAAAAAAApY/mKgKRT3FH2o/s320/dish+brush.jpg
will save fingers. More Variations:

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=853&bih=506&q=dish+brush&oq=dish+brush&gs_l=img.12..0l3j0i5l7.6953.10241.0.14723.10.10.0.0.0.0.293.2233.0j3j7.10.0....0...1ac.1.40.img..0.10.2215.nR-D7jWjUDk#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=JT9lPF3owRvd8M%253A%3BCt0QF0ZVix3WgM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252F3.bp.blogspot.com%252F_S3-Qc3ayKsY%252FTAE7u-wM3MI%252FAAAAAAAAApY%252FmKgKRT3FH2o%252Fs320%252Fdish%252Bbrush.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Forganicmamas.blogspot.com%252F2010%252F05%252Fvinegar-cleans-dish-brushes.html%3B200%3B200

tea lady
15th April 2014, 10:59 AM
I found myself wondering if I could stick sand paper to a vibrator. :think: Would the bloke in the sex shop believe my excuse?

Tim the Timber Turner
15th April 2014, 12:18 PM
I found myself wondering if I could stick sand paper to a vibrator.

I'd start off small and work up in size.

Like I mean, you wouldn't want a large vibrator to get loose in the workshop would you?:B:o:no:

I'd start off with a battery operated toothbrush and work up from there.:2tsup:

Cheers

Tim:)

tea lady
15th April 2014, 06:04 PM
coveting one of these now. Can't see them in Australian suppliers. Air tool so I'd need a compressor too. Which I can use at Knox Woodworkers until I get my own. Have a few things I could use it on. ( I know where you get the little round spongy pads on sticks now. ) http://vinceswoodnwonders.com/drills-and-pnuematic-sanders/#comments If I ship one in who else would like one?

http://vinceswoodnwonders.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Grex-Sander-with-Extensions-and-Pads.jpg

smiife
15th April 2014, 08:20 PM
coveting one of these now. Can't see them in Australian suppliers. Air tool so I'd need a compressor too. Which I can use at Knox Woodworkers until I get my own. Have a few things I could use it on. ( I know where you get the little round spongy pads on sticks now. ) http://vinceswoodnwonders.com/drills-and-pnuematic-sanders/#comments If I ship one in who else would like one?

http://vinceswoodnwonders.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Grex-Sander-with-Extensions-and-Pads.jpg

Hi tl,
Not sure if you are interested but you might want
to try www.ultimatetools.com , look in sanders
there is a 3" mini sander, which looks similar and
they are in aussie, hope this helps
cheers smiife:2tsup:

wheelinround
16th April 2014, 09:32 AM
[/QUOTE]

Hi tl,
Not sure if you are interested but you might want
to try www.ultimatetools.com (http://www.ultimatetools.com) , look in sanders
there is a 3" mini sander, which looks similar and
they are in aussie, hope this helps
cheers smiife:2tsup:[/QUOTE]

:no: link not going to right place smifie

OR you could go to ALDI Saturday https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-buys/saturday-19-april-2014/saturday-detail-wk16/ps/p/air-sander-kit/

tea lady
16th April 2014, 10:30 AM
I don't think those sanders are Random orbital. Also the Grex one has 1 inch pads as well, and extension bars. And an angled handle so the air hose isn't in you way.

Poloris
16th April 2014, 12:53 PM
http://www.davidreedsmith.com/Articles/FoamBallSander/FoamBallSander.htm

This guy has a practical and almost elegant solution to wrap sandpaper around a foam ball sander.
First he cuts the velcro backed sandpaper to a flower like pattern on a scroll saw.
There is some interesting articles on his site.
I want to make one of these sanders.
Mark

Skew ChiDAMN!!
16th April 2014, 06:32 PM
This (http://www.popsshed.com.au/Product_Main.aspx?cid=41&scid=119&pid=554) is what I use and I heartily recommend it.

It's a bit pricey, but is double-bearinged and comes with 2x 2" sanding pads & 2x 3" pads (+ arbours) which can be quickly slipped out of the handle and into a corded or battery drill for some "off the lathe" power sanding.

If you can't justify spending that much in one hit on one tool, well... they also sell a 2" pad for about $10 or a 3" pad for $18-ish. (http://www.popsshed.com.au/Product_List.aspx?cid=41&scid=120)



FWIW, there have been times I couldn't be bothered remounting a piece to sand AND I couldn't be bothered finding one of my many drills - the mongrels hide in the sawdust! - so I simply s;lip one of these pads into a jacob's chuck in my headstock and 'buff' the piece. ;)

tea lady
16th April 2014, 06:59 PM
I do have one of those Skew. But this thing is only a bit dearer and has all three sized pads, AND is random orbital, so no swirl marks.

tea lady
16th April 2014, 07:00 PM
But I still might make a ball sander. Thanks Polaris. :)

smiife
16th April 2014, 07:54 PM
[QUOwww.iife;1766266]
coveting one of these now. Can't see them in Australian suppliers. Air tool so I'd need a compressor too. Which I can use at Knox Woodworkers until I get my own. Have a few things I could use it on. ( I know where you get the little round spongy pads on sticks now. ) http://vinceswoodnwonders.com/drills-and-pnuematic-sanders/#comments If I ship one in who else would like one?

http://vinceswoodnwonders.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Grex-Sander-with-Extensions-and-Pads.jpg

Hi tl,
Not sure if you are interested but you might want
to try www.ultimatetools.com (http://www.ultimatetools.com) , look in sanders
there is a 3" mini sander, which looks similar and
they are in aussie, hope this helps
cheers smiife:2tsup:[/QUOTE]

Hi tl,
Sorry left off the" hey you"
Try www.ultimatetools.com.au
Cheers smiife:2tsup:

Skew ChiDAMN!!
17th April 2014, 12:25 AM
I do have one of those Skew. But this thing is only a bit dearer and has all three sized pads, AND is random orbital, so no swirl marks.

:doh: This is what happens when I don't pay attention... somehow I missed a few posts. :-

tea lady
17th April 2014, 01:04 AM
I think I'm starting to get the longo. This little 3inch ROS has a 2.5 MM orbit. Which I think means the little circles in the big circle. :hmm: The grex one hs an operating pressure of 90 PSI, the same as this. ( My friend who know about these things reckons that is a big air concumption. ) Also looks like the Aldi one. Might have to go and look to try and ascertain if it is ROS or just OS.

tea lady
17th April 2014, 01:13 AM
Will give the ball sander a go tomorrow. Further research required.

wheelinround
19th April 2014, 02:24 PM
Its ROS AM

http://taurusair.com.au/?code=90127402

tea lady
14th May 2014, 11:46 AM
After a little angst I ordered the Grex Random orbital sander. (Did find something kind of equivalent in Australia but it was over $300 and didn't have as many differant sized sanding pads. This was shipped with all the attachments for $150. And I got a new Thompsom bowl gouge as well. $200 all up and I'm still ahead. ) Arrived on my doorstep today. Looks pretty cool, nice and small, but still pretty heavy. Will be able to test it on Friday.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/q77/s480x480/10314488_752717941429520_6522645108061774959_n.jpg

jefferson
14th May 2014, 12:04 PM
Hi Ann Marie

Could I suggest that you use some of the proceeds from this job to purchase some larger jaws for your chuck?

That's a rather small spigot for a large hard lumpy Mallee stump.

I look forward to seeing the finished Job.

It did remind me of a wedding gift I made for a family member 20 years ago.

They wanted a large bowl and I suggested Red gum.

They said no, Mallee Burl please.

Thinking this would change their mind I said "you find the Burl".

They did. They turned up with a 70KG stump strapped into the back seat of their little Ford Laser.

It had root spikes 2 feet long sticking out of it.

I trimmed it to 35KG before mounting it onto the lathe for turning.

I did see the bowl recently. It survived a divorce and a second marriage and still held pride of place in one house.

Cheers

Tim:)TL, Tim wasn't talking about the size of the chuck, more about the jaws which definitely seem undersized. Or have I got that round the wrong way, Tim?

tea lady
14th May 2014, 06:49 PM
The size of the chuck and/or jaws were fine for this little burl. I will use the bigger chuck on the other bigger burls.