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DAL1957
30th December 2018, 04:12 AM
I've been watching a few videos that show people sanding their works with power sanders using small velcro type 2"-3" discs.

But where do you find one?

I have a passive Robert Sorby sanding pad on a stick that you hold against the work as it spins, but think a powered version may be better. I removed the disc section from my Robert Sorby and placed it into my cordless drill, and while it worked, it wasn't particularly effective due to the relative slow speed of the cordless drill.

I have thought about buying one of those small pneumatic sanders that range from about $80 on eBay to about $189 for a 2" Shimano Roloc at Adelaide Tools as I have a compressor quite close by.

So the questions are:
1. Does anyone have a pneumatic sander or would (or would not) recommend this option?
2. Are there any suitable 2" powered sanders out there, and where?
3. Or give up and just sand by hand?

NeilS
30th December 2018, 10:13 AM
For me 1 would be too noisy.

Some use angle drills, but again I find them too noisy.

Many are happy with the style of sander you already have and, although quieter, for me they are too slow.

I use a flexible shaft running off an ungeared motor. It is quiet and less tiring than holding an electric drill. I'll dig a photo of my setup in case of any interest.

One of the issues with the ROLOC style is you can't run them in reverse. Tim Skilton makes excellent sanding hook pads.

orraloon
30th December 2018, 10:13 AM
I only resort to power sanding if it is a nasty bit of wood that tears out no matter what you do. Try and get the best finish off the tool you can. Freshly sharpen for the final light cut and keep sanding to the minimum. I use a normal corded drill with var speed when I have to power sand. Sanding on the lathe is usually slow speeds as you want to avoid heat.
Regards
John

wm460
30th December 2018, 10:43 AM
For me 1 would be too noisy.



I use a flexible shaft running off an ungeared motor. It is quiet and less tiring than holding an electric drill. I'll dig a photo of my setup in case of any interest.



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I would be interested in seeing your set up Neil.

NeilS
30th December 2018, 02:30 PM
I would be interested in seeing your set up Neil.

OK, here we are.

447428
Flex shaft, motor and reverse switch

447429
Details on motor.

Motor could be hung if that works better for you.

NeilS
30th December 2018, 03:02 PM
Sanding on the lathe is usually slow speeds as you want to avoid heat.


Or, high speed and light touch.

smiife
30th December 2018, 05:31 PM
I've been watching a few videos that show people sanding their works with power sanders using small velcro type 2"-3" discs.

But where do you find one?

I have a passive Robert Sorby sanding pad on a stick that you hold against the work as it spins, but think a powered version may be better. I removed the disc section from my Robert Sorby and placed it into my cordless drill, and while it worked, it wasn't particularly effective due to the relative slow speed of the cordless drill.

I have thought about buying one of those small pneumatic sanders that range from about $80 on eBay to about $189 for a 2" Shimano Roloc at Adelaide Tools as I have a compressor quite close by.

So the questions are:
1. Does anyone have a pneumatic sander or would (or would not) recommend this option?
2. Are there any suitable 2" powered sanders out there, and where?
3. Or give up and just sand by hand?

Hi dal,, when you say "the slow speed of the cordless drill "........
Do you have the lathe spinning ?
I use a 3"sanding pad and 3"discs both are readily available from
any of the sponsors here on the forum , I just use an a old makita
Drill variable speed and forward and reverse , works like a dream! :U
Hope this helps.......

Treecycle
30th December 2018, 08:50 PM
Here is one of the suppliers for the sanders (https://www.cwsonline.com.au/shop/category/-sanding-pads) but most of the woodwork suppliers sell them.

wm460
30th December 2018, 08:53 PM
OK, here we are.

447428
Flex shaft, motor and reverse switch

447429
Details on motor.

Motor could be hung if that works better for you.


Thanks Neil, I think I have every thing I need to do this.:2tsup:

wm460
30th December 2018, 08:54 PM
I have thought about buying one of those small pneumatic sanders that range from about $80 on eBay to about $189 for a 2" Shimano Roloc at Adelaide Tools as I have a compressor quite close by.



I got one of these, takes both 2" and 3" discs.
My biggest problem is my compressor is about 6' away from my lathe, noisy bloody thing it is.

447442

BobL
30th December 2018, 09:07 PM
Most drill speeds are a bit on the slow slow to sand efficiently using small pads/discs.

I have an Arbortech mini grinder/carver and once you try something like that any drill based sander feels slow.
The higher speeds also helps clear the dust off the paper and although it's really meant for stationary objects it works well on object being turned in some cases.
The mini-carver is now discontinued but they now sell a contour sander which fits onto an angle grinder and more easily gets into harder to reach places and is supposed to do the business.
https://www.arbortechtools.com/au/contour-random-sander/

But like a few members mention above the noise is horrible so rarely use mine as a sander.

dai sensei
31st December 2018, 12:52 PM
I currently use a 25/50/75/100mm sanders on a drill, grinder, dremmel etc for sanding at the moment. Also looking at one of these https://woodturnerswonders.com/collections/random-orbital-sanders/products/super-premium-random-orbital-sander-ultimate-2-and-3-sanding-kit?fbclid=IwAR0x1dGojUlya9jXcH1FoXjgeBSKz_temRYZcf4QxJ-fHD2DvPNao5R3QkU

Paul39
1st January 2019, 03:08 AM
I have used one of these for years:

https://www.harborfreight.com/38-in-close-quarters-drill-with-keyless-chuck-63119.html

Made in China, so may be available in AU. A knob like this on a screw with the head cut off, covered with double sided foam tape and a square of sandpaper big enough so the corners are past the knob makes the business end. Square sandpaper as opposed to round so that you get a feathered edge.

https://www.build.com/amerock-933-cabinet-knob/s388595?uid=1313971&source=gg-gba-pla_1313971!c1046625535!a46835689410!dc!ns&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwJy6qrTK3wIVysDACh2nMgn1EAQYBCABEgL5NvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

I had a thought recently that a salvage valve from an engine would make a nice sanding fixture:

https://express.google.com/u/0/product/1092499810661785449_16283896887027240445_6538286?utm_source=google_shopping&utm_medium=tu_cu&utm_content=eid-lsjeuxoeqt&gtim=CKz0g5bPlKSo4gEQmczip8j5pZ5sGNC39RoiA1VTRCiglOXhBTCuiI8D&utm_campaign=6538286&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI08Hen7bK3wIVmbXACh2ZCQfbEAQYAyABEgLVovD_BwE&_dg=1

Glue on whatever pad suits you and stick sandpaper on with double sided carpet tape, which I find useful for many things in the shed.

I found some of these in a junk store which I use as sanding pads:

https://www.overstock.com/Sports-Toys/Foam-Mat-Floor-Tiles-Interlocking-EVA-Foam-Padding-8-piece-Set-by-Stalwart/5989905/product.html

Carpet tape: https://www.amazon.com/Strongest-Double-Sided-Carpet-Tape/dp/B01L2LN33Q/ref=asc_df_B01L2LN33Q/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167155426463&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14080213346240043047&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9014958&hvtargid=pla-311771682897&psc=1

Double sided foam tape: https://www.homedepot.com/p/3M-Scotch-1-in-x-1-66-yds-Permanent-Double-Sided-Outdoor-Mounting-Tape-411DC-SF/100575385

The above are just examples of what I am referring to. Carpet stores will have carpet tape, hardware stores other stuff, and probably carpet tape.

Happy New Year!!

Paul39
1st January 2019, 03:09 AM
I have used one of these for years:

https://www.harborfreight.com/38-in-close-quarters-drill-with-keyless-chuck-63119.html

Made in China, so may be available in AU. A knob like this on a screw with the head cut off, covered with double sided foam tape and a square of sandpaper big enough so the corners are past the knob makes the business end. Square sandpaper as opposed to round so that you get a feathered edge.

https://www.build.com/amerock-933-cabinet-knob/s388595?uid=1313971&source=gg-gba-pla_1313971!c1046625535!a46835689410!dc!ns&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwJy6qrTK3wIVysDACh2nMgn1EAQYBCABEgL5NvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

I had a thought recently that a salvage valve from an engine would make a nice sanding fixture:

https://express.google.com/u/0/product/1092499810661785449_16283896887027240445_6538286?utm_source=google_shopping&utm_medium=tu_cu&utm_content=eid-lsjeuxoeqt&gtim=CKz0g5bPlKSo4gEQmczip8j5pZ5sGNC39RoiA1VTRCiglOXhBTCuiI8D&utm_campaign=6538286&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI08Hen7bK3wIVmbXACh2ZCQfbEAQYAyABEgLVovD_BwE&_dg=1

Glue on whatever pad suits you and stick sandpaper on with double sided carpet tape, which I find useful for many things in the shed.

I found some of these in a junk store which I use as sanding pads:

https://www.overstock.com/Sports-Toys/Foam-Mat-Floor-Tiles-Interlocking-EVA-Foam-Padding-8-piece-Set-by-Stalwart/5989905/product.html

Carpet tape: https://www.amazon.com/Strongest-Double-Sided-Carpet-Tape/dp/B01L2LN33Q/ref=asc_df_B01L2LN33Q/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167155426463&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14080213346240043047&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9014958&hvtargid=pla-311771682897&psc=1

Double sided foam tape: https://www.homedepot.com/p/3M-Scotch-1-in-x-1-66-yds-Permanent-Double-Sided-Outdoor-Mounting-Tape-411DC-SF/100575385

The above are just examples of what I am referring to. Carpet stores will have carpet tape, hardware stores other stuff, and probably carpet tape.

Happy New Year!!

steck
3rd January 2019, 01:37 PM
I use this for my sanding. Its not too noisy.

Ryobi One+ 18V Right Angle Cordless Drill Driver - Skin Only


I/N: 6210502




https://2ecffd01e1ab3e9383f0-07db7b9624bbdf022e3b5395236d5cf8.ssl.cf4.rackcdn.com/Product-800x800/c5cf9495-4ecd-4416-9fc2-0165e47e374f.jpg








$99
Price correct as at Thu 03 Jan 2019 1:35:09pm

smiife
3rd January 2019, 05:27 PM
I got one of these, takes both 2" and 3"discs.
My biggest problem is my compressor is about 6' away from my lathe, noisy bloody thing it is.

447442

Buy a 20mtr long air hose and move the compressor!
Mines 30mtrs away from the shed under the house , never hear It ......

DAL1957
29th May 2019, 03:21 AM
Quick resurrection of an older post.

I have just been looking at: https://carvingtoolsaustralia.com/store/10116-merlin2-nick-agar-signature-series-woodworking-set-220v-10116

and was wondering if anyone else has used this tool, or knows anything about it.

It looks quite versatile as it looks to do a lot more than just sand, however it does have hefty price tag.



https://static1.squarespace.com/static/55b75273e4b0d22bbc664f07/55bafc3ae4b0e30ad9f7f901/582128cf2994ca4b54b1de4b/1478568145075/Agar_220box.jpg

Paul39
29th May 2019, 08:19 AM
Even if you are in a position of "cost is of no object", take a long look t everything in the set and have a think about "will I ever use this piece". I used one of these for years: https://www.harborfreight.com/38-in-Close-Quarters-Reversible-Drill-With-Keyless-Chuck-63119.html and had good service using bought and home made sanding mandrels. https://www.amazon.com/Sanding-Mandrel-Mandrels-Turners-Surfaces/dp/B000H5LY12/ref=asc_df_B000H5LY12/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309811990469&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=816897920046035399&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9010332&hvtargid=pla-568579084013&psc=1

When I asked too much of the drill and broke the gear I bought another, It had light use and started sparking at the brushes within 6 months. Look at what is available locally and hold it, while thinking how it would sand the inside of a bowl.

If you really like the Merlin, consider just the tool and specific accessories that you immediately need.

NeilS
29th May 2019, 11:10 AM
I've used various components of the Arbortech kit, which works OK.

https://www.justtools.com.au/brands/arbortech/

hughie
7th June 2019, 09:45 PM
I've been watching a few videos that show people sanding their works with power sanders using small velcro type 2"-3" discs.

But where do you find one?

I have a passive Robert Sorby sanding pad on a stick that you hold against the work as it spins, but think a powered version may be better. I removed the disc section from my Robert Sorby and placed it into my cordless drill, and while it worked, it wasn't particularly effective due to the relative slow speed of the cordless drill.

I have thought about buying one of those small pneumatic sanders that range from about $80 on eBay to about $189 for a 2" Shimano Roloc at Adelaide Tools as I have a compressor quite close by.

So the questions are:
1. Does anyone have a pneumatic sander or would (or would not) recommend this option?
2. Are there any suitable 2" powered sanders out there, and where?
3. Or give up and just sand by hand?


try here https://mcjing.com.au/categorybrowser.aspx?categoryid=67