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Ben Wheeler
9th May 2018, 04:16 AM
Hi there! I got lucky at a recent auction, and have ended up with far more timber than I ever expected squeezing into my modest workshop (about 1.5 M3). There are three main types of timber there, and a chat with some much more knowledgeable chaps at my furniture class still didn't yield positive IDs.

I'd really appreciate any thoughts on the species, and also any rough prices, as I'll probably offload some.

1) My first guess on this one was red oak, but my teacher's suggestion was European Beech, which looks pretty right based on some further Googling. I planed the edges to be exactly quarter sawn, and you can see the really strong rays. It works extremely easily (compared with white oak) and doesn't have the open pores of oak:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180508/c3558f6728465c94c5f556c0d1e6015b.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180508/365b09e4506791f14cc9ded598f7f9e5.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180508/d0349929608d912f7472bc02efa1452e.jpg

By the way, when not dressed, the sawn timber has an unusual peach hue about it.

2) This was labelled as Myrtle, and although the brains trust was sceptical about this, it does look similar to images I've seen online. Beautiful tight grain, nice quarter sawn figure.. This timber is also surprisingly light.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180508/f0d021b1c395cacb1ffae6c6f1de7ed2.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180508/8057668b299fdefce5aea6b010e7806f.jpg

3) The honchos were pretty confident about this being blackwood; my only reason for being a bit surprised was that it's darker than other stuff I've seen.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180508/fb356a8331e64aa09f99b42651652aa1.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180508/c094e34d0d6b3699c62d61e1177b9431.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180508/d84418b793888c61497dec025b528321.jpg

Thanks for any help!

Wood Collector
14th May 2018, 08:50 PM
1. Euro Beech
2. kauri or Tas Myrtle
3. Tas Blackwood

cava
14th May 2018, 09:08 PM
Not to sure about the first picture, but it looks familiar.

The second picture does not look like the myrtle I have.

Third picture looks like blackwood.

Ben Wheeler
14th May 2018, 10:26 PM
Thanks for the replies.

#2 was labelled as Myrtle, and it does look very much like the Tas Myrtle I've seen on the Wood Database site. I had one other person say that they didn't think it looked like Myrtle they'd seen - cava, I don't suppose you have US Myrtle?

From The Wood Database (http://www.wood-database.com):

Tas Myrtle

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180514/fc7e47ef7baaf1b216d84446e4fcfeb9.jpeg

US Myrtle

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180514/cbc76e200164ed3a22308092a3188678.jpeg

By the way, the picture of the face of #2 is a bit inaccurate - I reckon it's lighter and pinker than what came out in the photo.

cava
14th May 2018, 10:36 PM
I have a round pedestal table made from Tas Myrtle that we bought in 1981,and also some Victorian (if there is such a thing) Myrtle which is lighter and pinker in colour and weight.

Further I was given some Tas Myrtle from a Queensland member 7-8 months ago.

To be honest the end grain looks like Myrtle, but the surface looks completely different to what I have.

Ben Wheeler
14th May 2018, 11:30 PM
Interesting! The stuff I have is noticeably light. I don't suppose the difference in appearance is due to my piece being quarter sawn?

Apologies if I'm asking stupid questions. I'm new to this timber identification game!

Euge
19th May 2018, 11:42 PM
My suggestion is

Eur Beech
US Cherry
Blackwood

Somerfly
27th Jun 2018, 11:39 PM
Hi Ben
I can say that Tassie myrtle is hard and heavy and colour can vary as does Blackwood. It is also common practice to quarter saw it as it seasons poorly backsawn. So you can rule out myrtle in my opinion.
Cheers Wayne

Mobyturns
28th Jun 2018, 11:24 AM
Ben, the first set of pics is Northern Silky Oak (Cardwellia submilis) imho.

Euro Oak does not have that strong medullary ray fleck or flecks of that size in the samples that I have seen.

NSO has quite a range of colours and grain variations from a light chocolate brown to almost a light whitish pink. Have a close look in the pore structure of the sample you have for any small white "pipes" in the grain. NSO quite often has deposits of mineral salts trapped within the grain, which is a good identifier.