Stemp roughing gouge

[Phil Hansen]

Was watching a video by Brenden Stemp on a peppermill.
He has a roughing gouge with a very unothodox shape.
Anybody tried this grind? Worth regrinding an existing gouge?
Thanks
Phil

[george mavridis]

I watched that video as well and was intrigued by the variation to the standard roughing gouge grind. Obviously it works for him and I would be interested to see what the more experienced among us have to say.

[dai sensei]

A link would help :rolleyes: PLus time stamp when shown

[george mavridis]

Around the 2.00min mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q2J2SocRa8

[Paul39]

I make 95% bowls so do not have a roughing gouge for the tool handles I make. I have been using a 5/8 inch bowl gouge as my spindle roughing gouge. The grind on Brenden's roughing gouge is close to a swept back bowl gouge grind.

The way he is using the gouge is more of a slicing cut, and I'm sure makes for a smoother surface with less tear out.

[Acco]

A couple of stills from the video

[Jim Carroll]

Looks a bit like a 22mm P&N supagouge reshaped with the fingernail grind

http://www.cwsonline.com.au/shop/category/-pn-supa-gouge

[Phil Hansen]

A link would help :rolleyes: PLus time stamp when shown
Sorry :- forgot about that. Thanks George for posting it.
Phil

[mat_au]

was going to post the same thing after i seen the video. i have seen that kinda grind on another video but can seam to find it
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[KBs PensNmore]

Interesting grind, will have to butcher mine to try it. Had thought about it, as I use mine on the side quite often.
Kryn

[Phil Hansen]

Interesting grind, will have to butcher mine to try it. Had thought about it, as I use mine on the side quite often.
Kryn

if you do do it feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks
Phil

[brendan stemp]

This thread almost passed without my noticing it. I have enjoyed a cyber free (almost) 3 week holiday and I only found out about it because I was alerted to it by... sorry, I can't remember but think it was George.

I have been using this style of grind for a few years now and really like it. The RG in question is a 25mm P&N RG, (the best on the market IMHO) and is quite a few years old, hence the short length of it. I started grinding it with my Tru Grind as I would a bowl gouge.

The reason for this grind is because I can present the either of the long edges of the RG to the spinning wood in a similar that you would a skew chisel.
Yes, this can be done with a conventional grind but you shouldn't because you would be using it in a similar way to using a skew with the toe down. And the reason you wouldn't use a skew with the toe down to smooth a spindle (although I do do this myself occasionally) is because the cutting edge is not adjacent to the fulcrum point on the toolrest which means the cutting edge isn't being well supported. This results in a twisting of the tool which can result in the tip of the skew coming into contact with the wood; a catch the result.

I think this is explained better in my video The Skew Part 2 see link. It may be in the first part... unsure!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_KTlMwnNpc&list=UUYJ4e0XACGJQjJvfmVUcE-Q

I'm not sure how well this explains it so I will do a video of it soon.

I also like this grind because you get to wear out more of you cutting edge before the need for re-sharpening. With a conventional RG the edge at the bottom of the flute seems to be used the most but when you re-shapren it you sharpen/grind the whole edge. This means you are re-sharpening an edge that doesn't need to be re-sharpened.

[Phil Hansen]

Thanks for the explaination.
Look forward to the video.

Phil

[Skew ChiDAMN!!]

I also like this grind because you get to wear out more of you cutting edge before the need for re-sharpening. With a conventional RG the edge at the bottom of the flute seems to be used the most but when you re-shapren it you sharpen/grind the whole edge. This means you are re-sharpening an edge that doesn't need to be re-sharpened.

This! :2tsup:

I've seen many an RG that the owner has only sharpened the bottom, 'cos "that's where it's blunt" :rolleyes:, leaving horns on each wing. Dangerous, dangerous, dangerous!

A swept back grind is much more user friendly than a square grind, IMHO, esp. for a novice. Although mine are not swept back as far as Brendan's... might give it a try next time I'm at the grinder. :think: