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Roybrew
6th June 2016, 04:33 PM
I started a making a cabinet for my living room a couple of months ago. I had some "old", maybe from the 1940's, saw mill lumber. Most of it after planning down, ended up being about 1 inch thick by 10 to 12 inches wide. It is more redish brown then red oak, but not as dark as black walnut, which I have some of each that was cut about same time. Anyhow I didn't know for sure what it was till I ran out early in my cabinet making project.

I went to a local saw mill in search of this mystery wood, and the feller there said it was the heart wood of cherry. Now of course he had some kiln dried cherry that he was selling, and the darker parts of it seemed to come pretty close, and for a dollar per board foot I guess wasn't to bad.

After sorting, planning, and sawing I have plenty enough to finish. Here is one of the side panels which shows the different colors of the woods. This is bare wood with no stains or oils. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160606/33abf5fb5ff9d1df8a5dbeea8a0d5417.jpg.

I'll add to this as I bumble on through this project. I had no idea it was going to be like working a jigsaw puzzle. I always welcome advice and imput.

(Camp_aholic) Uncontrollable shaking when not camping.

crowie
6th June 2016, 06:16 PM
That's a very pretty piece of timber Roy....Cheers, crowie

Tahlee
7th June 2016, 12:11 AM
Hi Roybrew
Great grain on the rails and stiles, that will really shine when polished up.

Keep the pics coming as you progress please

Rob

Roybrew
7th June 2016, 03:58 PM
Thanks y'all. I have done some book cases and a few cabinets, but mostly out of sheet goods. I have made about 4 book case cabinets with glass doors on the front. I used plywood because my wife wanted them 14 inches deep, and it seemed more economical.? I cut some 1X2 red oak down to 1/4 by 3/4 strips that I used for vaneer edging to hide the plywood edges. Here is my grandson helping me put the edge on. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160607/afbde5d710c3bc1f7187ad2bde06736e.jpg.

I find wood working to be "Frustratingly Enjoyable".

Roybrew
29th June 2016, 03:30 PM
Well after some extensive overtime (corporate greed, when is it enough?), wife projects, and the usual auto repair along with some fishing with my Dad, I am back at it. I have been fitting pieces making sure my measurements are according to my print...uunn, well it's close.

I have finally got some cherry stain for the saw mill lumber. My wife wanted it to match the old auction lumber her pappaw purchased back in the 50"s. 386197. My wife still wonders if the lumber her pappaw bought might be Mahogany? The only piece in this picture that is stained is the block of cherry with the blue masking tape on it all the rest is freshly planed with no stains or oil.

I setup my old "inexpence" router table, and practiced on some scrap pine. I wanted to cut a decent angle/half moon shape on the top edge of my kick plates or base molding??? A few burn marks later 386198 and one of my side pieces that the router slung into a block wall, and destroyed my 45degree edge 386199. So I remade that piece, and this time I setup my combination 1970's radial arm, miter saw and router thing, that almost removed my finger last week. Yes as soon as that saw kicked and bound on a 2 by 4 and my finger. By the time I killed the power, grabbed a rag to bind my finger up, and got to the top of the stairs my wife was already waiting on me with my truck keys in her hand. Of course she wasn't going to have me bleeding in her nice car on way to hospital.

386206 So after a half hour of removing blade from left side, rotating and raising head I took one look at thing and thought to my self, I am not sticking my hand any where near the business end of that thing! The original manual said it could be used as a router table setup,,,, Hu no way. 386207.

The solid top is already made, and my wife wanted it left upstairs because of something like I might damage it in my organized shop? 386208

Tahlee
29th June 2016, 06:47 PM
Hi RoyB
Sounds like a close call ... hope the digits are healing well ... no blood on the carpets is a good for enduring relations

That is one mean looking machine ... I'm trying to imagine it as a router.

Two painful things I have learned in routing are ....save the last pass to be the finishing pass .. I mean I now leave about half a mm for the final cut and when I do it i do it a a fast rate ... no stops ... no burns ... looks like you may have stalled the pass at some stage.

The other thing is to leave the router set up as it was until I have finished the joinery ... can always go back and redo to the same setting

Looks like you do the routing after the cutting to length. I always route first, cut the longest side and them move to the short sides.

BTW where is Rogersville

Regards

Rob

Roybrew
29th June 2016, 07:52 PM
Hey Tahlee, Rogersville Tn in the USA. We are in the north east corner of the state.

Thanks for advice with router work. I have a lot to learn about wood working. I Apprenticed in metal working here at my place of employment about 13 years ago. It's a German company and mostly German management then. Most of the Germans have retired and left this plant in the hands of Americans, and the corporate greed is staggering. I miss working under the Germans they were more family oriented. I learned how to metal work with hand tools my first 9 months of apprenticeship, and then started on machines and cnc programming. I wish I could've learned wood working instead. Seems like it is becoming a lost art in this part of the country.

My wife has a couple pieces of nice furniture that has been in her family since the middle 1800's. The press board junk around now days won't last. I would like to make some nice pieces that may also be appreciated in a hundred years or so and maybe by great grand children.

I see you in southern Australia. I would guess winter there. Summer here now, hot and humid here in the Appalachian mtns.

Better get back to work. Thank you all, and I'll post my progress.

Roy

Christos
30th June 2016, 09:37 AM
I hope that your incident was not too severe and that your recovery is speedy.

Roybrew
30th June 2016, 10:50 AM
I hope that your incident was not too severe and that your recovery is speedy.
Eh wasn't to awful I still have my all my digits. Little cat gut and bandaids. I always watch where my hands are, but this time I didn't expect it to kick like it did. Thanks for concern.

Battle scar bragging rights.

Roybrew
5th July 2016, 10:20 AM
Well, while most people around here are consuming huge amounts of alcohol and playing with explosive devices (fire works cause it's independence day). I decided to stay at home and work on my cabinet. I stained the cherry panels, and it doesn't exactly match the stiles or rails I have. Here is the stained and unstained panels with one of the rails. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160704/05f8afb5a49d318c2e32e69153d70ba3.jpg I prefer the unstained because I like the contrast, but my wife wanted them to match as close as possible.

I was curious which kind of sanding is prefered or give better results. Block sanding or orbital sanding?? I block sanded the panels, and finished with 400 grit sand paper. I didn't know if orbital sander would leave scratches. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160704/96ff0c87c8bbe894685a55db6df186fb.jpg.

I work on it when I can. I figure I have another 15 years till I can retire, so maybe I'll have it finished by then.

Roybrew
19th August 2016, 11:20 AM
Lots of overtime with my real job, so I haven't had much time to work on project. Got the panels stained and assembled. The rails and middle stile is bare unstained wood. The top stile and the panel inset have been stained, so matches pretty good. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160818/a210002c5473b5b11a7bf774be74bec9.jpg

The cabinet bottom worked out great. I used a cabinet scraper for the first time, and it worked it down fast and flat.

I was a little upset with my lack of oversight about how the inside of the panels look. I never thought about. So I started planing down some cherry to use as a vaneer on the inside. I got it to about 8mm thick. The face will over hang the edge by about 10 mm. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160819/ad6bd6da305e8ab70e057a17806211eb.jpg http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160819/62649f19429676b6e93704ce8bfd970c.jpg.

What else am I over looking?

I have been reading most of y'alls post and learning alot.

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Bendigo Bob
19th August 2016, 12:40 PM
Just caught up with this thread Roger. Glad you are OK. I reckon no way I'd use that monster for routing. I have followed one of your countrymen a bit lately - Andrew Pitts, on Youtube. he simply uses a router screwed upside down into a table, with a makeshift fence clamped on, does some fine work too. Way out of my league :)

Looking forward to seeing that cabinet progress.

Greetings from Bendigo, Victoria, good old Oz :)

Roybrew
19th August 2016, 12:45 PM
Just caught up with this thread Roger. Glad you are OK. I reckon no way I'd use that monster for routing. I have followed one of your countrymen a bit lately - Andrew Pitts, on Youtube. he simply uses a router screwed upside down into a table, with a makeshift fence clamped on, does some fine work too. Way out of my league :)

Looking forward to seeing that cabinet progress.

Greetings from Bendigo, Victoria, good old Oz :)
Thank you. I thought about mounting the router on the extension side of my table saw, so that way I could use the unifence that came with it.

I need to get with it on this project. I have other projects that need my attention. My job is sure taking a chunk out of my time.
Roy

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Bendigo Bob
4th September 2016, 07:17 PM
Hi Marshall, and thanks for the greeting mate. Yes, they are a great bunch of guys here. Some of the advice and feedback has saved me countless hours of frustration :)

Enjoy the forums, post pics of whatever you are doing, and don't be afraid of starting a thread of your own Marshall.

Roybrew
7th October 2016, 02:47 PM
Planed some cherry down to use as vaneer on the inside of my side panels. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161007/3fc9e3659c2f3af667f1ccde18f138b8.jpg. Got my wood planed down and sized for my doors. Going to try and cut some mortice and tenons. Here are my rails marked and laid out. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161007/81f904915bae836ee86a2fec2b56ad56.jpg. I have never done this before, but a wood working book said drilling the meat out first was a good way to start. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161007/393720a1233aac6cbac8b72b266d8eb2.jpg. And then chop the rest out. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161007/01eae12bef94d1deaf83cb3e9e836094.jpg. Cutting the tenons. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161007/71c2d0cac02c0d87f3dd04b462f7d218.jpg http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161007/7e28d4384cd10fd121272f360f796534.jpg. I left a little extra length on the rails because I didn't want to split them when cutting the mortice. I trimmed excess off after assembled. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161007/441a0e44b2c72727960e2a26eed0bb25.jpg. Then it was the router work. I need a better setup for securing my work to the table. First is the offset for hinges and the way I want the door to set in the face of the cabinet.http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161007/d3fdd5f8f4b4cd237df799ecb438e2e3.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161007/e1a15bd80188833d0b7d1310228a66a3.jpg then I router where my glass is going to set http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161007/5f531350fcad30b9a41dc88343ab229d.jpg then I turn it over and router the door face that over hangs the cabinet face frame. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161007/f3884071924a95e2e40b521c7e002f07.jpg I had to do a couple of different steps to the front edge because I have limited router bits. Checked my fit http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161007/882fc60e15ddb1520c7ad3a961bec582.jpg I did a lot of sanding on the doors to get rid of burn marks, rough edges, and blending edges. I used plastic wire ties to relieve the tension of the self closing hinges so I could mount them. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161007/c9e7667fabe448b59d707af7561199be.jpg The bottom right of the left door doesn't quite fit snug, but once I put on the magnetic catches it should suck right up there. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161007/8c481dbc0554f09599ca647e5a31cfaa.jpg Maybe I have it done next week. Grandson will be over Saturday http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161007/8c64122c77b7f1fcd8437e8e281b34ec.jpg and me an ole dad need to go fishing http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161007/68ea5748483336baad54346293058975.jpg

Next post I should be done, and with pictures of finished cabinet. I hope.

Roybrew
11th October 2016, 03:48 PM
I guess I was a little overly optimistic. The shelves I made out of cherry, but I wanted glass in them so the light would shine through. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161011/3b4b945c4ffd78a3a5ab2b9dbff60469.jpg. I wanted a good fit with the glass recessed and flush in the shelves with no gaps. Well my router job sucked. I should've done better http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161011/e356e43cf69ee1c7bfb828aef4bad322.jpg I may redo the shelves. Since the glass fit pretty fush, I had to sand the sharp edges. I never done this before, and I was amazed how well it did smoothing the edges.http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161011/c94b01dd91ce62f397753ddfafe1a018.jpg. I seated the glass in the shelves and door frames with a good clear silicon rubber.http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161011/8a408829880cfbf1abb0b1abceedecb7.jpg. Once the silicon dried I cleaned off the excess and stained the frames. I cut a piece of 1/2 inch (13mm) plywood for the back, and glued and stapled it on. This is the only plywood I used on this cabinet, and I used white oak for the frame underneath. I was going to glue the mirror against the plywood in the back, but I thought I would need an extra shelf support half way if there was enough weight on the shelves to make them sag. This picture is a little hard to make out. The picture was taken looking down through the top at the back plywood. The unstained cherry is in between the two mirrors. I wanted to be able to remove the mirrors if the cabinet has to be transported, or if the mirrors ever have to be replaced. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161011/9c96f381f69d58ef0321f8a6cc499e17.jpg. Same piece glued nailed and stained with the mirrors removed http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161011/d73fd71254199689e620775d9f2973b2.jpg The mirror is about 3mm thick, so I planed the cherry to 8mm thick. I setup my router table to cut the recesses for to mirrors. That was horrible! The router chipped and tore the edge apart before I understood that I had to climb cut and then finish with the proper direction.http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161011/898836816a7687218db7c53ec8eb8d5c.jpg I cleaned the edge up with a hand plane and shooting board http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161011/013b5e71a5f17ff8f76bda34c713fcbc.jpg. Then I went to work on the top. Routing an edge on 3 sides.http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161011/4a0b2f854976a94e9b9e153bc53176cc.jpg http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161011/b0d4196fc270938660821894ce1a9707.jpg. I took it into the house. It is not finished yet. I need to work on and install the shelves and the LED lights. It has not been oiled either. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161011/5b18a249aeeb6da93d18fcf6041e6e85.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161011/8afc2bd29b676de2983f61a7d3b67ada.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161011/bbd0cbe36abbb7a979831d43ec376cc4.jpg. What kind of oil should I use?

crowie
11th October 2016, 05:58 PM
The end result looks good even without oiling...well done sir...

Roybrew
13th October 2016, 02:04 PM
Thank you. I have learned alot from this project, and many thanks to you all. I didn't know what a shooting board was or anything about it till I read some of y'alls posts, and it realy saved me alot of headache and work. Final picturehttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161013/8e5a65e5d171150789b0f81c5d179f31.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161013/abca2b46b1ef69af60025bdb7bd0e486.jpg

Bendigo Bob
13th October 2016, 02:29 PM
Well Roybrew, thumbs up all round. Great result and lots learned along the way, can't complain about that :)