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Jim Carroll
4th June 2015, 10:32 PM
Get your diaries out as changes are afoot

Melbourne Timber & Working with Wood Show will be at the Caulfield Racecourse on the 11-13th of September

Canberra Timber & Working with Wood Show will now be 6-8th of November.

Tell everyone about the changes as this is the biggest change in years for the shows.

Pac man
4th June 2015, 11:16 PM
Apart from the dates and the Melbourne location are there any other "big" changes?

A Duke
4th June 2015, 11:26 PM
Hi,
I hope they do some big publicising, because all the magazines have the old dates and they only changed their site today.
May be it will bring the events to the notice of more people this year.
Regards

doug3030
4th June 2015, 11:50 PM
:2tsup:

Well I have to say i am happy with that. I would rather it be back at the showgrounds. Caulfield is on the wrong side of the bridge, but at least it is accessible.

I cannot understand the rationale of moving it to Jeff's Shed in the first place. That was just a monumental disaster.

Now I just need to rearrange a few things for the date change and all will be good

Cheers

Doug

:2tsup:

Chesand
5th June 2015, 08:44 AM
It is on the wrong side of town for me also but it is a good venue with easy access from the train.
I have been there several times for the Model Railway Exhibition.

doug3030
5th June 2015, 10:50 AM
It is now on Impressive Exhibitions Website http://impressiveexhibitions.com.au/index.php/exhibitions/timber-working-with-wood/melbourne.html

Free parking at the racecourse! From previous experience I see no problem taking the trailer there either.

On the Downside, I just got an email newsletter from Chris Vesper. He will be on tour in the UK and US in September, so he will not be there this year. But I can always catch up with Chris at some of the other events he exhibits at in Melbourne.

I hope the date change does not catch any other exhibitors unaware. It is the diversity brought to the show by the smaller exhibitors that make the show what it is.

Cheers

Doug

issatree
5th June 2015, 12:12 PM
Hi All,
Have I got it wrong, isn't Down Under Turn Around on that weekend ???.

_fly_
5th June 2015, 12:25 PM
Hi All,
Have I got it wrong, isn't Down Under Turn Around on that weekend ???.

Isn't it usually during the school holidays?
this year they are 18 September to 5 October

Hope its not the same weekend.

doug3030
5th June 2015, 12:52 PM
Hi All,
Have I got it wrong, isn't Down Under Turn Around on that weekend ???.

On a very quick google search, th eonly reference to Downunder Turn Around is on Jim Carrol's site for events he will be attending and yes it is the same weekend. This could get interesting...

Doug

Jim Carroll
5th June 2015, 02:24 PM
On a very quick google search, th eonly reference to Downunder Turn Around is on Jim Carrol's site for events he will be attending and yes it is the same weekend. This could get interesting...

Doug

Yes the big question is do we spend a squillion dollars to make a few at the wood show or do we go to phillip island have a great weekend sell a few of our wares and cost almost nothing.

Mulgabill
5th June 2015, 04:28 PM
Yep issatree! on the same weekend as DUTA. I for one will not be going to the T&WWS. I'll find somewhere else to spend my loose change :p

Pac man
5th June 2015, 05:59 PM
Yes the big question is do we spend a squillion dollars to make a few at the wood show or do we go to phillip island have a great weekend sell a few of our wares and cost almost nothing.

No Vesper tools either.

issatree
5th June 2015, 06:08 PM
Hi Again,
I dare say it is almost impossible to shift DUTA.
Most likely a sealed time slot now.
You never know your luck.
I'll bet the Wood Show loses out on this one ???.

Mulgabill
5th June 2015, 06:58 PM
I know of a Kiwi who has booked flight to come to DUTA!

ubeaut
6th June 2015, 01:33 AM
Well I guess that will be a minimum 100-150 or more regular, staunch, 2-3 day attendees who won't be going to the Show this year.

As well as the Kiwi(s), Guilio has organised for at least one Yank turner to come to DUTA as well. Theo Haralampou was also talking about coming but looks like that isn't going to happen now either as I guess he'll be demonstrating at the T&WWWShow instead.

This was to have been our 26th year of Timber and Working With Wood Show in Melb but U-Beaut will be out of this one and any future ones that fall on the same weekend as Down Under Turnaround or any other long established event that the show organisers see fit to go up against.

This could be a shot in the arm for the shows but from where I stand it looks to me like they may have shot themselves in the foot instead.

Neil

PS As one of the longest time exhibitors and staunchest supporters of the shows it would have been nice to have received some sort of correspondence or at least a heads up about this before it appeared out of the blue.

Chesand
6th June 2015, 08:07 AM
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As one of the longest time exhibitors and staunchest supporters of the shows it would have been nice to have received some sort of correspondence or at least a heads up about this before it appeared out of the blue.

Pretty much basic courtesy, I would have thought. :((

I have just emailed them expressing my disappointment at their attitude. Perhaps a few more should do the same.

doug3030
6th June 2015, 09:27 AM
This was to have been our 26th year of Timber and Working With Wood Show in Melb but U-Beaut will be out of this one and any future ones that fall on the same weekend as Down Under Turnaround or any other long established event that the show organisers see fit to go up against.

So I guess that means no forum stand this year?

Doug

ubeaut
6th June 2015, 10:36 AM
If they're happy to have a forum stand then there's no reason why there won't be one. But I won't be there to do anything for it as I have another commitment for that Friday, Saturday and Sunday and I sure as hell won't be driving an hour or so to the other side of Melbourne to set up the day before I have to drive to waaaay the other side of Melbourne.

:U

Jim Carroll
6th June 2015, 07:04 PM
Well I guess that will be a minimum 100-150 or more regular, staunch, 2-3 day attendees who won't be going to the Show this year.

As well as the Kiwi(s), Guilio has organised for at least one Yank turner to come to DUTA as well. Theo Haralampou was also talking about coming but looks like that isn't going to happen now either as I guess he'll be demonstrating at the T&WWWShow instead.

This was to have been our 26th year of Timber and Working With Wood Show in Melb but U-Beaut will be out of this one and any future ones that fall on the same weekend as Down Under Turnaround or any other long established event that the show organisers see fit to go up against.

This could be a shot in the arm for the shows but from where I stand it looks to me like they may have shot themselves in the foot instead.

Neil

PS As one of the longest time exhibitors and staunchest supporters of the shows it would have been nice to have received some sort of correspondence or at least a heads up about this before it appeared out of the blue.

I agree with Neil a bit of a call before hand to see what they would be clashing with, I realise the caulfield location could be booked up for future dates due to the spring carnival but not checking with us as they know we do a lot of regional shows .

doug3030
6th June 2015, 08:53 PM
I just want to clarify - When I said:


Well I have to say i am happy with that.

- I was not aware of the clash of dates. What I was commenting on was that a couple of years ago when they announced that the show was moving to Jeff's Shed, I asked some questions relating to parking and access for trailers. The inability of the organizers to answer my concerns indicated that they had not even considered this important aspect for many show attendees. I think that the move to Caulfield has resolved the issues that I raised two years ago.

However, once again the organizers appear to have made a change without doing any proper research by going up against a well-established event for quite a number of dedicated woodworkers from one of the specialized areas of our craft.

With the WWW Show now only three months away, how many other exhibitors will not be able to reschedule things? Chris Vesper and U-Beaut have already said they are out. Jim Carroll has not declared his intentions yet but seems to be indicating a preference for Phillip Island. Having never attended the Turnaround, I do not know if there may be others who go to both events who will have to make a tough decision this year.

I will be watching with interest to see what happens from here.

Cheers

Doug

Jim Carroll
6th June 2015, 09:01 PM
Something we found out today from a freind who goes to the caravan show at the caulfield racecourse is that ther is only one road in and can take an hour just to get to the gate, then there is a long walk from the carpark which is in the middle of the course , as Rus said if you have your arms full of goodies it can be a very long walk back.

Slowly losing the love for this show.

Liz Falloon
9th June 2015, 12:55 PM
Sorry to hear that U Beaut and Jim Carroll aren't going to be supporting the Melbourne Show. Sadly Jim or Neil have not exhibited this year at any of the Shows. We continue to support the forum members by way of a discounted entry to the shows as well we have maintained the forum lounge on site. The decision to move the dates and venue for Melbourne was not made lightly but I ask you if you were in my place what would you do? We were faced with space rental increases, storage increases etc. I had 2 options:
a) increase exhibitor rates
b)run the Melbourne Show at a loss

Thank you to those members who support the move. Without exception we have had 100% positive response from our participating exhibitors for both Melbourne and Canberra moves! Liz

Liz Falloon
9th June 2015, 01:02 PM
forgot to say that we had indeed called our exhibitors who are currently booked into both Canberra and Melbourne............we do actually extend courtesy and have always believed in extending customer service.

Jim Carroll
9th June 2015, 01:52 PM
forgot to say that we had indeed called our exhibitors who are currently booked into both Canberra and Melbourne............we do actually extend courtesy and have always believed in extending customer service.

We did not get a call I actually made the call to Adam

Liz Falloon
9th June 2015, 07:44 PM
Jim I said all exhibitors who were booked in - you were not booked and in fact you told us last year it was not your intention to do the shows
this year - 2 reasons why you were not called. I take exception you say you will support those who have supported you. The implication is that we haven't supported you in the past...............I want you to think about that Jim!

Re your mention from your caravan friend that its a long walk.............well for many many years the ladies from Stitches and Craft (same aged demographic but female) have attended Caulfield and they manage the walk and carry goods. And to be remembered we also have a parcel pick up if the goods are too heavy to carry.

doug3030
9th June 2015, 09:08 PM
Re your mention from your caravan friend that its a long walk.............well for many many years the ladies from Stitches and Craft (same aged demographic but female) have attended Caulfield and they manage the walk and carry goods. And to be remembered we also have a parcel pick up if the goods are too heavy to carry.

I have accompanied my girlfriend to Stitches and Craft.


To quote from their website, http://stitchesandcraft.net.au/Melbourne/getting-to-the-show/#loaded


PARKING
The public car parking for The Stitches & Craft Show in Melbourne is in the Members 1 Car Park with the entry on Smith street. This is free parking with car parking attendants in place to assist with finding places for as many cars as they can. The Main Gate is a short walk across the road from the car park.

That is not the carpark in the centre of the grounds, is it? It is much closer.

I have also been to Caulfield for the caravan show once, and the difference in the walk from the two different car parks is considerable.

Please note that before writing this I was aware that your site is publicising parking in the centre of the course, not outside where the Stitches and Craft Ladies parked. I was happy to make that walk from the centre and pick up from the parcel pickup, but the point I am making is that once again you have not done your research properly and are comparing apples with oranges.

Cheers

Doug

Liz Falloon
11th June 2015, 02:44 PM
Doug you obviously have a lot of time on your hands and enjoy complaining...... suffice to say many of your comments are not worth responding to I am busy running shows for people who appreciate and enjoy them..............I am afraid I am now sadly aware that nothing we do will be good enough for you, and now understand why previous owners had nothing to do with this forum.

Groggy
11th June 2015, 05:51 PM
Well, first mistake was to hold the show at a Racecourse - everyone started nagging. :U

I'm a hobbyist woodworker and have enjoyed the show for years. I intend to go to this one too. I'd love to go to DUTA as well so maybe next year. I don't seem to get any emails or see any advertisements for this event but then again I have not been on the forums for ages.

The forums are a great place for positive criticism, always have been, and Liz should be applauded for commenting, even though she has been taking some lumps here. You have my respect for interacting with us even though it has got to the point it has, please stay with us.

I'm sure that the show will still be good for woodworkers though I will miss some of the familiar faces :C.

I hope the weekend is a success for everyone.