Timber id. help please

[torech]

Hi
am interested in what timber I have scored from a development site.
got a few different species but two (2 different species) showed distinct medulary rays in the end grain. Weren't very big (for slabbing) but because of the rays i grabbed them. Didn't see the trees with the heads but looking around there were some pine needles. similar to athel but not same colour. not salty. and a gravilea seed pod so I thought silky oak maybe. The ones I have milled so far I thought gravillea which I haven't struck before (I'm in central victoria). But it was a very pale colour. slight Pink or red around any faults and knots. Red to black reaction from saw cut after 2 months. Distinct red heart, like a spalting or like a Sassafaris has but red.

Any help would be appreciated. glad i got these they look unreal.
Thanks

[MAPLEMAN]

I'll take a guess and say its Alphitonia (Red Ash) only on account of its bark and wood color...MM:2tsup:

[torech]

Thanks mapleman.
had a look at what i could find online. To your knowledge does this one have medulary rays?

[dai sensei]

Bark doesn't look chunky enough to me for Red Ash. Red Ash doesn't have medullary rays nor grows in Vic to my knowledge.

I don't know what it is, but given it has medullary rays, perhaps one of the many sheoaks/casuarinas :?

[shedbound]

yes definitely one of the sheoaks I posted a thread on one of these same trees that I milled a couple of years ago. nice timber i'm lucky enough to have some with birdseye, If I remember i'll get some pictures tomorrow.

[torech]

Thanks shed bound.
Maybe. Though not like any from around here. The wood is white (almost), except for this red centre. which is like spalting. The grain is just like a sheoak though. If its any help, the wood is in my solar kiln and any fault is blowing apart and major checking in the centre. Probably like a sheoak too. There were some pine needles (or what looked like pine needles) in the pile I picked the logs out from. So maybe.
Photos would be good shedbound.

[torech]

oh yeah
how do i find the thread you posted

[torech]

thanks dai sensei
been reading these back to front. just saw yours.

[shedbound]

I didn't recover much of the red heart most split, it also suffered a lot of cell collapse, but once dry and machined rather a nice timber, I will get some pictures later today,
http://www.woodworkforums.com/f132/scored-sheoak-170088 this is the thread I started

[torech]

Thanks for the pics shedbound. I'm gonna be a pain and say no its not sheoak. Yours looks like the sheoak I know and what I have isn't. Nice by the way-always one of my favorites. Thanks for trying though. I will get some more pics posted. better ones of the bark maybe.
The red in this log is more of a fault or a reaction than the timber's natural colour. And its very central. So the sap wood and the heartwood are white. The juvenille wood is distinctly red but coulour encroaches a little into the heartwood. Looks unreal.
I don't know grevilias but could one of these guys have a red spalting?
Appreciate the input. I know its hard without leaves and better photos. I'm determined to find out cause I want more of it.

[dai sensei]

Agreed not Shedbound's sheoak, but keep in mind there are heaps of different species of Sheoaks/Casuarinas.

[Euge]

I dont think its an Red Ash, which is a tropical species, not or rarely seen it in Vic.
Apart from the sheaoks suugested (some which produce a red heartwood on oxidation and expsoure to light) my best guess is that it could be a HAKEA species. These often have bold rays. The phenolics in wet sapwood of Grevilleas and Hakeas often produce a black or dark reaction to iron salts (ferric choride) or after contact with iron. Just another option. Hard to tell from these pictures .. close ups of planed surfaces, endgrain and quarter surface, would help.

Euge

[Euge]

Oh forgot to mention.... the grey bark shown is very consistent with popular Hakeas (ornamentals & street trees) and also when you said "There were some pine needles (or what looked like pine needles) in the pile I picked the logs out from. So maybe." .... some of these Hakeas also have pine-like (shorter needles) foliage

Euge