Friday lunch prattle

[lyricnz]

Poll - what is good size for outfeed/assembly table?

1. Full sheet (2.4 x 1.2)
2. Shorter (~2 x 1.2)
3. Smaller (~2 x 0.9)
4. Other?

I guess I'd like to have enough space to feed a full sheet into the saw, and out the other side, which means 2.4 (in) + 1.0 (saw) + 2.4 (out) = ~5.8 ish. With a row of machines against one wall, that's pretty much the width of my shed.

[lyricnz]

I guess it should be the same width as my table saw (since it will spend 90% of the time butted up against it), and at least half a sheet of ply (say 5/8) long so I can push through and not have it tip off the far side. Say 1.8x1.2?

[labr@]

I suspect that nobody has made suggestions because it all depends on the type of work you do most often.
Here are a few thoughts that may or may not help.

For many of us space would be a major consideration but that is probably not so critical in your case, although you don't want to waste space either

One approach would be to work out what you would need as a minimum for most of the work you do and then add some capacity for expansion to cope with occasional full sheets or whatever else might be larger. That could be things such as foldable benches or gate leg extensions hanging off the permanent table.

Of course there is a trade off here because the expansion equipment will take time to set up. For this reason I would favour gate leg extensions on both in and outfeed tables as I think they would be quicker and easier to set up. They would also be more stable since they would be connected to the tables.

[doug3030]

It really is a problem that requires an individual solution.

For me, I have a Triton wc2000 with the maxi extension table that will handle a full sheet of ply. After the first cut you aren't dealing with a full sheet of ply any more. Sometimes I position some of my four Triton multistands strategically to handle bits that might otherwise drop. There is also my new height adjustable assembly/infeed/outfeed table which can be used with any machine in the shed.

For me (and I am talking only about me) I find no reason to set up a massive table of a fixed height to catch offcuts from the tablesaw. I would rarely need that with the projects I do and even when it would be handy I can still make do with what I have. I don't find myself in that position often. I have 15m x 6m of floor space and a large, fixed table would kill me.

Within the next few weeks I will be cutting a lot of sheet goods because I will be re-skinning the frame on my box trailer with 4mm bracing ply (1.2m x 3.3m sheet size). I suppose a big outfeed table would come in handy for that but after that job is done it would just be stopping me doing anything else while it is taking up all the space. There's 5 sheets to cut in that job and there's 2 sheets of 12mm ply for some drawers that I can do while I am set up. I can have them cut up in less time than I could build the big outfeed table. And that's probably all the sheetgoods I will be cutting up in the next 3 to 5 years.

[lyricnz]

Agree. Suspect it'll be used more as an assembly table/workbench than an outfeed table.

[doug3030]

Agree. Suspect it'll be used more as an assembly table/workbench than an outfeed table.

In which case I will double down on this part of my previous submission. :wink:


It really is a problem that requires an individual solution.

I'm prepared to discuss my workbench and assembly table choices if you feel it is any help. But I think you have the jist of that already, Simon. But feel free to ask specific questions and I will try to be helpful. My setup and equipment pretty much allows anywhere on the spectrum between full-on handtools and full-on machine working.

[doug3030]

Topic for this week?

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[Bushmiller]

Doug

That's a different sort of chainsaw. Are you attempting to curry favour with Pagie. Or is that the chainsaw that is child safe?

Regards
Paul

[doug3030]

That's a different sort of chainsaw. Are you attempting to curry favour with Pagie. Or is that the chainsaw that is child safe?

Maybe I just wanted to get the "C" word out of the way before we start. :rolleyes:

[Bushmiller]

Well,

In passing I mentioned I had rescued some second grade pine (Bob was kind enough to point out that this may be tautology :wink: ) from the rubbish dump at work. So it thought I might take the opportunity to document the new lawn locker. Unfortunately, the lawn locker doesn't really stack up compared to Simon's shed (https://www.woodworkforums.com/f245/simons-shed-243338) and fitting out and does not really warrant a thread of it's own, so in a rather limp effort to steal some of the glory, here goes.

First up, the lawn locker which started out life as this cage

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The interior steel and floor steel were gutted and used to create a skillion roof and additional horizontal bracing. The slab is the only concession to sophistication. It is under the plastic: Really.

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It now looks like this, but needs a second coat of paint and then the door and flashing components can be highlighted in black just to tart it up a bit.

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A neighbour spotted what I was up to and asked if I wanted a window. So the lawn locker has a window.

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So to the rescued timber: Crates primarily. Trailer is 12' x 5' (Matt: that's 3600mm x 1500mm) to give some idea of quantity.

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Lots of nails of course. Probably about three kilos. The only saving grace of the pine is that de-nailing is quite easy.

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I had thought that the boards were the best looking prospects but ironically the long bearers one of the crates sat on were more likely the pick. There were five of these and as it happened that coincided with five studs on the only vacant wall in the LL. I took it as an omen and started building some racking to support my wooden treasures.
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These are some of the components with one frame assembled on the right ( without braces). In amongst the sizes were a mile of 70 x 35 and that formed the rails.

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It is all a bit simple tending to crude but it serves the purpose. I had intended to take some pix of the bare racks (no, not those sort of racks :rolleyes: ), but I couldn't locate the camera. As I put the last board in place and climbed into the ute I saw the camera sitting in the console!!

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The frames had to accommodate my buckets of offcuts beneath so that dictated the height of the first "shelf" and the square frame is for any really heavy timbers: Not that the pine is really heavy.

Regards
Paul

[Simplicity]

Paul,

That’s looking very tidy and orderly, that’s mighty impressive,and thank you for bringing the older community here up too standard with a metric conversion.[emoji6]


Cheers Matt.

[Bushmiller]

Paul,

thank you for bringing the older community here up too standard with a metric conversion.[emoji6]


Cheers Matt.

Matt

Don't mention it: Always happy to help out with modern technology.

:D

Regards
Paul

[Bushmiller]

I can only put in a brief appearance today ( cameo? :D ) as I have my booster shot at 1130 our time (1230 EST). I do have a question about axes though. Is anybody familiar with the HB (Hults Bruk) brand from Sweden? I have a 4½lb (2kg) version, which I think may be a racing or competition model, which I am about to restore and re-handle.

Regards
Paul

[lyricnz]

The (too big) casters mentioned today 4 X 1000kg Heavy Duty Retractable Leveling Swivel Castor Wheels Furniture Caster | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/133956640067)

I need some about 2/3 that size.

[Bushmiller]

I won't be able to make tomorrow's prattle as I am back to work in my state of semi retirement so as I mentioned this last week, here is an exclusive for the Prattle:

This was how the large Hults Bruk axe (4½lbs) I mentioned looked originally:

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I cleaned up the head and fitted a Spotted Gum handle, which came out of a recycled power pole.

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I gave it a light coat of BLO and it is now ready to perform serious damage.

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Regards
Paul

[labr@]

.... fitted a Spotted Gum handle, which came out of a recycled power pole.

Regards
Paul

Which makes me wonder how you cut down the power pole without a handle for the axe :D.

I guess it's something for the rest of us to speculate on tomorrow.

[Bushmiller]

Bob

Let me know what you come up with. :wink:

Regards
Paul

[doug3030]

I have a fair bit that I have to get through tomorrow so if I make it, I make it.

If not feel free to speculate about how Paul chopped down the power pole without me.

[Pagie]

I won't be able to come tomorrow either as I will be cutting logs up, down in Gippsland. Two saw job.

[Aussiephil]

Hi all,

We had discussions on sheds and particle monitors plus general chin wag, nice to catch up again.
I showed off the little one I had, it serves to get a reasonable idea
There are many Ebay/Aliexpress vendors selling them, this is just one link, they have gone up a little from when i ordered.
Car PM2.5 Detector Tester Air Quality PM1.0 PM10 AQI Particle Matter Monitor LCD Home Gas Thermometer Temperature Humidity Meter|Gas Analyzers| - AliExpress (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001042504006.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.67fbb385zWLa2s&algo_pvid=76029bcf-983a-4a68-8755-1158f3f1d417&algo_exp_id=76029bcf-983a-4a68-8755-1158f3f1d417-0&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2210000013715208787%22%7D&pdp_pi=-1%3B56.8%3B-1%3B-1%40salePrice%3BAUD%3Bsearch-mainSearch)

and for Simon here is a better photo of the shed i was talking about. It is 24x12x5 meters
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Cheers
Phil

[doug3030]

and for Simon here is a better photo of the shed i was talking about. It is 24x12x5 meters
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Is that measurement along the inside or the outside curve? :D

[labr@]

Is that measurement along the inside or the outside curve? :D

I wondered what the hell you were talking about until I looked at the photo - aha!

Good to see Phil still alive and kicking and the dust discussion was of particular interest - I want to improve my dust control and got some good ideas from today's session.

[BobL]

Hi all,

We had discussions on sheds and particle monitors plus general chin wag, nice to catch up again.
I showed off the little one I had, it serves to get a reasonable idea
There are many Ebay/Aliexpress vendors selling them, this is just one link, they have gone up a little from when i ordered.
Car PM2.5 Detector Tester Air Quality PM1.0 PM10 AQI Particle Matter Monitor LCD Home Gas Thermometer Temperature Humidity Meter|Gas Analyzers| - AliExpress (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001042504006.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.67fbb385zWLa2s&algo_pvid=76029bcf-983a-4a68-8755-1158f3f1d417&algo_exp_id=76029bcf-983a-4a68-8755-1158f3f1d417-0&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2210000013715208787%22%7D&pdp_pi=-1%3B56.8%3B-1%3B-1%40salePrice%3BAUD%3Bsearch-mainSearch)


I've got one of those dust monitors and have had it for almost 4 years.
I did a review of it back when I first got it
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f200/developments-dust-sensor-tech-214381/10#post2091861
The review is post # 143 in that thread.

Since then, apart from when I visit mens sheds where I bring it along as an example of a budget level monitor, it lives in our kitchen where it monitors SWMBO cooking dust.

A couple of follow up things with those meters.

The little button on the side that toggles the 2 display formats is quite fragile and liable to just come away when being pushed normally. If you can find the button :), it can be soldered back on. If not, any momentary switch or even a bit of metal across the soldered terminals will switch the display. I thought this was just me being ham fisted but its happened to at least two others that I know about.

They don't bounce very well. A mate of mine had his for about 3 weeks and he dropped it from bench height onto a concrete floor and it stopped working unfortunately he had thrown it away and I was not able to look at where it might have been damaged.

Mine ran normally - like I said mostly in the kitchen - and then I took it down the shed for a test run and notice it did not go above about 10 µg/m^3 even though my other meter was reading > 40 µg/m^3. I had a close look and found a tiny spiders web blocking the fan air intake, After clearing that it ran normally.

The other direction these sensors can give false readings at is around zero, ie it doesn't go to zero.
This can happen if it is subjected to high levels of dust whereby the internals of the sensor is contaminated with dust. Every now and then you should put it in a closed room (no air drafts or currents) or in a box and check that it goes to zero. If not, it probably has become contaminated. Blowing very gently into the fan intake may clear the dust but in the case of one the similar Plantower dust sensors in a home made meter I could not clear it and had to replace the sensor.

The particle monitor mentioned in the link above uses a sensor made by a company called Plantower and they claim their sensors have a manufacturers stated "mean lifetime between failures" of about 3 years of continuous use. This means the power to the sensor is left on - eventually I believe the small laser inside eventually dies. I have 5 particle counters with planter sensors and 3 have been continuous running for about 4 years and the only one that has failed was the one that was exposed to too much dust.

Despite it's issues I reckon they are still very useful an certainly better than nothing. If you consistently see >100ug/m^3 on these meters (50 if you are senior with health issues) I would definitely be doing something about it.

[BooY]

Outside of course :P, that sheds mine

[lyricnz]

Is that measurement along the inside or the outside curve? :D

That’s huge!

[Simplicity]

Is there a Friday Chat on today, an are ring ins welcome??.

Cheers Matt.

[doug3030]

Once again, the recipe for workbench/toolhandle finish as passed down to me from my Grandfather. Also works on ironwork, best applied while the metal is hot (not red hot)

1 ltr of Pure Gum Turpentine
1 ltr of BLO
Grate up a block of beeswax about as big as a bar of soap and dissolve it in the mix. Keep adding beeswax until saturated.

Stir/shake vigorously before applying. Apply thickly, wipe off/spread any excess after 24 hours. Reapply as needed

Tip for a happy life - If you take the grater from the kitchen buy her a new one. Keep the old one in the shed, it will come in handy.

[labr@]

BooY, we noticed that you were logged in to the zoom meeting yesterday but there was a symbol instead of video of you and we could not hear you. Could you hear and see us?
Zoom can take a bit of fiddling to get going right.

[BooY]

Hey, yeh sorry about that kids played with the mic and had it flicked off to the internal monitor instead of the proper mic and didnt work it out until i went into another zoom later snd thry could barely hear me. I didn't have the webcam on me for the comp which is why it was an icon. I could hear and see you guys fine.

I came in late as I was trying to find the room details as there's few different ones on the 1st few pages

[doug3030]

Hi all, I have made a post that can hopefully be made into a sticky with the Friday and Sunday online meetings links in it so that they are easy to find instead of being hidden in long threads, This might help prospective new attendees find the right link to log into as well.

https://www.woodworkforums.com/f303/links-forum-zoom-skype-meetings-246146#post2272714

[doug3030]

I won't be able to participate today.

I have another appointment.

[labr@]

Will anyone be at the prattle this week?

- - - Updated - - -

Will anyone be at the prattle this week?

[doug3030]

That's a big "maybe" for me. I'll try to be there but no guarantees.

[Pagie]

Should be there.

[Bushmiller]

Sorry, Working.

Regards
Paul

[Pagie]

Will anyone be there?

[lyricnz]

Sorry I've missed the last few. But the couple before that there was only a couple of people? We seem to be dwindling.

[doug3030]

we have two of us here right now.

[lyricnz]

We ended up having a good chat today.

The topic for next week - bandsaws. Setup & tuning, usage, accessories, blades, etc.

[labr@]

My desktop pc has been out of action (in for repair) for the last 4 or 5 fridays :~ but when (if) I get it back then I'll be interested in joining future chats.

[doug3030]

A couple of people today seemed to indicate that they were having difficulties making it on a Friday.

Friday is possibly not the best day for me either.

Just putting it out there - might changing the day inject some fresh life into the meeting?

[doug3030]

Here's the videos I mentioned today for Lance:

Stumpy Nubs carving with templates.

How to carve a portrait into wood from a photograph (+ Arbortech Power Chisel review) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiPy0Rj-JNY)

Anyone can power-carve in wood! (Carving a folk-art eagle with the Arbortech mini-grinder) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qiw62i8yf6I)


And a link to some info about the Foredom tool I mentioned, which is like a Dremel on steroids. Once you try one of these you won't want to use a Dremel again.

General information about Foredom tools

FOREDOM | Quality & Service Since 1922 (https://www.foredom.net/)

They sell them in various package deals such as jewellery makers, wood carvers etc.

This is the wood carver package I have.

Foredom Woodcarving Kit, 230 Volt - My Tool Store (https://www.mytoolstore.com.au/products/Foredom-Woodcarving-Kit%2C-230-Volt-.html)

I hope you enjoy them.

And I might as well post the video I mentioned about making your own branding iron for a maker's mark.

Making a branding iron - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8Ou_7Des4I)

This comes from Torbjörn Åhman (https://www.youtube.com/c/torbjornahman)'s youtube channel. It's well worth a look if you haven't discovered it already.

[doug3030]

One for Pagie -

Would you think this would be a good investment?

VEVOR VEVOR Chainsaw Mill For Saws Wood Cutting 14"-36" Bar Woodwork Carpentry | VEVOR AU (https://www.vevor.com.au/chainsaw-mill-c_10962/brand-new-chainsaw-mill-suits-up-to-a-36-bar-wood-cutting-woodwork-carpentry-p_010191970187)

[Pagie]

Looks good, Can't see if well made or not, but should be ok.

[Bushmiller]

It does look good, but there was reference in the comments about "rails." I presume this is a ladder/board equivalent, which provides reference for the first cut, but I could not find this item. Was anybody able to see that? Not having to drill the bar to hold the saw is good as long as the jig doesn't move and the nose sprocket (if the bar has one) is not compromised.

Regards
Paul

[BobL]

One for Pagie -

Would you think this would be a good investment?

VEVOR VEVOR Chainsaw Mill For Saws Wood Cutting 14"-36" Bar Woodwork Carpentry | VEVOR AU (https://www.vevor.com.au/chainsaw-mill-c_10962/brand-new-chainsaw-mill-suits-up-to-a-36-bar-wood-cutting-woodwork-carpentry-p_010191970187)

The tubing looks on the light side. Even with the bolts tightened hard with br and chain oil flying around one good push might see the bar and chain collide with the bar clamp bolts.

Its actually better to ditch the bottom bar clamps altogether, drill the bar and bolt thru the bar to the upper clamp. That was you can replace teh chain without having to remove the saw from the mill.

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[BobL]

It does look good, but there was reference in the comments about "rails." I presume this is a ladder/board equivalent, which provides reference for the first cut, but I could not find this item. Was anybody able to see that? Not having to drill the bar to hold the saw is good as long as the jig doesn't move and the nose sprocket (if the bar has one) is not compromised.

There are many ways to attach the mill to the bar nose.
#8 is the one that allows you to take the chain off the bar without removing the saw from the mill.
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In most cases it's possible to drill right through the middle of the bar nose bearing - the middle is a fixed very hard steel disc that needs a carbide tipped drill bit - A touched up masonry bit works but be prepare for it to disintegrate.

[doug3030]

Thanks for everyone's input. The item came up in an email I got from Vevor. I have bought a few items from them in the past which have been of surprisingly good quality for the price.

My chainsaw has a 15" bar so I probably wouldn't get much more of a slabbing capability than I can get with my 21" bandsaw and although it is tempting to get one of those mills at that price I really don't want to invest in another chainsaw. I'm not getting any younger and my back is not getting any better.

[BobL]

Thanks for everyone's input. The item came up in an email I got from Vevor. I have bought a few items from them in the past which have been of surprisingly good quality for the price.

My chainsaw has a 15" bar so I probably wouldn't get much more of a slabbing capability than I can get with my 21" bandsaw and although it is tempting to get one of those mills at that price I really don't want to invest in another chainsaw. I'm not getting any younger and my back is not getting any better.

A 15" bar loses ~6" of cut on those mills so the largest diameter log you could tackle without substantial repeated log turning is 9"

There are mill designs (one ended minimills) that reduce that to 2.5" shorter than the bar so that would give you a 12.5" diam cut but how many CC and what make is the saw. Anything less than ~50cc is going kill most saws.

Bear in mind that a 300mm diameter hardwood log about 2m log weighs around 140 kg - Muscling that through a large upright BS is not easy and fraught with danger. It's far easier to split logs in half or 1/4s and then put the smaller pieces through the BS. Just using a CSM to mill a couple of flats on the log makes it a lot easier on a BS.

I use my small milling rig (25" bar/72cc saw) to break up even 20-30 kg logs. It's a lot safer an easier than using an upright BS.
This is Banksia. The rig can handle logs up to 1.5m long
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My cross over point is about 15kg /700mm long logs and then I use my BS sled.
This is Pistachio.
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[Pagie]

You can cut planks from a log with a small chainsaw like Advoko Makes does using a small saw. This guy does some great plank making. I have tried it and found iy works well. You cut with the tip of the bar only. Yes the rails are normally a ladder.

[doug3030]

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c04faecc876b0027ce3ca62d78aa237f-lq

[BobL]

In 1972 I, together with about half a dozen other student teachers, were sent for the first time to 2 weeks teaching practice at a local "boganish" primary school. I rocked up on a motor bike, leather jacket, with long hair and beard. Because one of the grade one teachers was crook the headmaster while addressing the student teacher group said, "Right, you lot in turns will be supervising that teacher's grade one class for today". I was up first up and after chasing some of the monsters around the playground for a bit I managed to get them inside the classroom and sitting down. I explained what was going on and then asked "Any questions?" one kid shot up his and and said "Are you the cookie monster?" Well that was it, the rest of the kids chanted "Cookie monster" for about 5 minutes and when I tried yelling they just did it more. I developed a lot of respect from grade one teachers after that :)

[labr@]

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c04faecc876b0027ce3ca62d78aa237f-lq

So.... you're onto me :C

[labr@]

Mystery structure on cliff over the Main river in Germany.
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[doug3030]

Here's a picture of the Tambour topped box I was talking about today.

This is an internet image since I haven't actually made mine yet and mine will be a little different but this is the general idea.

https://www.rockler.com/media/wysiwyg/Learn/tips-tricks-and-faq/tambour-topped-box.jpg

[labr@]

I'll not be prattling this week but should here next time.

Doug, that box shares some features with my cubism challenge entry.

[labr@]

Doug and Pagie, the zoom meeting ended for me with about 3 or 4 minutes left on the timer. Second time this has happened to me - did it do the same to you?

[Pagie]

It finished about the same for me too. We could always use Skype or FaceTime.

[doug3030]

Yes there was still time left according to the timer, but I looked at the clock and it was exactly 12:40, which is the scheduled time to finish. I know sometimes it has started counting from the time the third person joins the discussion, which would have meant the time started about when Bob joined today. I have also seen a message at the end of chats sometimes saying the session was terminated because the host had not shown up.

I think they may have tweaked the settings on Zoom and maybe now the meetings just end at the scheduled time. Who knows?

[lyricnz]

Joined the zoom link, for the first time in ages, nobody in?

[doug3030]

Joined the zoom link, for the first time in ages, nobody in?

Hi Simon, Sorry I didn't make it today. I got called away on a family issue. My partner's mum has been acting like a goose so we had to do a quick trip up to Benalla. I just got home five minutes ago. We have been getting 3 to 4 people on for the Friday session lately so an extra would have been nice. Not sure where everyone else went today.

[Bushmiller]

Not sure where everyone else went today.

Working!

:(

Regards
Paul

[labr@]

Managed to have a few minutes chat with Simon but then my grandson arrived a bit earlier than expected so had to go. Should be there next week.

[Pagie]

yes sorry I had to go help some people.

[doug3030]

Bob, Sorry it seemed like a lost cause today with the internet problems. Hopefully you will have it working next week.

[labr@]

No worries Doug, that last restart took ages for each screen so it was only getting worse. Have a good week.

[labr@]

Was chopped off unexpectedly again today - zoom showed about 25 minutes left but then closed the meeting for me and said it was ended. Probably won't make it next week.

[doug3030]

Was chopped off unexpectedly again today - zoom showed about 25 minutes left but then closed the meeting for me and said it was ended. Probably won't make it next week.

We got disconnected at pretty much spot on 12:40, which is supposed to be the finish time, so that is probably to be expected. See you next time you call in, Bob. thanks for joining us.

[yvan]

Is the Friday prattle still scheduled between 12 & 12.40/45pm?
Gave it a try at 12noon yesterday but was on me own for a few minutes.
Switched off thinking that the time slot may have changed.
Probably too impatient....

Cheers,
Yvan

[doug3030]

Is the Friday prattle still scheduled between 12 & 12.40/45pm?
Gave it a try at 12noon yesterday but was on me own for a few minutes.
Switched off thinking that the time slot may have changed.
Probably too impatient....

Cheers,
Yvan

Hi Yvan,

As far as I know the scheduled times are starting at 12:00 and ending at 12:40.

We had three participants yesterday.

When I logged in at 12:03, Simon was already there. It was just the two of us until about 12:25, when Bob joined us. The system disconnected us at 12:40 as it has been doing for a few months now. Way back when we started in 2020 we worked out that the system used to give us 40 minutes from the time that the third person logged in. It doesn't seem to do that any more so it ends at 12:40 regardless of what any "time left" clocks on the screen say.

Yvan, you probably missed us by seconds.

[yvan]

Thanks Doug.

As I said, too blooming impatient....

Cheers,
Yvan

[labr@]

This is the small scraper plane discussed today.
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[labr@]

I won't be there this week due to "taxi" duty.

[labr@]

Can't make it today, hopefully back next week.

[doug3030]

Simon,

Here's the links to the videos we spoke about today. Parts 1 and 2

Paul Sellers | Dovetail Technique - Part 1 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wkw39o_3MQ)

Paul Sellers | Dovetail Technique - Part 2 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qBscqeDOQY)

[lyricnz]

I joined, for the first time in a while, but I was solo. Has the Friday prattle died?

[labr@]

It's just been Doug and I for the last few weeks and Doug was not going to be there this week so I did the weekly shopping instead. If I'd known you were going to join I would have done the shopping later. If you can make it next week let us know - it would be good to catch up.

[Pagie]

It was Xmas, be more next week. Maybe.

[Pagie]

There is the sunday chat on Skype at 19:30

[doug3030]

As Bob said, Iwas away on Frday. Iwill be away from home for a bit over two weeks in total, so my appearance on forum video chats is unpredictable but not impossible. If time and other commitments permit and I have a reliable wifi connection Imay join in.

If I'm not there feel free to start without me.

[labr@]

I won't be there this week due to having to go out to lunch.
It's a hard life :D.

[A Duke]

Hi,
Like one year and a day!
Regards