Joinery 'systems' get together (JSGT)

[fletty]

Hi folks, at last year's Sharpening GT, an idea was floated to hold another GT but on joinery systems and there seems to be enough interest to go ahead.
So, here is the idea..
Joinery systems get together
fletty's shed
Camden, NSW
10am, Sunday, 18th June, 2017


Systems to be demonstrated and tried, already include;



Leigh dovetail (D4)
Gifkin dovetail
Domino
Hegner finger jointer
lock mitre (using Infinity set up gauges)
Trend mortise and tenon

In addition, the following have been offered, but to be confirmed

Incra positioner

and, I'm hoping for offers of;

Incra iBox?
Kreg Foreman (?)


Mid June will be cold in Camden but an open, outdoor fire is planned and there are heaters in the shed. There will be the usual freebie sausage sandwiches available and BBQ space if you want to cook something yourself.
Depending on weather, there is off-street parking and/or camping/ caravan, power is available.
Please advise if you are interested in attending even if you can only confirm closer to the date AND please advise if you would like to attend but can't because I have chosen a date that clashes with something that WE should all be interested in (as with last year when I chose a date that clashed with the Kyneton (Vic) Lost Trades Fair!).

fletty

[FenceFurniture]

Yep.

[shanesmith80]

I'm in!

[orraloon]

Sorry will be overseas.
Regards
John

[wheelinround]

CRIKEY I might be down that weekend sons turns 40 that celebration yet to be confirmed. Can't confirm either way ATM.

That should be an interesting day Alan and timed just prior SWWS (http://impressiveexhibitions.com.au/index.php/sydney-details.html)

[woodPixel]

Kreg?

[NCArcher]

I'm in.
But you already knew that. :U

Do you mean Kreg pocket hole jig Wood pixie?
I can bring one if anyone wants to try one but most will be familiar with them I think.

[wheelinround]

I'm in.
But you already knew that. :U

Do you mean Kreg pocket hole jig Wood pixie?
I can bring one if anyone wants to try one but most will be familiar with them I think.

I recall reading about Wood Pixies to my kids Tony, they enjoyed them in the stories, not so much trolls and Oger's tho.

Can I use one wood turning?

[fletty]

Kreg?


I'm in.
But you already knew that. :U

Do you mean Kreg pocket hole jig Wood pixie?
I can bring one if anyone wants to try one but most will be familiar with them I think.

Someone (and I honestly can't think who?) has recently also bought a Kreg Foreman (?) pocket hole thingo?
It would certainly fit into the theme. Now, who was it?

fletty

[fletty]

Sorry will be overseas.
Regards
John

Sorry you can't make it mate

[Chris Parks]

I will confirm my previous confirmation. Anyone got a Dowelmax to add to the variety?

[fletty]

Joinery systems get together
fletty's shed
Camden, NSW
10am, Sunday, 18th June, 2017


Systems to be demonstrated and tried, already include;


Leigh dovetail (D4)
Gifkin dovetail
Domino
Hegner finger jointer
lock mitre (using Infinity set up gauges)
Trend mortise and tenon


In addition, the following have been offered, but to be confirmed


Incra positioner
Incra iBox


and, I'm hoping for offers of;

Kreg Foreman (?)


Attendees ( as at 18:00, 20/3/17)
Fence furniture
shanesmith80
NCArcher
Chris Parks
ajw
Peter57?

[ajw]

I'm interested. Will need to confirm closer to the date. I have an Incra iBox, but haven't used it much. Happy to bring it along.

cheers

ajw

[elanjacobs]

Pity I'm in the wrong state or I'd bring along our Lamello Invis Mx2.
It's a fantastic concept, but you have to be absolutely spot-on with your drilling or you're in for an entire galaxy of pain...

[ajw]

I also have a hammer and some nails... Stop scoffing. It's a joinery system. The advanced version uses a drill and some screws.

[fletty]

I also have a hammer and some nails... Stop scoffing. It's a joinery system. The advanced version uses a drill and some screws.

Shall I add them to the 'already included' list or 'offered, but to be confirmed'?

[Peter57]

Interested for sure. Will need to confirm closer to the date though.

Cheers,
Peter

[crowie]

Thank you Alan, I'm hoping to be there...cheers Peter

[FenceFurniture]

So, fletty, quite a few have joined up eh? Get it? "Joined up".

I almost started laughing at that......

[Simplicity]

Possibly but not really sure
Date is fine


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[fletty]

So, fletty, quite a few have joined up eh? Get it? "Joined up".

I almost started laughing at that......

Yep, I think you nailed it!

[FenceFurniture]

So I didn't screw up then?

[fletty]

Joinery systems get together
fletty's shed
Camden, NSW
10am, Sunday, 18th June, 2017


Systems to be demonstrated and tried, already include;


Leigh dovetail (D4)
Gifkin dovetail
Domino
Hegner finger jointer
lock mitre (using Infinity set up gauges)
Trend mortise and tenon


In addition, the following have been offered, but to be confirmed


Incra positioner
Incra iBox


and, I'm hoping for offers of;

Kreg Foreman (?)


PLEASE NOTE that kind offers of nails, screws bolts, nuts, glue, gang nails, duct tape, fishing line, staples and fencing wire will unfortunately have to be held over to a second JGTG!

Attendees ( as at 08:00, 22/3/17)
Fence furniture
shanesmith80
NCArcher
Chris Parks
ajw
Peter57?
Crowie
wheelinround?
Simplicity?
Uncle Al (x2?)

[fletty]

So I didn't screw up then?

Nah, nuttin' like it!

[FenceFurniture]

Nah, nuttin' like it!


I think you're in the wrong thread.

[ian]

Nah, nuttin' like it!


I think you're in the wrong thread.

Hi Brett

perhaps you need to bolt out of it ?

[FenceFurniture]

Pffft. Everyone is following on.

Must be a Domino Theory.

[Simplicity]

Pffft. Everyone is following on.

Must be a Domino Theory.

Brett
Your getting stuck on repetitive ideas
Will glue be included [emoji15]

Cheers Matt


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[Uncle Al]

I have been away from the forum for a few days, just catching up now. Yes, I will be there, should be a great day.

I can bring some gang nails and a big hammer if you need more joinery systems:D.

Alan...

[wheelinround]

I think you need to Plug it a bit more Alan. Will you be supplying biscuits

[Glider]

I'd like to come. I've stuck it into my calendar.
mick

[wheelinround]

At this rate we'll be wedged in tighter than a dowel in the joint

[Chris Parks]

Can I bring my nail gun?

[markkr]

Hello Alan,

Put me down for the GTG too, please.

I have an Ozzie jig (dowelling system), which I bought at a WWWS nearly 20 years ago. It was never quite right, though reasonably useful for a beginner. Of course, it has not left the box since I acquired the Domino (thank you once again Brett for all the effort you put into that GB!).

Cheers,

Mark

[fletty]

Hello Alan,

Put me down for the GTG too, please.

I have an Ozzie jig (dowelling system), which I bought at a WWWS nearly 20 years ago. It was never quite right, though reasonably useful for a beginner. Of course, it has not left the box since I acquired the Domino (thank you once again Brett for all the effort you put into that GB!).

Cheers,

Mark

Thanks Mark, I'll save you a spot at the BBQ too :;

[Sawdust Maker]

I can probably make it.

I can bring along an old screwdriver

[Bushmiller]

I can probably make it.

I can bring along an old screwdriver

Nick

Would that be yourself?

:wink:

Regards
Paul

[NCArcher]

I can probably make it.

I can bring along an old screwdriver


Nick

Would that be yourself?

:wink:

Regards
Paul

No I think he means me. :q

[Anura]

Sounds a great opportunity and I would certainly attend but unfortunately am away that weekend.
Rgds
Hi folks, at last year's Sharpening GT, an idea was floated to hold another GT but on joinery systems and there seems to be enough interest to go ahead.
So, here is the idea..
Joinery systems get together
fletty's shed
Camden, NSW
10am, Sunday, 18th June, 2017


Systems to be demonstrated and tried, already include;



Leigh dovetail (D4)
Gifkin dovetail
Domino
Hegner finger jointer
lock mitre (using Infinity set up gauges)
Trend mortise and tenon

In addition, the following have been offered, but to be confirmed

Incra positioner

and, I'm hoping for offers of;

Incra iBox?
Kreg Foreman (?)


Mid June will be cold in Camden but an open, outdoor fire is planned and there are heaters in the shed. There will be the usual freebie sausage sandwiches available and BBQ space if you want to cook something yourself.
Depending on weather, there is off-street parking and/or camping/ caravan, power is available.
Please advise if you are interested in attending even if you can only confirm closer to the date AND please advise if you would like to attend but can't because I have chosen a date that clashes with something that WE should all be interested in (as with last year when I chose a date that clashed with the Kyneton (Vic) Lost Trades Fair!).

fletty

[fletty]

Only 65 more sleeps!

[Pat]

I'll wander up the road.

Joinery, does that include Paper joins, Spigot and mortice or Laminations?

I finally found the thread :U

[crowie]

Only 65 more sleeps!


Still that's 2 months!!

But looking forward to the gathering!!!!!

[DaveTTC]

I'm looming for am excuse to head to Sydney again.

Its in the calendar. Will see what work dictates

DaveTTC
The Turning Cowboy
Turning Wood Into Art

[Uncle Al]

I'm looming for am excuse to head to Sydney again.



Don't forget to bring your trailer with you!

Alan...

[DaveTTC]

Don't forget to bring your trailer with you!

Alan...
That too is part of the reason 😉

DaveTTC
The Turning Cowboy
Turning Wood Into Art

[Darrylf42]

Hey Fletty,

I've just re-joined the forum after an extended absence, just moved to the area (Belimbla Park), and am in the process of setting up my workshop again. It would be good to meet some other local woodies.

I am in Japan that week for work, but with a little luck I will be able to be there on the Sunday. Please keep me posted on the details.

Darryl

[fletty]

Hi Darryl, it would be great if you can make it, if not, drop me a line and visit the shed any time?
fletty

[wheelinround]

We wont be down now. After surprise visit by son & family yesterday for an overnight stay. He's decided no party for 40th.

[groeneaj]

I'll be there Alan. I'm looking forward to it!

[Simplicity]

Unfortunately
We're looking unlikely now[emoji853][emoji853]

Cheers Matt


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[fletty]

Unfortunately
We're looking unlikely now[emoji853][emoji853]

Cheers Matt




:saddest::saddest:

[DaveTTC]

Looking at a week off which should roll me from this gtg to Dales blacksmithing gtg in Melbourne the following week.

DaveTTC
The Turning Cowboy
Turning Wood Into Art

[TimberNut]

Hey Alan,

count me in! please PM me your address again
Ian.

[fletty]

Thanks Ian, will do re PM

fletty

[econ]

Fletty,

I havent read the whole thread but if you need these systems I can make them available

Dowelmax
Incra positioner
Incra box although this will need tablesaw and dado blades with right size arbor . i have 30 mm arbor dado blades if needed

[fletty]

Fletty,

I havent read the whole thread but if you need these systems I can make them available

Dowelmax
Incra positioner
Incra box although this will need tablesaw and dado blades with right size arbor . i have 30 mm arbor dado blades if needed

Thanks for your kind offer, I've now got the iBox covered and will already have that set up on the saw bench for demos on the day but the Incra positioner would be very welcome if you can come with it and do the demo :B?
The logistics of the day look like;
Domino using workbench
then Gifkin using router table while Hegner fitted to workbench
Hegner finger joint demo
IBox on sawtable while router table set up for Incra positioner?
Sausage sandwiches, outdoor fire and outrageous yarns about woodworking and life while Leigh jig set up on workbench
Incra positioner demo on router table
Leigh jig demo at workbench

fletty

[ian]

H Fletty,
I think what you really meant to advise is:

The logistics of the day look like;

meet and greet
Domino using workbench
then outrageous yarns about woodworking and life
Gifkin using router table while Hegner fitted to workbench
then more outrageous yarns about woodworking and life
Hegner finger joint demo
then even more outrageous yarns about woodworking and life
IBox on sawtable while router table set up for Incra positioner?
Sausage sandwiches, outdoor fire and outrageous yarns about woodworking and life while Leigh jig set up on workbench
Incra positioner demo on router table
finish the sausage sangas and tell even more outrageous yarns
Leigh jig demo at workbench


after all Brett will be there ... :U

[fletty]

H Fletty,
I think what you really meant to advise is:


after all Brett will be there ... :U

You must have skyped the sharpening get together last year :doh:

[econ]

Fletty , I'll send a PM with my details .

PS just tried to send PM , system is saying your Inbox may be full.

But Incra positioner with router, router table , bits and dimensioned timber is no problem.

It may be interesting for anyone who hasn't used the Incra to do the demo, with me in the wings
providing the step by step instructions . I know when I was comtemplating the Incra for many years,it just
looked too complicated and finicky . But its actually quite straightforward and anyone can master it as the demo will show.

Chris Parks expressed an interest in the Dowelmax , which is also available if you wish, and quick to master so will take up very little time.
Its a deceptively simple tool . I don't use the domino hardly at all because of dowelmax.


.

[fletty]

Fletty , I'll send a PM with my details .

PS just tried to send PM , system is saying your Inbox may be full.

.

Sorry, should be fixed now

[NCArcher]

Chris Parks expressed an interest in the Dowelmax , which is also available if you wish, and quick to master so will take up very little time.
Its a deceptively simple tool . I don't use the domino hardly at all because of dowelmax.
.
I'd be interested in the Dowelmax as well.

[econ]

More than happy to bring it to the GTG, fits in the car's glovebox, and no mains electricity needed to make it work :2tsup:

[fletty]

Econ and I have chatted and I'm really excited to to let everyone know that the gtg will now have demonstrations of;
Dowelmax
Domino
Gifkin dovetail
Hegner finger jointer
Trend mortise and tenon
Leigh D4R
Incra iBox
and Incra positioner

Even more importantly, the sausages will be coming from Tildsley's Butchery, the bread from Amigo Bakery and the beer from Illawarra Brewery (that's a hint Pat :B)

(a very happy) fletty :brava

[Pat]

Even more importantly, the sausages will be coming from Tildsley's Butchery, the bread from Amigo Bakery and the beer from Illawarra Brewery (that's a hint Pat :B)

(a very happy) fletty :brava


Subtle, almost as subtle as this . . . 413154

[Sawdust Maker]

big or little Domino?

[NCArcher]

Fletty has a little one :D

[Sawdust Maker]

does anyone have a big one?




Domino that is!

[fletty]

big or little ..... ?

little

[Auntie Chris]

Yep ill be there

[DaveTTC]

Not sure where things sit for me atm. Exports at work have been shut down due to mouse overrun.

Yet to see if this means easy to get time off work or all hands on deck. Will find out Monday I hope

DaveTTC
The Turning Cowboy
Turning Wood Into Art

[Uncle Al]

Dave, just take your cat and kittens to work for a couple of days. You won't have to feed them, and they will have heaps of fun and get plenty of exercise!

Alan...

[DaveTTC]

I reckon they could use a minimum 100 cats out there and they wouldnt need to be fed dor 6 to 8 weeks

DaveTTC
The Turning Cowboy
Turning Wood Into Art

[ian]

I reckon they could use a minimum 100 cats out there and they wouldn't need to be fed for 6 to 8 weeks

I recon that your 100 cats would struggle just to deal with the mouse birth rate. As a first estimate, 10,000 mice can produce around 50,000 little mice every 20 days, or roughly 2,500 per day.

At 10 mice per cat per day, your 100 cats would only be knocking over 1000 mice per day.

[DaveTTC]

Wow that bad .... i reckon we have 100 000 on site easy

DaveTTC
The Turning Cowboy
Turning Wood Into Art

[Pac man]

Wood fire Fletty or gas BBQ?
I need to burn some cautionary tales. I think others call them mistakes

[fletty]

Wood fire Fletty or gas BBQ?
I need to burn some cautionary tales. I think others call them mistakes

The combined mistake rectifier and marshmallow toaster is finished and trialled...

413262 413265

I will be accepting wood work and spoon carving sub-optimal works in plain brown paper bags ready to be discreetly cremated on the day?

[nyamo_iaint]

If I might, I'd like to come along too.
It would be interesting to see what's available should I ever have a work area with power... (DowelMax excepted I guess).

Iain

[DaveTTC]

Asked at work a bit earlier (still here now) looks like time off should not be a problem at tjis stage

DaveTTC
The Turning Cowboy
Turning Wood Into Art

[fletty]

If I might, I'd like to come along too.
It would be interesting to see what's available should I ever have a work area with power... (DowelMax excepted I guess).

Iain

Hi Iain, you are most welcome. I'll send out a PM before the day but basically you don't need to bring anything. I'm supplying sausage sandwiches but please bring anything else you might want to eat or drink?
fletty

[fletty]

The Jointing System Get Together (JSGTG) is evolving nicely and there is still plenty of time and space for more people to come along. Basically, it is a group of mostly members of this forum meeting together to see, compare and potentially use the different jointing systems currently available on the Australian market. There is no sales push nor pressure as we are all users not sellers but this is a chance for you to see and try before you buy?

Date: starts 10am, Sunday 18th June, 2017
Location: fletty's shed, Camden, NSW (about 50km SW of Sydney CBD, details will be in the PM)
Facilities: shed, toilet, off street parking (if dry!), barbecue, fire pit, covered areas
Provided: sausage sandwiches
Confirmed Jointing systems to be demonstrated:

Domino
Trend mortise and tenon
Gifkin dovetail jig
Leigh D24R dovetail jig
iBox finger jointer
Hegner finger jointer
Incra positioner, finger, dovetail and other joints ( thanks to econ)
dowelmax dowel joints ( also thanks to econ)
stepped mitre joint using Infinity set up jig

Other: everyone is welcome to bring along surplus tools and timber etc to sell on the day, completed or WIP works to show off and anything else that you might want to eat, drink and/or cook on the barbecue.

fletty

[Chris Parks]

Do we all have to bring a shovel to move the ski jump?:)

[crowie]

Do we all have to bring a shovel to move the ski jump?:)


If there's snow, I'm out...

But any idea on who and how are coming??

[fletty]

Do we all have to bring a shovel to move the ski jump?:)

No Chris. That is just sooooo 'last week'.................... :doh:

413744

The ski jump has however been replaced by a water slide...... rapidly turning into a mudslide! :tears:

[fletty]

If there's snow, I'm out...

But any idea on who and how are coming??

Snow at your place or at mine :no:

If this rain doesn't stop soon you're more likely to need SCUBA gear rather than ski gear?

At last count there are about 20 coming with a further half dozen 'maybes'. We had over 40 for the sharpening gtg.

[Keith_1]

Fletty,

Hope you and all attendees have a great time at your get together

Regards

Keith

[Just George]

The Jointing System Get Together (JSGTG) is evolving nicely and there is still plenty of time and space for more people to come along. Basically, it is a group of mostly members of this forum meeting together to see, compare and potentially use the different jointing systems currently available on the Australian market. There is no sales push nor pressure as we are all users not sellers but this is a chance for you to see and try before you buy?

Date: starts 10am, Sunday 18th June, 2017
Location: fletty's shed, Camden, NSW (about 50km SW of Sydney CBD, details will be in the PM)
Facilities: shed, toilet, off street parking (if dry!), barbecue, fire pit, covered areas
Provided: sausage sandwiches
Confirmed Jointing systems to be demonstrated:

Domino
Trend mortise and tenon
Gifkin dovetail jig
Leigh D24R dovetail jig
iBox finger jointer
Hegner finger jointer
Incra positioner, finger, dovetail and other joints ( thanks to econ)
dowelmax dowel joints ( also thanks to econ)
stepped mitre joint using Infinity set up jig

Other: everyone is welcome to bring along surplus tools and timber etc to sell on the day, completed or WIP works to show off and anything else that you might want to eat, drink and/or cook on the barbecue.

fletty


What a shame I have just heard about this now, I would love to see the iBox being used. I would also have brought my jigs to show off, Leigh D4R, Multiple Mortice and Tenon Jig and Isoloc template.

Shame too it's also so close to the Sydney Wood Show.

Hopefully next time, I'll see the post sooner.

[DaveTTC]

The ski jump has however been replaced by a water slide...... rapidly turning into a mudslide! :tears:

Did i mention I was hoping to bring the family?

That mud slide might go down well with some

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170608/3b437767c07b0a51bc4b1aaef4b31f84.jpg

But I'm not quite as excited lol

DaveTTC
The Turning Cowboy
Turning Wood Into Art

[Skew's_Girl]

Count Skew and I in.


CRIKEY I might be down that weekend

Pleeeeeeeeease come! I want to show you and Sue my latest. I'm down to a thickness suitable for Shetland knitting!

[fletty]

Count Skew and I in.



Pleeeeeeeeease come! I want to show you and Sue my latest. I'm down to a thickness suitable for Shetland knitting!

So glad you can come. I can't do Shetland knitting but I will be going there in Setember?

[Skew's_Girl]

I'll bring the bobbin for giggles. Andy's been working on a wheel for a friend but it's at a fragile stage and probably can't do the trip.
Hey, is 'Long Draw' a joining method? ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HNrflq9sd0

[fletty]

Hey, is 'Long Draw' a joining method? ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HNrflq9sd0

Nah but 'knit 1, purl 1' would be right up there with Sawdust Maker's suggestion of "hammer and nails"?

[ian]

If there's snow, I'm out...

But any idea on who and how are coming??oh, you mean I have to leave this
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[Sawdust Maker]

So Ian did you really need to buy that where you are?

[ian]

I'm joking (it snowed here again today) -- but maybe Fletty needs something similar for his ski slope

[fletty]

I'm joking (it snowed here again today) -- but maybe Fletty needs something similar for his ski slope

It's funny you should say that. We have had A LOT of rain and the back paddock and driveway are very soft and boggy. This could make next Sunday's gtg a bit difficult! When going through my options of WHAT will harden the ground, freezing it was briefly considered before being discarded as impractical? However..... you may have put it back on the table?

[crowie]

Not at all difficult, a 4WD Mud Runner display at lunch time....


A Fletty Monster Trucks Jam!!!!

[crowie]

Alan, Have you heard from Ray, aka wheelinaround, as to whether he's coming down; haven't seen him on the forum for a month, hope he's okay!! Cheers Peter

[fletty]

Alan, Have you heard from Ray, aka wheelinaround, as to whether he's coming down; haven't seen him on the forum for a month, hope he's okay!! Cheers Peter

Hi Crowie, I'm in contact with Ray every few days via SMS. He's in good nick except for his usual dropping of sharp things onto himself but Sue has a bad dose of the dreaded lurgy! His bench is nearly finished and looking good but, how he does it given his lack of mobility, still amazes me? They won't be down for the gtg. They had hoped that it would line up with some other family functions but that's not happening now.
He has some timber stored at my place as "turning blanks" which I was supposed to sell at the last gtg :doh:but will definitely be sold/donated at this one. Pat will make sure of this as "what don't get turned, will be burned"!

fletty

[Chris Parks]

I am doubtful at this stage but let's see what happens this week.

[ubeaut]

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Last Activity: May 5th at 9:56

Contrary to what Fletty wrote above (and edited out) Wheelinround is not banned from the forums. He did receive a 1 week ban which ended 13th May for an altercation with a Moderator.

Maybe someone might like to contact him and see what the real reason is for his unusually long absence.

But no matter what don't come back and say he is banned as he definitely isn't. He may just be upset and not wanting to play any more.

If for some reason he can't get on to the forums please let me know and I'll do what I can, when I can, to sort out his problems..... (with connection, nothing else).

Cheers - Neil :U