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DaveTTC
30th November 2015, 07:51 PM
As luck would have my woodturning 'skills' (ok lets be honest, the fact that I own lathe .... or two, and various tools to go with) got out into the business world.
Cant say it will mke me rich but it will cover the power bill and. Ost of materials lol.
Anyway enough dribble! The commission - turn a jewelery peg. The specs as below.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/30/9331d40bddb7b5961767f9200a56e2a2.jpg
For those of you who need reminding ... this is a family forum ;)
At my club we turned a prototype Friday night. Not quite to spec but close
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/30/fadb139474060f1ea3e5be92e1bf884b.jpg
That was out of Murray pine. Client wants blonde. Phew they settled on murray pine. I have a heap. Damn its all split.
Ok so i know where there is a lump of mystery pine. I think they said hoop. So long as it does not look like radiata
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/30/9602ef7055ec0793f570c817c19d1130.jpg
Ita a big chunk at 320 square and 600 long. And my wife has my good saws from bushmiller. This just aint gonna cut it.
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
Uncle Al
30th November 2015, 08:10 PM
Looks like you could do with a bench there Dave. Turning looks nice and crisp.
Alan...
DaveTTC
30th November 2015, 08:12 PM
Oh did I mention they want 30. Identical. To be placed 150 mm apart in rows. Now its gettig scary. Gotta get that knob right.
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
DaveTTC
30th November 2015, 08:16 PM
Ok should update on the cut. It was hard work. Real hard. Decided to widen the kurf. W ok nt fir on the band saw and table saw .... well you can see that in an earlier pic and to make things worse im running a 9 1/4 blade in a 10" saw. Must say blades are much cheaper.
So makita to the rescue
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/30/311b67c5a39603fdccd87fd415c57c23.jpg
But who will rescue the Makita
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/30/10ed50ced248239e3bc600e141006a29.jpg
Well at 18v and a spare battery we got there
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/30/ec98e46ef398d759ce2039fceeddef4e.jpg
Dave TTC
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Pat
30th November 2015, 08:20 PM
Dave, use the saw all 4 sides and the split it with a wedge and maul.
Pittwater Pete
30th November 2015, 08:30 PM
Oh did I mention they want 30. Identical. To be placed 150 mm apart in rows. Now its gettig scary. Gotta get that knob right.
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
Gee whizz, some client are fussy.
Pete.
Pittwater Pete
30th November 2015, 08:35 PM
That's a mother block of Hoop Pine.
DaveTTC
30th November 2015, 09:04 PM
So I got to prototype mark ii and hell it dont look blonde to me. Scuse poor lighting but this looks golden or honey and it'll only get worse
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/30/8c78480df4ff4807f32bc2719cfaa925.jpg
In fact it looks like radiata pine. Bit then again it could be pinus radiata
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/30/b22c8005c15dc05a092594785d006563.jpg
For the sake of future commissions bak to tje drawing board
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
DaveTTC
30th November 2015, 09:12 PM
Well i had a s ratch around in some timber I got here on consignment. Man I love those 'c' words. There's a four letter one that is even better
Cash.
So in the stash I knew there was a 'c' of species that would pass as blonde. CTP celery tope pine. But i think it wad only inch boards
Bum bum bum buuuuuummmmm Ubeaut, a bit of 4 x 2.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/30/3d1aab855da2ac449f393940473f23b4.jpg
Now to cut it. Wooo whooo. Dont tell the client. Got two bits of venner (except for the bit thatgot caught in the balde and another off cut 10mm thick. Will come in handy if i never use i
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/30/f9e5a57d81093cdb55104e115286d6c4.jpg
Ok off to prototype mark iii. Oh mark ii was too thin behind the knob sono good as a keeper anyway.
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
KBs PensNmore
30th November 2015, 10:02 PM
Sounds like some real fun Dave. When you do a run of items, do you use a template to follow? I usually make one out of 3mm ply or MDF and hold it against what I'm turning .
Kryn
DaveTTC
30th November 2015, 10:33 PM
Was thinking of a template for the knob. The shaft is easy
Dave TTC
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crowie
1st December 2015, 07:01 PM
Dave, I'm looking forward to seeing your masterpiece....cheers, crowie
DaveTTC
1st December 2015, 10:51 PM
Working on it. No work tomorrow so hope to get it all finished ;)
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
Evanism
2nd December 2015, 12:06 AM
Dave, you're making me sweat looking at all that effort just to cut the blanks!
Perhaps you need to invest in a bench and get the tools off the floor :)
Get to show you how to make these. He helped me when you came up last. I make dozens in a day when the coat racks and peg boards get ordered for the stores. A template with pins and a negative are real timesavers.
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My method is probably very wrong, but its fast :) Turn them between centres to rough out the stalk and head, then mount it into a contraption pictured, finish off and apply plenty of the 80 and 120 grit chisels ;) The negative is used to ensure its spot on. Not pictured is my Iron Maiden. Its just a bit of ply with nails inserted at the various cutoff points and curve tops/bottoms. The nails are clipped to points with side cutters and this is simply jammed against the prepared spindle while its rotating. The 5 nails make all the markings needed in half a second and ensures all spindles are the same.
I found using a skewchigouge is ideal.
Good luck dude!
DaveTTC
2nd December 2015, 08:53 AM
Im at it today Evan, all the blanks are cut. Did think of doing a negative but wasnt sure if it would be worth the time for a small run.
Maybe I should do it anyway ad ive done a couple and now I can compare the two ways.
The timber is not as gòd to work as some
Update later
Dave TTC
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Dalboy
2nd December 2015, 10:02 AM
Looking good you should have them finished by the days end:laughing1:
The story boards are great for this type of thing and I like the Idea with the one with the nails to mark all the points at once:2tsup:
Evanism
2nd December 2015, 12:14 PM
This is the Iron Maiden. Its just the clipped nails. Each represents important (but entirely arbitrary) points where there are high/lows begins/end on the pegs.
One is made for each type of peg...
Dave I do a negative for each peg type too. I'm hopeless and very slow at turning, so taking 10 minutes to make a negative saves me 10x that at production time. I just print it out, stick it to a 3mm MDF and cut it out with a little coping saw. Its very easy to compare all the angles/slopes/curves this way.
The spanners and the bit of MDF with holes drilled in it (photo 3 above) are so I can get the diameters of each point right as well. Each spanner is 1mm bigger than the final size. This gives me room to make a final smooth cut (ahem, SAND it down to size :B )
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BTW, none of this is my invention. showed me how to do all of this. He could see how seriously inept I was and needed serious help :cool:
I hope this helps. It's good to pass on tips. :)
DaveTTC
2nd December 2015, 01:28 PM
Evan
came and did a demo at my place sometime ago on production turning. He neve did the MDF thing. I feel ripped off lol. I like that idea.
Your posts prompted me to get the shed sorted a bit for which i thank you. Also to follow through on the negative, that is something he dod not show us either. I was just using the calipers though did show us a marking rod. Don't think there were nails in that one but he did use nails for and bead and cove template.
I could not get anywhere with ease in my shed this morning. Now behold
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/01/a894059e73927c04f83fe03440add856.jpg
Bandsaw can be used and drill press too
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/01/4248f0c43677a11878ad74ec43febd26.jpg
Got the saw off the floor
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/01/92fcfed4e2745965dda6818cf89758b8.jpg
And for when im tuening chisels and grinder moves in closer
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/01/a976798c03e1bd1fd702b64a6ee834ea.jpg
Yet to set up something better with the table saw and router table but that is a job for anothe day.
Thx for the motivation and reminders
Dave TTC
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wheelinround
2nd December 2015, 02:02 PM
Dave on the job well done they look cool a pic with them all set up would be good.
Now when did that shed build happen and the Laguna slip through the door???
DaveTTC
2nd December 2015, 05:41 PM
Shed since we moved and the laguna was partial thx to ex boss. We had an arrangement whih sonce the company colapsed i had to make a decision whether to keep the lathe or let go
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
Uncle Al
2nd December 2015, 05:58 PM
Great to see your shed set up and ready for use. The Laguna must be a pleasure to use. Have fun with the turning.
Alan...
Pittwater Pete
2nd December 2015, 07:45 PM
Hey Dave. Your shed looks good!
Pete.
Pat
2nd December 2015, 08:43 PM
Dave, any more than 1 item a storyboard/negative is a blessing. I used one last Saturday, to copy a finial, that was still attached to the table.
Christos
2nd December 2015, 09:08 PM
Just caught up on this thread, good to see you producing a few for a client. :2tsup:
Shed looks cool so much space.
DaveTTC
3rd December 2015, 12:29 AM
Whoops it was getting late. Midnight already. And ihad a whoops moment on the lathe
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/02/9cd9d1845818440fa8e1bc55d29dceba.jpg
But more success than whoops
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/02/12d50855f1016c49660a9acd8c270903.jpg
More in the morning
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
rwbuild
3rd December 2015, 01:07 AM
Lucky it was a whoops in timber and not in your flesh, take care.
Dalboy
3rd December 2015, 02:01 AM
I think we all have whoops moments at some time. Now the shed is tidy you know you will never find anything again:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:. Great looking workshop
Pittwater Pete
3rd December 2015, 05:50 AM
Looking really good Dave. Be careful.
Pete.
DaveTTC
3rd December 2015, 12:27 PM
Making steady progress. 1/2 way
So taking a breather for lunchand thiught I'd show the process. Took a little from evanism & and added a little of my own.
Made a wooden jam chuck thatscrewd straight on the spindle nd then put it on reversed live centre (what ever you call that thing, has spindle thread so you can mount your chuck on the tailstock)
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/02/54680691e0000a04917829b5f2a38fc5.jpg
Using the flat end I press it up against my blank held in the four jaw chucks. It is turned to the major diameter so no need to use calipers or spanner etc. Turn one end down amd site the other to the bed
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/02/65e743c3f159869454c0058ff2e9d458.jpg
Then just draw a straight line with whatever chisel you fancy from end to end.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/02/b0bd64388b234b7e3f6477925330a9cc.jpg
Using the nail guage thingy. Cant remember what Evan alled it ... Iron Maiden?
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/02/caabe92101bced9b5f33131ace7a5152.jpg
Then mark a little deeper those points and round the end. Now at this point you'll notice the jamb chuck has a hollow. I also use a router bit as my negative for the dome. Cant use it as a scraper as thebtimber woukd tear and likely come flying out the jaws
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/02/5329216adee89ad04d9b3e641a2dffc7.jpg
Now with the tool rest set at the angle of the taper I finish shaping using a spaner as a gauge on final diameters and one set of calipers on the large end of the taper
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/02/c931248bbc9e7da7a429d28a529a448d.jpg
Then sand thru to 400
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/02/b6cd4cf472eca3e3f083a5c4ad2325c6.jpg
All in all about 30 minutes each. I think a timber that didn't tear so easy I could likely get it down to 20 minutes of turning and sanding to get the desired finish for this job
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
wheelinround
3rd December 2015, 01:19 PM
Shed since we moved and the laguna was partial thx to ex boss. We had an arrangement whih sonce the company colapsed i had to make a decision whether to keep the lathe or let go
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
Sorry Dave wasn't aware of the move not reading all or much of the forum these days.
Pittwater Pete
3rd December 2015, 05:09 PM
Sweet Dave. As you know, I know nothing about turning so it's great to watch.
Pete.
DaveTTC
3rd December 2015, 05:30 PM
Sweet Dave. As you know, I know nothing about turning so it's great to watch.
Pete.
Glad your enjoying. Down to the last 7. Had a few interruptions today
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
DaveTTC
3rd December 2015, 05:36 PM
Oh a pic for you. And eyes off my orange 'spindle molder' i know yours is not as good as mine so I can out you in touch with a supplier if you need one ;) My power feed is not attahed to the spinle molder atm. It had been stuck behind the lathe.
Oh yeah the pic
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/02/4cfbe7ed9c28feea69216f5228853356.jpg
Proof of life. Sorry dod not have todays paper to hold up with them. They almost look the same too.
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
Pittwater Pete
3rd December 2015, 06:20 PM
Thats great Dave, might need 100 more though:C.......... Just kidding.
Don't work till midnight or Cath will beat me with a big (nicely turned) stick when I get there for your GTG on Jan 26.
Thanks Mate much appreciated.
Pete.
DaveTTC
3rd December 2015, 07:03 PM
Just because I could
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/02/6aab266c661e044ab8e647e055cb2b94.jpg
Wheel anyone?
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/02/76a7e78c037d3fcf0291503ac1ae373e.jpg
Did someone order a spiral top?
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/02/8be9bf56de7f153105f94716a5894748.jpg
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
Pittwater Pete
3rd December 2015, 07:34 PM
Stop having fun and get back to work!
DaveTTC
3rd December 2015, 11:47 PM
Almost the witching hour. Time for me to pull the pin. I think they are all done.
Perfecting them as I go I may want to touch up a couple of the first ones with some fine sanding.
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
DaveTTC
4th December 2015, 12:41 AM
All done and pass QC.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/03/05278f16b59dd133f2824256ffa0d8b7.jpg
Can I have a shower and go to bed now
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
Pittwater Pete
4th December 2015, 06:28 AM
You Champion. Good job, thanks a million.
Pete
Simplicity
4th December 2015, 06:33 AM
Nice work there Dave
You might be in business before you know it
Christos
4th December 2015, 07:26 AM
Thank you for the work in progress. That's a job well done.
DaveTTC
4th December 2015, 09:03 AM
Now to package them so they dont get damaged in the mail
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
DaveTTC
4th December 2015, 03:43 PM
Elvis has left the building
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/03/57adfa1d8bf1b753f29ae6c667bd8f97.jpg
Fostner bit on top to suit tenon. Nice snug fit so just a small smear of glue shoukd be ample.
Hope the package is opened on carpet. Hate to aee those thigs land on a hard floor. I assumed theae were to be supolied unfinished. Hope i was right lol
Thanks to all the followers and support. Particulay thx evanism for your comprehensive posts with description and pictures.
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
Christos
7th December 2015, 12:05 PM
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Thanks to all the followers and support. Particulay thx evanism for your comprehensive posts with description and pictures......
I agree, well done Evanism.
Hundreds of kilometers apart and able to assist. :2tsup:
Evanism
7th December 2015, 12:12 PM
DaveTTC did help me before. He's been here on two occasions and we've had a lesson together :)
I only just happened to know this through massive trial and error. It is not by any means the best - simply a way I've devised.
No doubt, i've overthought it enormously :)
Looking at Daves work, it looks better than mine :)
DaveTTC
7th December 2015, 12:17 PM
Not so sure about better lol. Yours looked impressive to me.
Retrospectively I should have made an MDF spanner as I had to adjust the callipers a few times.
Today I'm hell bent on getting my shed organised as today's paid work fell through
May not be a floor in the house to walk on but at least I'll have a shed to work in
Dave
The Turning Cowboy
Evanism
7th December 2015, 12:43 PM
Good photography and clever photoshopping :U
Keep tidy always. It makes one efficient, but those bloody lathes sure know how to make a mess :p
DaveTTC
17th December 2015, 01:21 PM
You may recall while having fun i had a little 'slip'
Instant recall below
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/16/92d25e969e125c2b11208b0609ccac55.jpg
I decided this could be a design opportunity so .....
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/16/33d30ca69e05794701247b49308510a7.jpg
I cleaned it up and sanded it
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/16/0286d0240fd34a89f47eec1667540d04.jpg
Good thing I dont have to duplicate that 30 times lol
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
Pittwater Pete
17th December 2015, 06:46 PM
It is now being used as a honey dipper.
DaveTTC
17th December 2015, 07:27 PM
It is now being used as a honey dipper.
I like the taste of that
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
crowie
17th December 2015, 08:04 PM
I like the taste of that
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into ArtO
Oh My Goodness Me, Dave....:doh:
Evanism
17th December 2015, 08:32 PM
Save, I saw the tool rest in the last photo. Is that a custom, or standard?
I've been meaning to get a tough stubby tool rest. The picture one looks nice and beefy.
DaveTTC
17th December 2015, 08:34 PM
I knocked that off from my club. Think they had it made. Sadly the club is closed to Feb. Guess I'll just have to keep using it.
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
Big Shed
17th December 2015, 08:47 PM
Save, I saw the tool rest in the last photo. Is that a custom, or standard?
I've been meaning to get a tough stubby tool rest. The picture one looks nice and beefy.
I had a similar one made for me by Acco, don't know whether he still does that but worth sending him a PM.
DaveTTC
18th December 2015, 07:39 AM
Here are the pegs in situ
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/17/115bbe8c34a0fb95036bf61573712a42.jpg
A slightly different angle
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/17/c5246e6737e4bcc8d51e1529e068c49a.jpg
Reports are client is happy
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
Simplicity
18th December 2015, 09:12 PM
Is it in correct to say nice pegging there Dave