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camoz
17th January 2016, 05:56 PM
Hi all,

I'm not sure if it's just me who does this (so excuse my strangeness if it is), but if I am going somewhere I wouldn't normally go (and taking the ute), I will do a bit of a search first (for sale sites), to perhaps stop in and break up the trip.

Doing a radius search last night (had a trip today), I found for sale "Home & Garden" in the "Home & Garden" category. It was a drill press (pretty sure no one was going to find this searching for drill press http://d1r5wj36adg1sk.cloudfront.net/images/smilies/standard/rolleyes.gif), but what caught my eye was it had a keyless chuck (this is something I can use). I arranged to meet him, but in the end, the only certainty was the chuck, there was too many unknowns (the guy did not have 3 phase power to test the machine). If I was going to buy it, I wanted to take the keyless chuck and then flip the drill press again without doing any restorations. I was going to walk away, but in the end, he really just wanted it gone, so we made a deal. I think if I didn't take it, it was going to get scrapped.

Here are a few pictures (really bad pictures, I will get some more soon).

http://i1365.photobucket.com/albums/r754/woodworkforum/photo%202_zpsbscbkz8p.jpg (http://s1365.photobucket.com/user/woodworkforum/media/photo%202_zpsbscbkz8p.jpg.html)

http://i1365.photobucket.com/albums/r754/woodworkforum/photo%201_zpscjnwyxyr.jpg (http://s1365.photobucket.com/user/woodworkforum/media/photo%201_zpscjnwyxyr.jpg.html)

http://i1365.photobucket.com/albums/r754/woodworkforum/photo%203_zpsqtcayhtf.jpg (http://s1365.photobucket.com/user/woodworkforum/media/photo%203_zpsqtcayhtf.jpg.html)

It is a Progress No.2G, not a drill press I am familiar with, and it looks to have a gear lever for 2 speeds giving a range from 47RPM to 2480RPM.

It's English made, and seems to be well built, not sure if the 2 speed gearbox is going to be a good thing or it's Achilles heal.

Has anyone used one of these, seen one, have an opinion on the brand, or any history of the company. The lowest drill speed I have at the moment is 150RPM, so if it's a quality drill press, and a viable restore, I will keep it and put the effort into restoring it.

Like I said, at this stage I have no idea on condition, but a promising sign is the fact that the table does not seem to have any drill holes in it.

Cheers,

Camo

hiroller
17th January 2016, 06:15 PM
Made by Elliot.
They seem to be desirable for restoration in the UK.
You can purchase manuals online:
https://store.lathes.co.uk/print/mp700c
Elliott Progress drilling machines manual models 1, 2 & 3 & 5 - Machine Manuals (http://www.machinemanuals.co.uk/manual.php?p=38)

But Anorak Bob had a copy of the manual for your model a couple of years ago:
http://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/elliot-progress-3e-geared-head-drill-165529

camoz
19th January 2016, 11:23 AM
Made by Elliot.
They seem to be desirable for restoration in the UK.
You can purchase manuals online:
https://store.lathes.co.uk/print/mp700c
Elliott Progress drilling machines manual models 1, 2 & 3 & 5 - Machine Manuals (http://www.machinemanuals.co.uk/manual.php?p=38)

But Anorak Bob had a copy of the manual for your model a couple of years ago:
http://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/elliot-progress-3e-geared-head-drill-165529

Thanks for the info:2tsup:. I haven't had a chance to even look the drill press over yet, but did a bit of reading yesterday on a restoration post Progress 2G Drill | MIG Welding Forum (http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/progress-2g-drill.31600/) the guy was fairly thorough (no finally comments though, so no idea of his thoughts of using it) and as I suspected the gearbox is the Achilles heel of this machine. This is mainly an issue if someone changes gears while it's running, so I will have a look inside to see if that's an issue on this one.

It did explain why the thing was so heavy, I just physically checked, and the post is solid, and this one is a pedestal version, so that's one big chunk of steel:oo:.

In this post bench drill - Woodwork UK (http://www.woodworkuk.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=960) Phill / Scrit seems to think they are a good drill press, and his opinion carries a lot of weight with me.

cheers,

Camo

L.S.Barker1970
20th January 2016, 08:41 AM
How many drill presses is that now Cam ?
Might have to get you to keep an eye out for me !
I love the little horse on the speed change decal, I'm assuming it stands for 3/4 HP ?!

Melbourne Matty.

L.S.Barker1970
22nd January 2016, 03:43 PM
Cam, I just picked up this the other day, cost us a slab of beer.
I hope it works, Im more familiar with the old Waldown drill press, not these geared headed ones !
Any one ever heard of this brand or had experience with one of these ?

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae301/matty355/matty355199/IMG_20160120_162339_553_zps1j6o8q5t.jpg
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae301/matty355/matty355199/IMG_20160120_162348_867_zpsjehinxwg.jpg
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae301/matty355/matty355199/IMG_20160120_162325_717_zpsk8holepo.jpg
Melbourne Matty.

hiroller
22nd January 2016, 04:25 PM
Nider drills are still made today:
Agency Nider - Machinery Scandinavia (http://www.mscab.se/en/products/agency-nider/)

The factory no longer stock parts for your model:
Manual machine and accessories parts lists
(http://hhrobertsmachinery.com/Support/Manual-machine-Parts-Lists/manual-machine-parts-lists.html#nider)
This guy has a manual:
Charles Edmonds, Melbourne Australia (http://charlesedmondsmelbourneaustralia.blogspot.com.au/)

L.S.Barker1970
22nd January 2016, 05:34 PM
Nider drills are still made today:
Agency Nider - Machinery Scandinavia (http://www.mscab.se/en/products/agency-nider/)

The factory no longer stock parts for your model:
Manual machine and accessories parts lists
(http://hhrobertsmachinery.com/Support/Manual-machine-Parts-Lists/manual-machine-parts-lists.html#nider)
This guy has a manual:
Charles Edmonds, Melbourne Australia (http://charlesedmondsmelbourneaustralia.blogspot.com.au/)

Thanks for that, I'd better be careful not to break anything then !

Melbourne Matty.

Chris Parks
22nd January 2016, 06:18 PM
I have had a gear head drill for about 30 years and never broken anything and have been offered serious money for it. Gear head drills are sought after by those who know what is what.

L.S.Barker1970
24th January 2016, 08:32 PM
I have had a gear head drill for about 30 years and never broken anything and have been offered serious money for it. Gear head drills are sought after by those who know what is what.

Thanks Chris, that's sound advice !
I'm pretty sure all the gearing is in good condition
Just fingers crossed for the motor to run, I'll test it this week for sure !

Melbourne Matty.