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morrisman
11th October 2014, 10:52 AM
Just wondering if anybody owns one of these ?

I am looking for a manual .

mike

Ueee
11th October 2014, 10:55 AM
What! Not another machine Mike?

Ew

morrisman
11th October 2014, 11:16 AM
What! Not another machine Mike?

Ew


Ha ! I am not sure yet Ewan. I will keep you guessing

RayG
11th October 2014, 12:15 PM
Hi Mike,

I have a Cinci #2 partly restored... they made these in so many places around the world over such a long period..., and they have been cloned by so many other makers, that makes getting the exact model right a bit tricky.

What model were you after? Here are just a few of the many types... ( mine is close to the EM model. ) Here's a thread on mine.. (so far) http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=148581&page=5

The OM model.
http://www.backsaw.net/pics/TC/Cinc2TC-OM.jpg

The LL model
http://www.backsaw.net/pics/TC/Cinc2TC-LL.jpg

The MT Model (Milacron)
http://www.backsaw.net/pics/TC/Cinc2TC-MT.jpg

The EM model
http://www.backsaw.net/pics/TC/Cinc2TC-EM.jpg

Ray

morrisman
11th October 2014, 07:12 PM
Thanks Ray

Looks like the manual I need is for the LL model . The machine I am looking at is a LL model , it is a good asking price, but it hasn't got any attachments with it . It would be a long term project ... well they are all long term in my case :?

Have you made any progress with your #2 ? It appears to be a odd ball model you have .

regards mike

steran50
11th October 2014, 09:34 PM
HI morrisman,
I don't own the machine, but I have the Manual for the Model 'LL' and also the Model 'DO'. The Manual is to be big of a File to upload here it's 74.105MB in size. Do you or anyone viewing this Thread know of a Free File sharing site that we could use. Otherwise PM me with your Postal Address and I'll put it on Disc and post it to you. If you go to this link and scroll down you can download some Cincinnati Brochures amongst other machines http://www.sterlingmachinery.com/brochures.php

Ueee
11th October 2014, 10:14 PM
Dropbox is free up to a certain limit, but i if i remember correctly Mike's internet won't be up to it.

Ew

.RC.
12th October 2014, 07:28 AM
http://users.beagle.com.au/lathefan/%232%20TC%20grinder001.pdf

morrisman
15th October 2014, 12:34 PM
Its here

It is made in Birmingham UK and it appears to be more like the pre war model as seen in that link of the manual RC posted . Very solid unit , it shows normal signs of usage and wear, the table is in good shape thank goodness

Has 1 hp 3 phase motor .

Rather complicated switch box with contacts etc.

morrisman
15th October 2014, 06:19 PM
Some pics

The electrical switching components inside the cabinet are probably surplus to my needs - I will be using a VFD . The cabinet itself will make a handy storage area .

The transformer in the top LH corner is 415 to 110 Volts .

The small lever on the front is a one shot lube system , you give it a pull and it pushes lubricant around the machine .

Mike

steran50
15th October 2014, 10:22 PM
HI,
Looks good Mike, just needs a bit of a tidy up.

morrisman
16th October 2014, 11:53 AM
As I dont need the 3 phase electrical contactors and associated bits, they are available free to anyone who wants them

Mike

Machtool
16th October 2014, 05:13 PM
Found this while looking for something else, apparently that's the operators manual, showing set up for grinding.

http://www.lostcreekmachine.com/PDF/2TCgrinder001.pdf

Phil

steran50
16th October 2014, 07:38 PM
Found this while looking for something else, apparently that's the operators manual, showing set up for grinding.

http://www.lostcreekmachine.com/PDF/2TCgrinder001.pdf

Phil

Hi,
That manual is for the 'EM' model the same as what RC posted. I just had a look through their Website and they have quite a lot of stuff New and Used.

morrisman
18th October 2014, 10:05 PM
Another one on EBAY

It appears to be a OM model . The table is set up the opposite way around compared to the machine I have here .

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/tool-and-cutter-grinder-/321552416613?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item4ade047f65

Apparently the version I have is a mixture of USA and UK bits - going by the manuals I have read, the wheelhead on this particular machine dates back to the pre war UK model , but the base seems to be like the LL USA model, very confusing .Mike

.RC.
18th October 2014, 10:15 PM
I thought they were all much of a muchness as far as usage.. They are good sharpening machines, a lot of it is because of their mass dampens vibrations....

morrisman
20th October 2014, 07:33 PM
hi All

The bidding on that cinci tool grinder has got out of control - it is up to $1.25 .:o Maybe somebody can save this old gem from the scrap dealers . Mike

jhovel
20th October 2014, 08:04 PM
I'm actually interested in it and its close to where I live.... But I already have a very small C.C. T&C grinder.... so
Let me know if you really want it - no point us bidding against each other!