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abrogard
22nd October 2017, 01:38 PM
I have no lathe.

Want to make a rolling pin with handles. You know? Handles that rotate. Or stay put while the rolling pin itself rotates.

Can't put a steel rod through the length of the pin. No way to drill that far.

Want to make a pin about 12" long and then handles on top of that.

About 3" diameter.

My mother had one like that I remember well.

All the ones I see nowadays are too short and too thin and heaps of them don't even have rotating handles.

Best idea I've seen yet is get drilled out handles and put a coach bolt through them into a drilled out hole each end of the pin and epoxy it in there.

Any advances on that?

Easier the better. I'm no great hand.

cava
22nd October 2017, 02:58 PM
For me, solid pin and handles are the best ie one piece. Less to go wrong all round.

derekcohen
22nd October 2017, 03:05 PM
Best idea I've seen yet is get drilled out handles and put a coach bolt through them into a drilled out hole each end of the pin and epoxy it in there.

One better would be to tap a thread for the coach bolts, rather than using epoxy. That way you can replace the handles if so needed.

Regards from Perth

Derek

BobL
22nd October 2017, 03:11 PM
If you have no lathe I assume you have another way of getting it cylindrical.

In that case, cut the wood you are going to use into 4 long segments, plane or cut, or rout off the common edge and glue them all back together leaving a hole down the middle.
You could use 4 different types of woods and make a feature of it.

ian
22nd October 2017, 03:33 PM
:whs:

this method will also work if you are turning something on a lathe and need a hole through the centre.



But, my mum had a rolling pin with handles -- which I think originally belonged to my great grandmother, so was most likely purchased around when she (great grandmother) married in the late 1890s.
Having used both mum's and rolling pins with rotating handles, I much prefer fixed handles.

abrogard
22nd October 2017, 03:52 PM
One better would be to tap a thread for the coach bolts, rather than using epoxy. That way you can replace the handles if so needed.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Well I'd drill a pilot hole, I wouldn't led the coach bolt drive itself in there. But tap a thread? Can you do that? I didn't know. I thought only bolt threads were tappable. And a coach bolt is a screw thread isn't it?




For me, solid pin and handles are the best ie one piece. Less to go wrong all round.




oh... forgot the post about cutting and joining the wood etc...

Not necessary, just buy and use a pole or rod, whatever you call it. 2" dia is easy to get. I think 3" not too hard. Even maybe 4".



Mate, you're a woodworker, not a pastrycook or such. Well in fact most of them these days seem satisfied without rotating handles. But let me tell you when you've got good stiff dough - like for pasta - and lots of it then you need to lean into the job.

And you can't lean well with your palms down on a rod.

Not like you can lean onto a couple of rotating handles.

And that kinda, what is it, 'physical truth', 'ergonomic truth' ? , holds good of course for all the work you do, making more usual dough rolling so much easier....

they wouldn't know who haven't tried it... ;)

p.s. forgot about the 'cutting and joining' suggestion.

not necessary. the idea is to use off the shelf rod or pole, whatever you call it. at 3" dia or may 3.5" - 4", whatever is available.

BobL
22nd October 2017, 04:04 PM
Mate, you're a woodworker, not a pastrycook or such. Well in fact most of them these days seem satisfied without rotating handles. But let me tell you when you've got good stiff dough - like for pasta - and lots of it then you need to lean into the job. .

Most European nonnas don't use rotating handle rolling pins for their pasta dough anyway, instead they use something like this.
Even the quite elderly ones still have pretty amazing arm strength.
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abrogard
22nd October 2017, 04:32 PM
I can believe it. All over China - and that's a lot of people isn't it - they just use a pole. All over the internet they're selling 'rolling pins' which are just cylinders.

I think it's like the difference between the old days of British and American motor cycles before the Japs came along. Total 'paradigm shift' as they say nowadays..

It's a simple question of leverage. And tradition. And inertia. :)

Sturdee
22nd October 2017, 04:45 PM
Rolling pins are normally made on a lathe, where you can drill a hole right through with a long boring kit.

If that is not available then it would be cheaper and simpler to buy a pasta rolling machine as they are less then $ 50.00 (http://www.kitchenwarehouse.com.au/Avanti-Pasta-Making-Machine-Red?sc=345&category=11225587)

Peter.

abrogard
22nd October 2017, 05:50 PM
Thanks for the suggestions regarding making this that or the other.. might do it one day...

Meanwhile - any ideas how to fix a rotating handle onto a rolling pin - no, let's say 'pole' , eh, and leave the whole 'rolling pin' thing out ?

cava
22nd October 2017, 07:44 PM
Try the coach bolt approach.

Use stainless steel coach bolts drilled through the handles and into a recessed devil nut on the inside of the rolling pin body. Either epoxy it all together, or leave it moderately secured to allow for dismantling when required for cleaning.

Kidbee
22nd October 2017, 08:46 PM
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abrogard
22nd October 2017, 09:29 PM
Try the coach bolt approach.

Use stainless steel coach bolts drilled through the handles and into a recessed devil nut on the inside of the rolling pin body. Either epoxy it all together, or leave it moderately secured to allow for dismantling when required for cleaning.

Guess that's what I'll do. What's a 'devil nut' ? I just looked up coach bolts and I had the wrong idea. They're not what I thought they were.

We have a table with great big coarse threaded screws holding the legs on and that's what I thought they were.

Screws. With a very large thread.

But they're bolts, real bolts. So my apologies for being so thick to that earlier poster who suggested I thread the hole for the bolt. He was quite right.

Or I guess a 'devil nut' could be used in place of the threading - that's the point of it? So how does that work?

I just had another thought today, too. I've got a vague memory of somewhere selling drilled lengths of dowel. If you can still call it dowel when it gets to about 3" diam. If I can find some ready drilled I could then run a rod right through. Maybe even put bearings on it ?

cava
22nd October 2017, 10:35 PM
It's known by different names, devil nut is one, but following is a Bunnings link.

https://www.bunnings.com.au/prestige-m6-x-13mm-zinc-plated-type-e-screw-in-insert-nut-4-pack_p4011833 (https://www.bunnings.com.au/prestige-m6-x-13mm-zinc-plated-type-e-screw-in-insert-nut-4-pack_p4011833)

Robson Valley
23rd October 2017, 02:54 AM
I have two 3/8" drill bits that would work just fine. One (14") is called an "aircraft" bit, the 18" long one is an "installer's" bit. Don't care where the names came from.

Personally, I think that handles are a dang nuisance. My SIL gave me a beautiful 3" x 13" rolling pin.
The handle axel was a wooden dowel and I broke it. Now I can stand the pin up in a corner, out of the way.
I am never going to try to fix it.

abrogard
23rd October 2017, 06:42 AM
It's known by different names, devil nut is one, but following is a Bunnings link.

https://www.bunnings.com.au/prestige-m6-x-13mm-zinc-plated-type-e-screw-in-insert-nut-4-pack_p4011833 (https://www.bunnings.com.au/prestige-m6-x-13mm-zinc-plated-type-e-screw-in-insert-nut-4-pack_p4011833)

Ah yes, I know those things. I've used them. To replace the door lining in an old Ford. You can't reach in to put a nut behind and there's a big hole already there to go into so you can't use a screw. So you use these things. I'd say they were one version of them.

Excellent. To this day I can't remember what they were called. Thanks for that. :)


Personally, I think that handles are a dang nuisance. My SIL gave me a beautiful 3" x 13" rolling pin.
The handle axel was a wooden dowel and I broke it. Now I can stand the pin up in a corner, out of the way.
I am never going to try to fix it.

Sounds like the perfect roller. 13" roller and then plus handles? That's about what I'm planning to make. You broke a wooden dowel axle. Makes my point for me perhaps. See how much pressure you were able to put down there.....


Having used both mum's and rolling pins with rotating handles, I much prefer fixed handles.

There you go. To each his own. My own wife prefers a solid shaft of wood. Not even handles. Doesn't like my technique either, it's 'not right'. :)

DaveTTC
23rd October 2017, 02:24 PM
Having researched it a bit juat a few werks ago some say fixed handles are better.

Apparently a free wheeling roller pushed the doe in front of the roller leading to uneven thickness whereas a fixed roller goes ovsr the doe flattening it out.

Anyway I just made this one, a uniform pastry pin

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171023/edbc51520a9ecf5294ea02faf00f62e1.jpg


DaveTTC
The Turning Cowboy
Turning Wood Into Art

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abrogard
23rd October 2017, 03:18 PM
Well it sure looks lovely. And I'm sure there's a majority of users that'd just love it - because it seems certain the majority of users do use that type. Or even simple, just a rod.

But I swear by the turning handle type. :)

cava
23rd October 2017, 03:42 PM
Having researched it a bit juat a few werks ago some say fixed handles are better.
Perfect for recalcitrant husbands. :D

Robson Valley
23rd October 2017, 04:16 PM
I have just a 3" x 13" cylinder now. Handles are not at all relevant.
I thought they would be. Quite upset when I broke the axel rod.
Never need to see them again.
I'm happy to stand it on end, out of the way, while I attend to other pastry things.

Kidbee
23rd October 2017, 07:24 PM
422966........and when you get going you can knock out one of these Ravioli Rolling Pins as well. It is endless!!!!