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Superbunny
27th October 2018, 03:22 PM
I'm looking for some plans that I can adapt for a hall bench that’s simple with arms and a padded seat. No storage, and must look like a refined bit of furniture. I'm at the planning stage for this project and it will live in the bedroom, I just can’t bend down and do up my shoes like I used to but have no problem if I sit and do them up.

SB

auscab
28th October 2018, 08:20 PM
like this ?

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.antiquemahogany.com.au%2Fmedia%2Fcatalog%2Fproduct%2Fcache%2F1%2Fimage%2F9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95%2F1%2F_%2F1_25_20.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.antiquemahogany.com.au%2Fantique-style-elegant-solid-mahogany-long-stool-hand-crafted.html&docid=LxyuXSDGHFC81M&tbnid=KtfLP5MG6j2Z0M%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjsiLmy5qjeAhXCR30KHdQZDAgQMwiyASgjMCM..i&w=1000&h=1000&client=firefox-b&bih=687&biw=1344&q=long%20stool%20with%20arms&ved=0ahUKEwjsiLmy5qjeAhXCR30KHdQZDAgQMwiyASgjMCM&iact=mrc&uact=8

Superbunny
29th October 2018, 02:12 PM
Yes, auscab, but with the arms not upholstered, more with slats and more curved, but yes, the right idea.

SB

ian
29th October 2018, 11:30 PM
something like this?
https://joenevo.net/wp-content/uploads/w3076i-w-650.jpg https://joenevo.net/product/antique-lifetime-hall-settle-in-mission-artscrafts-w3076/

or this
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/sdIAAOSw29xbdK3U/s-l300.jpg https://www.ebay.com/itm/Superb-Antique-Gustav-Stickley-Drop-Arm-Settle-w924-/232891430462

ian
30th October 2018, 04:08 PM
from fine Woodworking's archive

https://www.finewoodworking.com/1998/06/01/a-garden-bench-for-all-seasons you would need yo add a padded seat and might want to slim the arms and legs a little

https://www.finewoodworking.com/2001/02/01/a-light-settee-in-cherry adding a padded rather than woven seat would be straight forward, as would adding straightish arms (just lengthen the front legs). Curved arms would be a little more complex, but doable.

https://www.finewoodworking.com/2008/05/01/japanese-garden-bench for inside use I'd make the legs and rear crest rail a little lighter in section, but the bones are there.

https://www.finewoodworking.com/2015/07/29/a-wooden-waterfall perhaps a single seat chair instead of a bench?


I have the 2016 edition of Fine Woodworking's archive which contains all the above articles. If you would like to see one, please let me know before Saturday.


a useful search term is "settle"

Superbunny
1st November 2018, 07:56 PM
Hi Ian, thanks for the trouble you have gone to. I'm after something like your first post but no back and the arms curved outward.

SB

ian
1st November 2018, 08:03 PM
SB, thank you for your kind words.

ian
1st November 2018, 08:13 PM
Hi Ian, thanks for the trouble you have gone to. I'm after something like your first post but no back and the arms curved outward.
something like this/
https://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-3uyyclsi/products/163/images/483/CR100224BrownUpholsteredBench__66198.1412107716.1280.1280.jpg?c=2

or this?
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1709/0183/products/D7_00014120_800x.JPG?v=1537294793

or this?
https://a.1stdibscdn.com/archivesE/1stdibs/080514/JamesAndJeffrey_CC_DM//9/B.jpg

ian
1st November 2018, 08:18 PM
or perhaps this?

http://bikepool.co/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/rolled-arm-bench-marvelous-bedroom-bench-with-arms-with-furniture-design-bedroom-bench-with-arms-inspiring-home-rolled-arm-bench-seat.jpg

http://2mc.club/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/bedroom-arm-bench-photo-9-of-terrific-simple-vintage-bench-bedroom-design-with-square-foamy-seat-and-wooden-arms-and-beautiful-rolled-arm-victorian-bedroom-bench.jpg

ian
1st November 2018, 09:35 PM
I'm after something like your first post but no back and the arms curved outward.
you know what ??

what you want are plans for a sleigh bed.

Make the legs slightly longer,
reduce the long rails by about half -- with a corresponding reduction in rail depth
reduce the foot and headboard rails to about 1/3rd that required for a bed, with a reduction in the depth of the rails

and you will have of bench with outward curving arms.

jazzy69
2nd November 2018, 10:55 AM
Hi SB,
Australian Woodsmith issue 143 has one. Good luck.

Superbunny
2nd November 2018, 05:02 PM
Hi Ian, good work, this is more of what I am thinking, I can adapt this style I think to get what I want. I think you like the challenge of hunting this down.
SB


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ian
2nd November 2018, 06:53 PM
Hi Ian, good work, this is more of what I am thinking, I can adapt this style I think to get what I want. I think you like the challenge of hunting this down.
more I'm currently immobilised by a badly broken ankle and can't do much till the cast comes off in 2 to 3 weeks.

ian
2nd November 2018, 07:19 PM
this is more of what I am thinking, I can adapt this style I think to get what I want.

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Superbunny
2nd November 2018, 07:47 PM
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Yes, it's your image that does not copy and paste. The pic should be the last one from your post numbered 9. Sorry to hear about your ankle but I guess that’s what you get for abandoning us and going over to Canada:)

SB

poundy
2nd November 2018, 07:49 PM
or perhaps this?



http://2mc.club/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/bedroom-arm-bench-photo-9-of-terrific-simple-vintage-bench-bedroom-design-with-square-foamy-seat-and-wooden-arms-and-beautiful-rolled-arm-victorian-bedroom-bench.jpg so this....

Superbunny
3rd November 2018, 05:54 PM
Thanks poundy, that's the one, now all I need is some plans with measurements.

SB

ian
3rd November 2018, 06:58 PM
Thanks poundy, that's the one, now all I need is some plans with measurements.

SB
so do you have shot or long legs?

and is Mrs SB much shorter than you are?

Superbunny
3rd November 2018, 07:35 PM
so do you have shot or long legs?

and is Mrs SB much shorter than you are?

Hi Ian, I had a feeling you’d chime in. We share short legs I guess and I see why that will make a difference.

SB

ian
3rd November 2018, 07:51 PM
Yes, I need something woodworking like to do

ian
3rd November 2018, 10:19 PM
now all I need is some plans with measurements.I'm not entirely happy with the shape of the legs, but these should get you started
http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=445201&d=1541243794

http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=445202&d=1541243821

http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=445203&d=1541243839

Superbunny
4th November 2018, 01:18 PM
Well I never, Ian has done it again, they are almost perfect. I can adapt these easily to get the final finished style I'm after, thanks a lot Ian, fantastic job. Sorry this comes to an end for you now you have nothing to do while that ankle heals. I'm restoring a cedar chest of draws I have posted in the renovation sub forum at the moment but when I'm finished this will be my next project and I will post pics of its progression as usual. Thanks again Ian:)


SB

ian
4th November 2018, 02:19 PM
Just for info

I used imperial because the bench in the picture was sized with imperial dimensions.
The bench is designed for a slip seat. (I haven't included a sketch of the seat frame.)
because the bench is for your own personal use, I suggest that you adjust the height to match a chair that you and Mrs SB find "just the right height".
ditto for width. I don't think you would want to go much wider than about 48 inches (1200 mm), and if you go narrower than about 40 inches the bench will become a one seater. As it is, 37 inches between the legs represents two generous "railway bums" (the railway seating ditty used to be: 17 inches per bum and 17 bums to the ton).
the legs are scaled so that they can be cut from a nominal 6" wide board. (I understand that 6" rough sawn dresses to around 120 mm wide.) I suggest drawing full scale on some MDF and then playing with the profile somewhat to fine tune the shape. Once happy, make a router template.
I went with 1-1/4" (30 mm) thick legs because I though 1-1/2" (38 mm) legs looked too heavy. Your taste may differ.
I've drawn the bench with 1/8" (3 mm) reveals.
This then meant that the rails were 7/8" (22mm) thick. 19 mm (4/3") or 25 mm (1") thick rails would work just as well. Just keep the reveal on the outside.
I've drawn a center brace and glue blocks, but cross braces at the 1/3 points would work as well.
I haven't shown it, but the cross braces would be supported on cleats screwed into the long rails. If you are up to the challenge the cross braces could be dovetailed into the cleats, but a pair of brads through each brace and into the cleat would work just as well and be as "traditional".
Construction wise, I've assumed the front and rear rails would be M&T'd into the legs as step 1.
Step 2 would be add the side rails and the two crest rails. The crest rails could be located with a pair of dowels, or a 1 to 1-1/2" round tenon fitting into a shallow round mortise. The round mortise could be drilled with a suitably sized forstner bit.
The side rails could be doweled -- if your drilling equipment is up to it -- or M&T'd through the front rail tenon.
Step 3 would be the battens and cross rails, followed by the glue blocks.