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david.elliott
27th July 2015, 01:09 PM
that can make me two of these?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wood-splitter-screw-cone-diameter-D-75mm-lenght-L-300mm-Double-lead-thread-/281758412167?hash=item419a1c2d87

Figured I'd get one, put it onto a small petrol motor and see how it goes...

PDW
27th July 2015, 03:18 PM
that can make me two of these?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wood-splitter-screw-cone-diameter-D-75mm-lenght-L-300mm-Double-lead-thread-/281758412167?hash=item419a1c2d87

Figured I'd get one, put it onto a small petrol motor and see how it goes...

Not for the price you can buy them off of that supplier.

PDW

.RC.
27th July 2015, 03:41 PM
Makes me wonder how he makes and sells them for that amount...

TheNutter
27th July 2015, 06:54 PM
I have seen videos of these things working and they look very dangerous! If you go this way be very careful. I wouldn't do it.

Ian

KBs PensNmore
27th July 2015, 07:05 PM
Makes me wonder how he makes and sells them for that amount...

Probably on a CNC machine, using offcuts stolen from work!!!!!!!
Problem I see with something like that is how do you drive it into stumps with out them turning?
I made something similar for a couple of log splitters, for doing stumps, used a stub axle from a car ground to a taper, and bolted to an adaptor plate.
Worked a treat.
Kryn

.RC.
27th July 2015, 07:26 PM
I have seen videos of these things working and they look very dangerous! If you go this way be very careful. I wouldn't do it.

Ian

Here, hold my beer and watch me do this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En47S7LM9zE

nadroj
27th July 2015, 07:28 PM
They look effective on softwood. Any evidence they work with Eucalyptus?
Seems risky anyhow.

Jordan

.RC.
27th July 2015, 07:33 PM
Seems risky anyhow.

Jordan

risky.. nah...

:D:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmtMv7Cz0HA

bwal74
27th July 2015, 07:36 PM
That's how the west was won!

Ben

Michael G
27th July 2015, 07:44 PM
So, a double start LH tapered thread.
Looks like fun - always wanted to try doing a tapered thread. 220mm may be testing the friendship on the TTA though.

Michael

KBs PensNmore
27th July 2015, 07:49 PM
risky.. nah...

:D:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmtMv7Cz0HA


That is b....y scary. I've done some stupid things in my youth, but that, NO WAY. Wouldn't catch me with in coeee of that thing.
Kryn

Stustoys
27th July 2015, 08:11 PM
risky.. nah...

:D:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmtMv7Cz0HA

I've always thought these things look harder work than swinging a splitter.

I guess it would depend on the wood

Stuart

PDW
27th July 2015, 09:27 PM
So, a double start LH tapered thread.
Looks like fun - always wanted to try doing a tapered thread. 220mm may be testing the friendship on the TTA though.

Michael

Not on my Monarch CY...... having said that Bass Strait will be frozen solid before I'd make something like that for a price that low......

PDW

Michael G
27th July 2015, 09:46 PM
...Bass Strait will be frozen solid before I'd make something like that for a price that low...

Remember that the price was US$. Having said that, a piece of 75mm diameter 300mm long would probably take a good proportion of that anyway.
I might make a scale version just to see if I could but a full size version looks like several hours work. :no:

Michael

david.elliott
28th July 2015, 10:56 AM
I've always thought these things look harder work than swinging a splitter.

I guess it would depend on the wood

Stuart

I cut my jarrah firewood in 500mm lengths, and usually ~600 - 900mm across, sometimes bigger if it's there.
So, picking it up is not really an option...and splitting with a block splitter can be....problematic.
I think my bigger challenge will be stopping the little petrol engine spinning, not the timber rounds...
In my head I have the unit with cone on some kind of trolley, that I take to the round.

Oldneweng
28th July 2015, 02:10 PM
I cut my jarrah firewood in 500mm lengths, and usually ~600 - 900mm across, sometimes bigger if it's there.
So, picking it up is not really an option...and splitting with a block splitter can be....problematic.
I think my bigger challenge will be stopping the little petrol engine spinning, not the timber rounds...
In my head I have the unit with cone on some kind of trolley, that I take to the round.

I have never had anything to do with cutting Jarrah. How does it compare with Red Gum? What do you regard as "a small petrol motor"? I would be thinking about the shaft of that small petrol motor and how much it will resist twisting and snapping. Do you have a reduction gearbox to use?

I have always cut firewood at about 300mm lengths where possible. Both of our stoves could take 500mm lengths, but I don't think the hassle of splitting 500mm of Red Gum is worth it. My splitter (Homemade) lifts the wood to working height.

This will be interesting to watch if you do continue. I have no idea about whether it will work with your timber, but I suspect you may be asking a bit more effort from the device than those rednecks were. I have seen either this video or a similar one before. I remember this topic being discussed before, on the forum I think.

I don't think it would work with the knarly Red Gum I see. It often needs splitting all the way thru, resisting to the very end. 220mm of action would see a still solid lump of partially split firewood.

Dean

neksmerj
28th July 2015, 08:58 PM
David, what you propose is too dangerous. Once the screw bites into the log, it will have a tendency to spin.

Something far simpler to build is a slide hammer arrangement, similar to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zrKvZyhnlw

If you make one, please make me one too, I don't have a welder.

Ken

Michael G
28th July 2015, 10:25 PM
If you guys want dangerous, perhaps you should try this one -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEfbvZJYEio

Michael

Pete F
28th July 2015, 11:22 PM
If you guys want dangerous, perhaps you should try this one -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEfbvZJYEio

Michael

It's ok, he's wearing his safety hoodie!

KBs PensNmore
29th July 2015, 12:18 AM
David, what you propose is too dangerous. Once the screw bites into the log, it will have a tendency to spin.

Something far simpler to build is a slide hammer arrangement, similar to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zrKvZyhnlw

If you make one, please make me one too, I don't have a welder.

Ken

Probably easier to buy a bead breaker for tyres, grind the hook off and shape it to a point. A lot less work than making one.
Kryn

jhovel
29th July 2015, 03:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t_jzmntMwI
This looks a bit more to my liking of safety. You used to be able to buy the taper thingi to fit on tractor PTOs too.

GSRocket
29th July 2015, 06:52 PM
I'm not one to care too much about safety but that is way beyond the pale.
Tho' I'd be interested to know how well it works in blackbut and iron bark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmpwKadFS9g

GSRocket
29th July 2015, 06:56 PM
David, what you propose is too dangerous. Once the screw bites into to your hand it'll travel all the
way up your arm.
Ken
A likely outcome sooner or later.

Oldneweng
29th July 2015, 07:17 PM
It's ok, he's wearing his safety hoodie!

Not to mention his safety gloves. They should protect him.:2tsup:

I've seen this video before too. Must be winter time or something.:rolleyes:

Dean

.RC.
29th July 2015, 07:50 PM
I always thought I was lax on safety.. Apparently I am a safety Nazi compared to some on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g62Ge93k_PU

Stustoys
29th July 2015, 08:46 PM
I always thought I was lax on safety.. Apparently I am a safety Nazi compared to some on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g62Ge93k_PU


Pfft only one saw??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxS7hhoJqXw

This looks safer than most and it would be a little tricky with a log splitter ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eppmxC41fLU

.RC.
29th July 2015, 10:00 PM
Some of these machines look like medieval torture devices...

Also amazing how soft that timber is... I am only used to stuff like iron bark and gum, and splitting timber was what an axe was for...

RayG
29th July 2015, 10:13 PM
I'd like to see those machines handle some curly grained grey box. The manual block splitter just bounces off most of the time. :)

PDW
30th July 2015, 12:21 AM
I'd like to see those machines handle some curly grained grey box. The manual block splitter just bounces off most of the time. :)

Know what you mean - I have some white peppermint that's like that.

Some years ago I saw a youtube video where the splitter was a flywheel about 6' diameter with axe heads welded to it. You pushed the round into the cut zone and it got split, all right.

Mind the fingers, though. Made me cringe to watch it, and I've been known to build some pretty unsafe devices - a 36" dia circular saw comes to mind, scaled down version of one of the old Foley-Belsaw types.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7eM7FNAzRs

PDW

eskimo
1st August 2015, 12:09 PM
only a mater of time till some of those loose a finger or two...a limb and or life
some of those were bloody scary