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planemaker
11th January 2015, 08:40 PM
Taking a bit of a break from traditional hand planes. Time to make a couple of new backsaws.

Below is a new handle I am currently working on.

The handle wood is Tasmanian Blackwood. (fiddleback grain)

There are no plans to continually update this post at every stage. I will post more photo's of the backsaw when its completed.

90% of the work I do on my saws is all done by hand. Not too many fancy machines. I prefer it that way.

Stewie;

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/traditional%20handle/DSC_0436_zpsf31acd20.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/traditional%20handle/DSC_0436_zpsf31acd20.jpg.html)

Simplicity
11th January 2015, 09:28 PM
Will eagerly await it's completion
Stewie

D.W.
15th January 2015, 01:57 AM
Stewie, can you direct me to where on this forum your planemaking threads are? Being an infrequent visitor, I find it difficult to navigate sometimes.

Thanks!

planemaker
15th January 2015, 09:54 AM
Hi DW. Your already in the right area of the forum now. Scroll through the pages and open any of the threads that have been started by me.

Stewie;

D.W.
17th January 2015, 04:52 AM
Hi DW. Your already in the right area of the forum now. Scroll through the pages and open any of the threads that have been started by me.

Stewie;

Thanks, Stewie. I agree with your comment about the hand tools for sure! One of the lovely things about building tools by hand is that there's not usually too much hand work (compared to building a piece of casework where the prep has to be treated as an exercise regimen). And very little to clamping (plus working by hand always makes us more demanding in terms of stock quality).

I am always amazed at folks building many saws. Every time I even go so far as to source parts and put them together, they send me running back to making planes!

planemaker
17th January 2015, 10:50 AM
Hi DW. I guess that makes me a little fortunate. I get to enjoy a mix of plane making and saw making.

Here is the same saw handle with a bit more shape to it.

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/traditional%20handle/DSC_0439_zpsee3e7d73.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/traditional%20handle/DSC_0439_zpsee3e7d73.jpg.html)


Stewie;

D.W.
22nd January 2015, 08:47 AM
Hi DW. I guess that makes me a little fortunate. I get to enjoy a mix of plane making and saw making.

Here is the same saw handle with a bit more shape to it.

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/traditional%20handle/DSC_0439_zpsee3e7d73.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/traditional%20handle/DSC_0439_zpsee3e7d73.jpg.html)


Stewie;


Looks good! Polished looking, too!

planemaker
22nd January 2015, 12:14 PM
Hi DW. What you seeing is not achieved by means of buffing or polishing the wood surface.

Its a result of shellac being effectively used as a grain filler.

The latest photo shows the surface of the handle wood quite early within this grain filling process.

regards Stewie;

planemaker
22nd January 2015, 06:47 PM
This photo shows an assembled view of the backsaw so far.

The saw plate length is 12 inches.

Stewie;

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/traditional%20handle/_DSC0441_zps8eit7fha.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/traditional%20handle/_DSC0441_zps8eit7fha.jpg.html)

planemaker
28th January 2015, 01:29 AM
Some feedback from another forum has prompted me to make a change to the way the top line of the brass hardback will end up being shaped.

The new profile now only extends 1 inch back from the front toe.

To accomplish this I have shortened the length of the saw plate from being 12 inches to now 10 inches. Not a big deal.

Hand filing the saw teeth to 14 tpi, with a fine tooth set has been completed . (I dont need a Foley Machine).

All that's left to do is take some photo's of the completed backsaw.

regards Stewie;

planemaker
28th January 2015, 12:25 PM
Here are the completed photo's of the backsaw.

regards Stewie;

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/traditional%20handle/_DSC0442_zpswzle3jej.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/traditional%20handle/_DSC0442_zpswzle3jej.jpg.html)

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/traditional%20handle/_DSC0444_zpsijjvm9wv.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/traditional%20handle/_DSC0444_zpsijjvm9wv.jpg.html)

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/traditional%20handle/_DSC0445_zpsgoykbfum.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/traditional%20handle/_DSC0445_zpsgoykbfum.jpg.html)

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/traditional%20handle/_DSC0446_zpszr1nq5uh.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/traditional%20handle/_DSC0446_zpszr1nq5uh.jpg.html)

DSEL74
28th January 2015, 12:44 PM
Very nice mate! I'm now wondering when your going to start engraving the spine or putting an etch on the blade…You seem to have mastered all other aspects.

planemaker
28th January 2015, 01:39 PM
Thanks Dale. I wont be heading down the same road as some other saw makers and adding etch or any engraving to my backsaws.

Stewie;

planemaker
28th January 2015, 03:52 PM
The finish on the handle looks a little dull at the moment. The shellac still needs another week to fully harden before I can hand buff it to a higher sheen.

Stewie;

Sawdust Maker
28th January 2015, 05:07 PM
nice
and a lovely bit of timber in the handle

Simplicity
28th January 2015, 08:01 PM
Another nice one off the ranks there Stewie
I like the little bit of creative filing on the back

DSEL74
30th January 2015, 05:14 PM
The finish on the handle looks a little dull at the moment. The shellac still needs another week to fully harden before I can hand buff it to a higher sheen.

Stewie;


Stewie, I believe some of the other guys use a mop wheel to get that nice polish. I assumed you did the same. You said hand buff is that what you mean't or do you have a manual labor way of doing it that doesn't require the purchase of equipment???

hiroller
30th January 2015, 09:14 PM
Nicely done although I must say I quite liked the first version with the longer cutaway.
Kind of reminiscent of a nib on a hand saw.

planemaker
31st January 2015, 12:11 AM
Hi Dale. I use a combination of both buffing methods to work up a shine on the backsaw.

regards Stewie;

planemaker
31st January 2015, 12:47 AM
Kind of reminiscent of a nib on a hand saw.

Hi Hiroller. Minus the actual nib, that was the look I was trying to replicate.
http://www.disstonianinstitute.com/7page.html

regards Stewie;

DSEL74
31st January 2015, 09:21 AM
Hi Dale. I use a combination of both buffing methods to work up a shine on the backsaw.

regards Stewie;


Ahhh, I was hoping there was a way I could copy to get out of having to buy buffing mops to keep up with you guys.

hiroller
31st January 2015, 11:48 AM
Kind of reminiscent of a nib on a hand saw.

Hi Hiroller. Minus the actual nib, that was the look I was trying to replicate.
http://www.disstonianinstitute.com/7page.html

regards Stewie;

Well I don't know what the complaints were but I think you nailed it!

planemaker
1st February 2015, 03:28 PM
All work has now been completed on this backsaw.

I have included a photo showing the results of the kerf test on hardwood.

Thank you for your interest.

regards Stewie;


http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/traditional%20handle/_DSC0448_zpsji1qnpgf.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/traditional%20handle/_DSC0448_zpsji1qnpgf.jpg.html)

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/traditional%20handle/_DSC0449_zpsnuhcqmjv.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/traditional%20handle/_DSC0449_zpsnuhcqmjv.jpg.html)

planemaker
1st February 2015, 04:36 PM
Next time I better put my prescription glasses on. I could hardly see the pencil lines. :doh:

Stewie;

veloaficionado
19th February 2015, 12:23 PM
Very nice! What's the tooth profile: rip or crosscut (I guess crosscut)? Also, did you consider another handle screw? Another also: where did you source the blade plate?


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planemaker
19th February 2015, 03:00 PM
hello veloaficionado. Thank you for your feedback.

The answer to your questions. Its been sharpened rip tooth; 10 degrees negative rake so its also compatible for crosscut work; I purchased 0.020 and 0.025 saw plate through this forum.

regards Stewie;