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brainstrust
16th November 2018, 01:25 PM
I'm after a glue probably in black that can be used to fill in small imperfections in wood and it needs to dry quickly and can be sanded.

Something like this https://www.starbond.com/black-mediumthick-ca-glue-kbl-500.html

Does anyone have any suggestions and locations in Australia to buy such a product from?


Thank you :U

turnerted
16th November 2018, 03:48 PM
Builder's Bog . various brands available from Bunnies and add black pigment to it .
Ted

aldav
16th November 2018, 03:52 PM
Builder's Bog . various brands available from Bunnies and add black pigment to it .
Ted

Or epoxy with black in it.

brainstrust
16th November 2018, 06:44 PM
Builder's Bog . various brands available from Bunnies and add black pigment to it .
Ted

Is it fast drying?

BamBam53
16th November 2018, 08:01 PM
I got my Black Starbond from Timberly Wood Turning in New Zealand. Star bond Black supa glue wood filler (http://www.timberlywoodturning.co.nz/products/I%3A-STARBOND-Black-Medium-KE%252d150-1oz-2oz-.html)

You could also try filling the gap with dry coffee grounds then thin CA.

brainstrust
16th November 2018, 08:09 PM
I think the Star Bond is just the thing I'm after. No mixing, good to go, easy and fast :2tsup:

turnerted
16th November 2018, 08:46 PM
Bog can be turned and sanded in about 15 minutes . You can vary the set time with the amount of catalist used . I usually mix up about a desert spoon of bog to about a match head of catalist .
Ted

NeilS
17th November 2018, 06:31 PM
Builders bog is full of something like kaolin (clay) which knocks the edge of your gouges very quickly because of the silica content. Not a big issue if you are only doing a few small cracks. Epoxy does not have the same problem unless you colour with iron oxide. No problem with Epoxy + pigment.

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brainstrust
20th November 2018, 12:17 PM
I got my Black Starbond from Timberly Wood Turning in New Zealand. Star bond Black supa glue wood filler (http://www.timberlywoodturning.co.nz/products/I%3A-STARBOND-Black-Medium-KE%252d150-1oz-2oz-.html)

You could also try filling the gap with dry coffee grounds then thin CA.

I ordered some, postage is very cheap!

Fumbler
20th November 2018, 05:41 PM
postage is very cheap!

that'll be a first.

brainstrust
20th November 2018, 11:03 PM
that'll be a first.

$4.80 from NZ. A nice surprise:2tsup:

ian
21st November 2018, 09:47 AM
Brainstrust has his solution, but an alternative is 5 minute Araldite coloured with lamp black. Mix the lamp black into the darker component of the epoxy and then mix the two epoxy components together.

brainstrust
24th November 2018, 09:08 PM
$4.80 from NZ. A nice surprise:2tsup:

I'm taking back some of my praise! The item hasn't even been posted yet and I've been billed for more shipping :C

Chief Tiff
24th November 2018, 09:57 PM
What do you want it for?

This method is handy for filing voids in burls, it resembles natural gum lines or inclusions. It sands and polishes brilliantly, but has no tensile strength so it shouldn’t be used as an adhesive. It was taught to me by Willie Nelson over in WA.

Take a handfull of shellac flakes and wrap them TIGHTLY in Gladwrap, you are after a fat sausage shape. Then wrap that up TIGHTLY in cotton cloth. Drop the package into boiling water and boil for about 10 minutes, then remove and allow to cool. Once cool remove the cloth and the Gladwrap; you should be left with what looks like an almost black dog poo.

Take the poo and gently melt one end using a small gas powered torch (like one of those “turbo” cigarette lighters) allowing the moltern shellac to drip onto whatever you are trying to fill. You can also rub the moltern end of the poo directly onto the work. For burl pen blanks you can start turning or sanding almost immediately afterwards.

brainstrust
25th November 2018, 09:08 PM
mostly just as an easy on hand filler for small cracks/gaps. I don't want anything I have to prepare. This poo burning business so not for me!!!! Wouldn't mind seeing the results of it though.

homey
25th November 2018, 09:53 PM
Shellac sticks (for melting) are readily available in Australia - many tones and colours. An example is here: https://www.carbatec.com.au/sanding-and-finishing/fillers-and-touch-ups/liberon-shellac-filler-stick-tin-of-10 but you can buy individual sticks much cheaper. I use these often on boxes and can recommend the Liberon shellac sticks.

Brian

brainstrust
26th November 2018, 07:38 PM
Shellac sticks (for melting) are readily available in Australia - many tones and colours. An example is here: https://www.carbatec.com.au/sanding-and-finishing/fillers-and-touch-ups/liberon-shellac-filler-stick-tin-of-10 but you can buy individual sticks much cheaper. I use these often on boxes and can recommend the Liberon shellac sticks.

Brian

Interesting......I have a red box burl I could use this on.

brainstrust
26th November 2018, 10:04 PM
Before hollowing I need to fill these gaps :q

https://i.postimg.cc/hGbH5Jdm/20181124-182053.jpg (https://postimg.cc/QBC4BdSN)

ian
27th November 2018, 06:44 PM
Before hollowing I need to fill these gaps
Why

the finished piece should look quite interesting with those "gaps"


If they must be filled, I think you will need to us a low viscosity epoxy filler that is both tintable and stable under moderate heat.

brainstrust
27th November 2018, 09:11 PM
yeah i prefer the gaps but i think it will fall to pieces. Maybe I should gently hollow it and see how it goes. I would just hate to cross that point of no return :C

brainstrust
28th November 2018, 11:16 PM
Why

the finished piece should look quite interesting with those "gaps"


If they must be filled, I think you will need to us a low viscosity epoxy filler that is both tintable and stable under moderate heat.

I heard ya! I turned it quite thick and I rather like it. When I finish the finish I'll pic it up :U

brainstrust
7th December 2018, 03:30 PM
and here it is without the gaps filled!

https://i.postimg.cc/FsrVxfWh/red-box-bowl.jpg (https://postimg.cc/XXP5jv6P)