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ubeaut
2nd Nov 2014, 11:40 PM
Our new Aussie Oil is now available on line through our slightly new look online store U-Beaut Polishes (http://www.ubeaut.com.au/ubhome.htm) and should be available at some of our distributors in the next few weeks, once we get the info to them all.

Took it to Phillip Island in some trial bottles and the overwhelming response was WOW!!!

Currently it is only available in 250ml red bottles. This may well change if and when we can get the new bottles that I want.

It works a treat and is very quick. Similar to Danish style oils but completely different in that it builds to a brilliant shine in almost no time at all. Information sheet is available HERE (http://www.ubeaut.com.au/pdf/no16.pdf)

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Cheers - Neil :U

PS There's a spelling mistake on the front of the label, but I'll fix that up with some sticky tape later on.

george mavridis
2nd Nov 2014, 11:50 PM
The attachment doesn't work.

Can this oil be used for pieces on the lathe and polished with the lathe running?

issatree
3rd Nov 2014, 01:31 AM
Hi to you all,
It's a Winner in my book.
Pauline & Neil took it to DUTA, & I polished a different style of Pen, which I put in the Geelong Agri. Show, Vic. & won 1st. prize with it.
It was 2 pieces of Ebony, being Pen & Holder.
I realise that the Pen & Holder were not very big, & very little effort used to obtain an Absolutely Brilliant Finish, rubbed it on with a small piece of Cloth & then Buffed it up on a Swans-down Mop on the Lathe.
I now own a Bottle of Aussie Oil, & don't forget to shake it well before using it.
Sorry no Photos, not good at that.

Chesand
3rd Nov 2014, 07:37 AM
The attachment doesn't work.

Worked OK for me.

rob streeper
3rd Nov 2014, 07:49 AM
Our new Aussie Oil is now available on line through our slightly new look online store U-Beaut Polishes (http://www.ubeaut.com.au/ubhome.htm) and should be available at some of our distributors in the next few weeks, once we get the info to them all.

Took it to Phillip Island in some trial bottles and the overwhelming response was WOW!!!

Currently it is only available in 250ml red bottles. This may well change if and when we can get the new bottles that I want.

It works a treat and is very quick. Similar to Danish style oils but completely different in that it builds to a brilliant shine in almost no time at all. Information sheet is available HERE (http://www.ubeaut.com.au/pdf/no16.pdf)

http://www.ubeaut.com.au/aussieoil2.gif

Cheers - Neil :U

PS There's a spelling mistake on the front of the label, but I'll fix that up with some sticky tape later on.

Hi Neil,

I looked over your data sheet and I think I see an error. You list the product as containing ethanol and then in parentheses you write '100% Industrial Methylated Spirits'. Methylated spirits usually means methanol or methyl (wood) alcohol, which is not ethanol. Do you use denatured ethanol containing methanol?

Cheers,
Rob

Dengue
3rd Nov 2014, 07:56 AM
How would this oil go on larger surfaces like boxes? Is it intended for this? Rubbing it on with a finger would make it a lot of hard work.
How long does it take to cure, and do you apply wax afterwards?

Master Splinter
3rd Nov 2014, 08:58 AM
Typo on the web page as well (first para, last sentence - 'dose').

Just for smaller items, or larger stuff like boxes (small tables, stools, chairs...)?

Softens in alcohol or is that just a carrier for something else that sets/dries/polymerises after the alcohol flashes off?

Hopefully it'll be a good replacement for cyanoacryaltes for those pen turners who have developed a sensitivity from CA finishing (maybe a few small sample bottles to some of the forum members who can no longer use superglue to see if it works ok with them).

ubeaut
5th Nov 2014, 01:33 AM
Hi Neil,

I looked over your data sheet and I think I see an error. You list the product as containing ethanol and then in parentheses you write '100% Industrial Methylated Spirits'. Methylated spirits usually means methanol or methyl (wood) alcohol, which is not ethanol. Do you use denatured ethanol containing methanol?

Cheers,
Rob

G'day Rob - The product does indeed contain Ethanol it is labelled with 100% Industrial Methylated Spirits because in Australia that is what most people know it as. For years a small portion of methanol was added as a denaturant to stop it from being ingested, hence the name Methylated Spirits ours does not contain methanol but around 0.5% of another denaturant which makes it extremely bitter and unpalatable. Methanol is extremely toxic and I'm pretty sure is very rarely used in Australia to denature ethanol any more.

In Australia Methylated Spirits is the common name it is also known as Ethanol, Ethel Alcohol and Denatured Alcohol. But most Aussies know it purely as Methylated Spirits and until a few years ago, when they controversially started adding Ethanol to petrol most people had hear of it.

Hope this answers your question for you.


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How would this oil go on larger surfaces like boxes? Is it intended for this? Rubbing it on with a finger would make it a lot of hard work.
How long does it take to cure, and do you apply wax afterwards?

I designed it for use on small items, but in all honesty no matter what I make or what it is designed to be used for people will always do their own thing and find other ways of using and applying it. Having said that, yes it can be used on larger surfaces but you would need to practice with it first. To date I haven't ventured anywhere past 6" x 4" box top using a small tight wad of flannelette as the applicator. At the show I was doing small pieces around the size of a match box top and using roughly enough to cover the head of a pin.

Sanding finely seems to be the main key yo getting a brilliant finish. Sanding up to 1200 grit gives an amazing base for the finish to build on and gives by far the best results that I have so far come up with.

Curing is within a few minutes of finishing the application. The application is finished when the oily smear starts to disappear during the rubbing and the face of the cloth is beginning to glaze. This oil is based on our Hard Shellac and will cross link over a period of 20 days but it reaches its full hardness once it has fully dried. The 20 days of cross linking gives it a really high resistance to marking from alcohol, water and heat.

There is no need to wax over the top of this finish. Matter of fact there really isn't any need to wax over the top of any thing that has a really good finish as most waxes are easier to damage than the finish they are supposed to be enhancing or protecting. I would only use a wax on a surface that has dulled with age or wear and needs a freshen up or a bit more lustre.


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Can this oil be used for pieces on the lathe and polished with the lathe running?

Yes it can and with astounding results. At the WWWShow I sanded an Osage Orange disc up to 1200 grit, stopped the lathe, applied a small amount of the oil to the disc giving it a rough spread all over the surface, turned the lathe back on and worked the Aussie Oil into the disc the same way as I would Shellawax. The finish in one coat was absolutely astounding.


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Typo on the web page as well (first para, last sentence - 'dose'). Strewth... Some people are really picky aren't they. Thanks for that, fixed now.

Just for smaller items, or larger stuff like boxes (small tables, stools, chairs...)? See the 2nd response above. Personally I'd be sticking to smaller items but if you intend to have a go at a bigger item have a practise first before jumping in boots and all.

Softens in alcohol or is that just a carrier for something else that sets/dries/polymerises after the alcohol flashes off? Once it's cured and cross liked it should be impervious to almost everything. I say should because I have no control over how the finish is used or what else is done to it once it leaves us.

Hopefully it'll be a good replacement for cyanoacryaltes for those pen turners who have developed a sensitivity from CA finishing (maybe a few small sample bottles to some of the forum members who can no longer use superglue to see if it works ok with them). Had a phone message from Guilio Marcolongo saying he had used it on a turned item and was over the moon with the results. Guilio is an avid user of super glue.

For what it's worth.... The effects of CA sensitivity disappear almost as soon a you stop using it (or at least they're supposed to). However I can't get past the old saying: "If it has really high aromatics, it isn't good for you." and superglue (CA) fumes coming from the heat of polishing it on the lathe are obnoxiously high in aromatics so I just won't use it at all. I'm surprised that there haven't been more people made ill from the fumes.

Not too keen on sample bottles, as you need so little that we probably won't sell the sampler a replacement bottle for another few years. May still have a couple of them still kicking around after Down Under Turn Around.



Bit long winded, but I hope this sorts out all the questions for everyone.


Cheers - Neil http://d1r5wj36adg1sk.cloudfront.net/images/smilies/happy/biggrin.gif

rob streeper
5th Nov 2014, 02:45 AM
Thanks for the response Neil,

Here there are three commonly available forms of denatured alcohol (ethanol): First and most commonly encountered is made by the addition of ~4% v/v methanol and or isopropanol. Next is the version denatured with benzene, I really can't believe that this is so common because of the carcinogenicity of the benzene and the third is denatured with Bitrex. The Bitrex denatured material requires a special license to purchase issued by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms so you don't see it much.

Are any of your US distributors going to carry this?

Cheers,
Rob

ubeaut
5th Nov 2014, 10:53 PM
G'day Rob - Not sure yet haven't told them as yet. But will inform PSI in the coming weeks and maybe they will bring some in for a trial. They supply all the US resellers with the exception of Luthiers Mercantile who bring in the Hard Shellac.

Unfortunately like mush of our stuff this one is also DG (dangerous Goods) making it hellishly expensive to freight around the country. But I dare say it will get there eventually. One way or another.

We aren't in in full production of it as yet currently just making small batches. It isn't even available at most of our Australian distributors yet. Even that could take a few weeks yet.

Busy over the next week doing a rewrite of "A Polishers Handbook" so it can go off to the printers before Christmas and this will put the Aussie Oil on the back burner for at least another couple of weeks.

Cheers - Neil :U

PS for anyone who wants some of the Aussie Oil it is currently available on line from us, from Carroll's Woodcraft Supplies, Timbecon and Trend Timbers. Carrol's have it in stock now and the others will have it in a couple of days.

rob streeper
5th Nov 2014, 11:41 PM
Neil,

Have you considered the possibility of shipping it as a concentrate? Reconstitute in alcohol on use; if practical of course.

Cheers,
Rob

ubeaut
7th Nov 2014, 12:15 AM
Can't be reconstituted. Shipping from here to US isn't a problem as it would be shipped by sea as DG along with the other 3 to 4 cubic meters of DG we send a number of times a year. It's the internal shipping once it gets there that is the problem. Worse than ever since 9/11.

Cheers - Neil :U

rob streeper
7th Nov 2014, 12:57 AM
... Worse than ever since 9/11.

Cheers - Neil :U


Interesting how such a monumental governmental (intelligence?) failure has been turned into a whole raft of new strictures on the civil rights of the citizenry huh?