Challenge 2020-2021 CKlett - Scraper Plane

[Cklett]

Hi,

I had bought a Veritas scraper plane blade a while back for my Stanley 12 1/2. But it is just a hair too thick for it, so I decided to build my own scraper plane around it. Hence my queries about the pine. It does not necessarily scrape well.....

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After some research and seeking inspiration on the web to what style and look I might like. In light of to maximise the challenge for me I decided to make a dovetailed infill version. And I will try to come up with a way to also incorporate the blade tilting functionality of the Stanley 112 plane. For the mechanism I have already some thoughts and will follow them up with some mock-ups and prototypes to make sure it can work.

Anyway, here is a first concept drawing. Dimensions and proportions are not fixed. It is just a starting point and I am sure it will still change and evolve.

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Also not sure if I will make the sides curved like a coffin style or keep them straight. The latter would be easier, but then again this is a challenge.....
I might also build another plane in parallel I have in my head to practise some of the techniques further.

At least I do not have to worry about mouth opening on this one :D

[Mountain Ash]

I'd say that is challenge well and truly accepted CK! I'm starting to feel like I'm aiming too low :rolleyes:.

[Cklett]

My worry is that I might be aiming too high. It reminds me a bit of these cooking competition shows. There is always a team who think they can make a slow cooked roast in 60 minutes. They get something on the plate, but it is not that great. And sometimes doing something more simple and executed properly could have been the better choice.

I hope I am not one of these teams :rolleyes:

[doug3030]

It reminds me a bit of these cooking competition shows. There is always a team who think they can make a slow cooked roast in 60 minutes. They get something on the plate, but it is not that great. And sometimes doing something more simple and executed properly could have been the better choice.

Cklett, with 198 days to go you can slow-cook that plane all you like.

[Mountain Ash]

Doug, stop counting the days, it's putting the pressure on :p

[doug3030]

Doug, stop counting the days, it's putting the pressure on :p

I was going to see if they could put a day counter in the banner announcement. :rolleyes:

[Simplicity]

I was going to see if they could put a day counter in the banner announcement. :rolleyes:

You mean like a death clock,
We don’t need that added pressure lol.

Cheers Matt

[Pagie]

The counter sounds like a good idea. I think we should have an extra prize for the quickest plane built. people have 3d printers and metal working tools. Can I just make a simple wooden plane?

[Mountain Ash]

I hope so.........

[Oldgreybeard]

The counter sounds like a good idea. I think we should have an extra prize for the quickest plane built. people have 3d printers and metal working tools. Can I just make a simple wooden plane?

Pagie, not to sure about an extra prize, but we will be looking for donations in a few months

A simple plain ?? It can be as simple or as complex as you like - mine will be simple.

Cklett, If you are still concerned about using pine, I have a simple solution - submit images of 2 shavings- 1 1 using pine and the other could be any timber of your choice.

Bob

[Pagie]

Or I could sell you a shaving.

[Cklett]

Finally I got to do a bit more on planning my design.

I decided to start with the frog and lever cap. For that I copied the parts from my Stanley 12 1/2 on some cardboard to get dimensions which work. I might still change the top shape.

The frog I make out of steel and the lever cap shall be brass.

A few details to think about. The majority of the frog is 6mm thick but wherever it is connected to the plane body, lever cap and adjustment bolt it is about 15mm thick. The original is cast. I will have to use rolled mild steel. No mill so I cannot start with a 15mm thick blank. Unless I decide to use a 15mm thick frog all around, which might become heavy.

Alternatively I can use a 6mm blank and habe to weld some pieces on where I need more material. Or come up with a bolted design.


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200912/fc7ef8e8dfdd04fd92e3f87f6f2c2926.jpg

Next week I will go and get some material.

Cheers



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[Simplicity]

Finally I got to do a bit more on planning my design.

I decided to start with the frog and lever cap. For that I copied the parts from my Stanley 12 1/2 on some cardboard to get dimensions which work. I might still change the top shape.

The frog I make out of steel and the lever cap shall be brass.

A few details to think about. The majority of the frog is 6mm thick but wherever it is connected to the plane body, lever cap and adjustment bolt it is about 15mm thick. The original is cast. I will have to use rolled mild steel. No mill so I cannot start with a 15mm thick blank. Unless I decide to use a 15mm thick frog all around, which might become heavy.

Alternatively I can use a 6mm blank and habe to weld some pieces on where I need more material. Or come up with a bolted design.


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200912/fc7ef8e8dfdd04fd92e3f87f6f2c2926.jpg

Next week I will go and get some material.

Cheers



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Another option for joining metal is solid rivets,
I did that on my plain iron for my mitre build.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200912/31927df4453344a826e858a06ce74e09.jpg

It’s really not that complicated, just drill through both pieces of metal clamped together, I use a three mm hole,put a small countersink on both faces.
I then use a 3 mm bright nail cut to be about 2 mm longer either side of each face.
Push the rivet through(Cut down nail)
And peen one side then the other, and repeat.
I find after one or two rounds of peening to file then flat but still proud an peen again then file flush.
Have a go on some scrap first,

It’s more complicated to explain it then to do it.
It will take a keen eye to see the rivets once finished.

Cheers Matt.

[doug3030]

It will take a keen eye to see the rivets once finished.

I can vouch for that - I thought that it may have been soldered on, and had to ask, as I am heat treating Matt's blade fo rhim and did not want to have it come apart in the forge. They really are hard to see.

[Cklett]

Thanks guys. I decided I will first go for chunky and use 12mm thick steel for the frog. If I don't like it or gets too heavy I will go for the riveted version.

Also I have now enough material together to start.

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You see two blades. That's because I plan to build a scrub plane in parallel. That's going to be my practise plane for dovetailing and infill.

So I will first practise on some scrap, then the scrub plane and then the competition plane ;-)

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[Simplicity]

Thanks guys. I decided I will first go for chunky and use 12mm thick steel for the frog. If I don't like it or gets too heavy I will go for the riveted version.

Also I have now enough material together to start.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200914/013148033bf81e0dae4373a8a85edef6.jpg

You see two blades. That's because I plan to build a scrub plane in parallel. That's going to be my practise plane for dovetailing and infill.

So I will first practise on some scrap, then the scrub plane and then the competition plane ;-)

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Cklett,
You look your all set,
Have you done any sketches,or are you just going to jump in.

Cheers Matt.

[Cklett]

Cklett,
You look your all set,
Have you done any sketches,or are you just going to jump in.

Cheers Matt.Funny you ask that. I was pondering if I should already reveal my game plan or not. But in the spirit that we should also share our thinking here it goes.

Yes, I made some sketches several and now to scale. Including one for the scrub.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200914/cc5df2e276190129b695c6cbcb9f672e.jpg

I then normally make copies so I can cut them into templates.

This one is my current design I am 95% sure it's going to work.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200914/a293f5df7260e919ee4871c5a7ea24eb.jpg

I want to make a closed tote and have the sole short. That makes it difficult to use the double nut design for the adjuster. Therefore I replace one nut with a spring which will be mainly concealed in the infill.

Also to have a short sole I plan to have the tote hanging over the back.

Now I have given everything I've got so far :-D



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[Simplicity]

Funny you ask that. I was pondering if I should already reveal my game plan or not. But in the spirit that we should also share our thinking here it goes.

Yes, I made some sketches several and now to scale. Including one for the scrub.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200914/cc5df2e276190129b695c6cbcb9f672e.jpg

I then normally make copies so I can cut them into templates.

This one is my current design I am 95% sure it's going to work.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200914/a293f5df7260e919ee4871c5a7ea24eb.jpg

I want to make a closed tote and have the sole short. That makes it difficult to use the double nut design for the adjuster. Therefore I replace one nut with a spring which will be mainly concealed in the infill.

Also to have a short sole I plan to have the tote hanging over the back.

Now I have given everything I've got so far :-D



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Your sketches look good to me,but then I’m the competition, and more importantly I’ve never owned or touched a scrapping plane,so I wouldn’t worry to much there.

What is thinking behind having a short soul??

Cheers Matt.

[Cklett]

I had a look at some examples. The Stanley 80 and 12 for example are very short. The 112 and Lie Nielson and Veritas are about 250mm long.

My interpretation is that shorter is better in order to ride through any valley to deal with local tear out. That's why the Stanley 80 and even the 12 have the handles on the side. But not as comfy as a tote and front knob. But they need space and maybe that's why the others a longer.

Therefore I am aiming for in between. To give the wood a good finish but not to flatten it or so.

Not sure if that makes sense and I might be completely wrong or am missing something. But that's my current thinking....

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[Mountain Ash]

Great drawings CK. Don't worry about sharing, all you have done is intimidate the competition :oo:.

[Cklett]

This weekend my plan is to prep the metal stock. Sanding it flat and squaring off, etc.

I also want to lay out the dovetails. But I still have to do some more research on the logic behind them. Like how many? How long? What spacing? I have not found a guideline yet. Maybe I still need to look at some more to figure out how I want to do that.

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[Simplicity]

This weekend my plan is to prep the metal stock. Sanding it flat and squaring off, etc.

I also want to lay out the dovetails. But I still have to do some more research on the logic behind them. Like how many? How long? What spacing? I have not found a guideline yet. Maybe I still need to look at some more to figure out how I want to do that.

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Cklett,

I think the only “rule” that I came across, and Ian W put me on to it, was a decent size Tail around the mouth area.
Go to Auntie Google for help,

Infill Plane imagines.

That’s what I’ve been doing,I think most Plane makers go for what they think looks good!.

Cheers Matt.

[Cklett]

Cklett,

I think the only “rule” that I came across, and Ian W put me on to it, was a decent size Tail around the mouth area.
Go to Auntie Google for help,

Infill Plane imagines.

That’s what I’ve been doing,I think most Plane makers go for what they think looks good!.

Cheers Matt.


Yes, the mouth criteria I saw and understand. In my case I am also not going to split the sole. In both cases, scrub plane and scraper plane, I do not need a fine mouth. So I think I can easily drill and file out the mouth.

But then I see that some do small.... Hang on?! While I was writing this I got distracted by a picture on google, and now it doesn't matter any more. The picture has exactly the lay out I think fits perfect for the practise scrub plane. So never mind.....:D

[Cklett]

After the planning stage, I have now officially started putting the plans into action.

Working on the frog now...

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[Cklett]

Didn't get as far ad I wanted today.

I could only fit one bracket for the lever cap onto the frog. I am aiming to partly dovetail them in and further secure with a cross pin which will also hold the adjuster bolt. I will peen the metal together and sand it flat later. I think it's going to look good when done.

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Still need to organise a table cloth for the foto shoots. Wasn't that also a criteria? I forgot....

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[Ironwood]

Still need to organise a table cloth for the foto shoots. Wasn't that also a criteria? I forgot....

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Yeah, I think Matt made sure there was points lost for no tablecloth, I have ordered one and it’s coming in the mail , just hope it gets here in time before the judging starts.

[Simplicity]

Yeah, I think Matt made sure there was points lost for no tablecloth, I have ordered one and it’s coming in the mail , just hope it gets here in time before the judging starts.



Ye we have vintage table cloths available for very reasonable rental or purchase.
Also happy to do a lay by arrangement if needed.

Cheers Matt.
Pm for my Swiss Bank account details.

[banjopicks]

Can't wait to see the process pictures. I don't have the guts to try this yet but it's on my bucket list. Many thanks for going this route.

[Cklett]

My frog has ears now. But it's still not listening.....

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I marked/stamped the joints to jot mix them up where and how they fit.

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Next is drilling and filing a square hole in the middle where the adjuster assembly will connect.

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[Simplicity]

My frog has ears now. But it's still not listening.....

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200922/f01120f1872b13cdc11c9014807ef25e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200922/80ae7754703a6418cc7e4d6b681eb03a.jpg

I marked/stamped the joints to jot mix them up where and how they fit.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200922/ea7e7c83aaa74516951fa28f505c4912.jpg

Next is drilling and filing a square hole in the middle where the adjuster assembly will connect.

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I’m fascinated by this one Cklett,
It seems most are doing bench planes of some sort,
Including me!

This is really stepping out, well impressed.

Cheers Matt.

[Cklett]

Not sure how impressive the end result will be.
I am giving it my best shot and and am mentally prepared to have to redo parts again to get them right.

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[Cklett]

As the rules say, that we can only use what we have in our workshop, all my drilling is done by my "Lazarus Drill" (named by IanW).

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It is real fun and a good work out. But as the base flexes a bit I had to do a few test drills to be able to predict which way it would deviate.

I think I got sufficient accuracy out of it. I had to drill the hole for the cross pin from both sides and they met within good enough precision to get a brass dowel through everything.

So slowly the frog takes more shape. Still quite crude and a bit of tuning required.

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Soon I can start making it look pretty. Definately needs some curves....

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[Simplicity]

As the rules say, that we can only use what we have in our workshop, all my drilling is done by my "Lazarus Drill" (named by IanW).

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200925/5cef20c68c75c516f0d4d6f68d117083.jpg

It is real fun and a good work out. But as the base flexes a bit I had to do a few test drills to be able to predict which way it would deviate.

I think I got sufficient accuracy out of it. I had to drill the hole for the cross pin from both sides and they met within good enough precision to get a brass dowel through everything.

So slowly the frog takes more shape. Still quite crude and a bit of tuning required.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200925/9f0250fc90826380dd6d4fc29cee11c0.jpg
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Soon I can start making it look pretty. Definately needs some curves....

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Cklett,
You look like the only one here who’s getting on with the task at hand.
Seriously impressed with using the Lazarus Drill , too drill with.
Go easy on the curves they can be addictive :).

Cheers Matt.

[Cklett]

Now it looks like my frog wants to give me a hug [emoji16]

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I decided to follow Matt's advice and only put one big curve on it. Not to go overboard.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200926/d353cb9ea788f4e5fe81506b66ccbead.jpg

And on the back a champher across the top. And rounded a few spots over as well as drilling and tapping the holes for the screws to fix it to the body later. And with body I mean the plane body I am going to make and not Matt's plane "The Body" [emoji12]

So far only sanded to 120 grit. Next would be to permanently peen the lever cap brackets in place. But I am a bit nervous about that and will check everything over once more. Now it is still easy to adjust things if needed.

Maybe I will do the lever cap first and see how everything might fit. I will sleep over it.

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[Simplicity]

Now it looks like my frog wants to give me a hug [emoji16]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200926/04d0b60120d850a87469ca4a6d5a9e22.jpg


I decided to follow Matt's advice and only put one big curve on it. Not to go overboard.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200926/d353cb9ea788f4e5fe81506b66ccbead.jpg

And on the back a champher across the top. And rounded a few spots over as well as drilling and tapping the holes for the screws to fix it to the body later. And with body I mean the plane body I am going to make and not Matt's plane "The Body" [emoji12]

So far only sanded to 120 grit. Next would be to permanently peen the lever cap brackets in place. But I am a bit nervous about that and will check everything over once more. Now it is still easy to adjust things if needed.

Maybe I will do the lever cap first and see how everything might fit. I will sleep over it.

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I would be very careful if other forum members are offering advice, they maybe trying to lead you astray,
But I do like a bit of creative file work!!

That’s looking pretty good there,how are you peening the parts together? I think I’ve missed something.

Cheers Matt.

[Cklett]

That’s looking pretty good there,how are you peening the parts together? I think I’ve missed something.

Cheers Matt.

Well, maybe this picture makes that clearer. I champhered the brackets and set them in a dovetail of the frog body. I am planning to peen them into it to give a tight joint from the back. And then I am also thinking peening the cross pin and file flush. That should hold everything nice together. But maybe I just drive the pin in and leave it so that one can still get it out if required.

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[Simplicity]

Well, maybe this picture makes that clearer. I champhered the brackets and set them in a dovetail of the frog body. I am planning to peen them into it to give a tight joint from the back. And then I am also thinking peening the cross pin and file flush. That should hold everything nice together. But maybe I just drive the pin in and leave it so that one can still get it out if required.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200926/4e2fa5aa72ea0d1795b27a8be0028ad6.jpg

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Ok I get it now,I think peening both the brass and the pin would look better,

It looks like you have a good fit with Brass,so it should come together nicely.

Cheers Matt.

[Mountain Ash]

Coming along nicely CK. Great looking drill press too

[Cklett]

Coming along nicely CK. Great looking drill press tooThanks Mountain Ash.

That drill is great. I resurrected it from near death. Hence Ian named it the Lazarus Drill.

https://www.woodworkforums.com/f152/ixion-bench-drill-restoration-230552-post2161900



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[Cklett]

The brackets for the lever cap are now permanently attached. I will just leave the peening of the cross pin until the very last in case I have to make some changes or so.

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Also I further refine some lines. So the level of sanding now is just because I wanted to see how it would turn out. A few little gaps, but I am pretty happy. That was the first time in my life peening. A few miss hits though.

Also started preparing the lever cap.

I weighed my material before and found the beast might turn out to be 3kg. That's a bit on the heavy side I think. The Stanley 112 is just about 1.8kg. I knew I'd be heavier, but am thinking now where I could safe some weight... Keep you posted.

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[Simplicity]

The brackets for the lever cap are now permanently attached. I will just leave the peening of the cross pin until the very last in case I have to make some changes or so.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201001/da5f9cbb66fa96f3f9c9ae9d97c63115.jpg


Also I further refine some lines. So the level of sanding now is just because I wanted to see how it would turn out. A few little gaps, but I am pretty happy. That was the first time in my life peening. A few miss hits though.

Also started preparing the lever cap.

I weighed my material before and found the beast might turn out to be 3kg. That's a bit on the heavy side I think. The Stanley 112 is just about 1.8kg. I knew I'd be heavier, but am thinking now where I could safe some weight... Keep you posted.

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Wow,
Really looking good, should we talk to the “Timber guys” about “Tear out” ,or just if we hear them say about,it go PLEAAAAASSSSSEEEEE.

Cheers Matt,

[Cklett]

Today I was more like tearing my hair out. I made a mistake preparing the brackets fir the lever cap.

Nothing lost, but I have yo make a new lever cap. But looking at Matt's lever cap also gave me inspiration for a new shape. And at same time I try to make it lighter.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201002/e40f33cdb6453f97017d4253dfc764cc.jpg

Still quite some shaping and filing to do. This is the status from tonight.

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[Simplicity]

Today I was more like tearing my hair out. I made a mistake preparing the brackets fir the lever cap.

Nothing lost, but I have yo make a new lever cap. But looking at Matt's lever cap also gave me inspiration for a new shape. And at same time I try to make it lighter.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201002/e40f33cdb6453f97017d4253dfc764cc.jpg

Still quite some shaping and filing to do. This is the status from tonight.

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Cklett.
I feel your pain man.
Lever cap problems seem to be popular around these threads.

Cheers Matt.

[yvan]

Doug, stop counting the days, it's putting the pressure on :p

Sorry to have to tell you this MA but, as at today, there are only 124 of these left !!! :D

[Cklett]

Cklett.
I feel your pain man.
Lever cap problems seem to be popular around these threads.

Cheers Matt.Luckily I had enough material to make a new one. And the first one I can still trim down for the lever cap for the scrub plane.

I just have now the daunting feeling that I had some of that material allocated for something else. I just cannot remember for what....

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[Chief Tiff]

This is starting to look pretty awesome!

[Cklett]

And another days work. I am starting to get into the filing more and feel my patience growing. I agree with Matt, that it becomes a bit Zen like.

Starting to give the lever cap some 3D structure as well.

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However, I hope I don't get disqualified. I had some help from the queen.

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Used a one dollar coin as file guide to get the circular bit right.

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[Simplicity]

An I right in thinking one of your clamps is worth at least $1 Australian dollar lol.
That’s got be worth at least one extra point.

[Oldgreybeard]

Now I have to change my plan again. I was thinking of embedding a coin to give my plane some monetary worth:)

[Ironwood]

Now I have to change my plan again. I was thinking of embedding a coin to give my plane some monetary worth:)
Bob, perhaps you could still keep the gold theme going, and encrust your plane with some of those gold nuggets you Victorians have been hoarding :U.

[Sheets]

However, I hope I don't get disqualified. I had some help from the queen.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201003/fb30f527351833c22ed60fc688fc5528.jpg

Used a one dollar coin as file guide to get the circular bit right.

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I'm sure the Queen would be pleased - and I'm sure She's used to working under pressure.

[Cklett]

My workbench has now officially crossed the threshold from creative chaos to progress inhibiting insanity. But somewhere inbetween you might find a working frog.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201004/a85f4b3f93197ab99dbae30858fe40f8.jpg


Still needs further shaping and refining but everything is together a working. I will write about that a bit more later.

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[Ironwood]

Lookin real good :2tsup:

[Simplicity]

My workbench has now officially crossed the threshold from creative chaos to progress inhibiting insanity. But somewhere inbetween you might find a working frog.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201004/a85f4b3f93197ab99dbae30858fe40f8.jpg


Still needs further shaping and refining but everything is together a working. I will write about that a bit more later.

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Was the transition from Chaos to insanity difficult,I’m asking for a friend.
The frog looks good tho.

Cheers Matt.

[Cklett]

Was the transition from Chaos to insanity difficult,I’m asking for a friend.
The frog looks good tho.

Cheers Matt.That's a very thin line. It only takes a drop of one more tool and you are doomed....

And it's a long way back from there, but I made it....

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[Simplicity]

That's a very thin line. It only takes a drop of one more tool and you are doomed....

And it's a long way back from there, but I made it....

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So In the end you put your toys away, lol.

Cheers Matt.

[Mountain Ash]

That's a very thin line. It only takes a drop of one more tool and you are doomed....

And it's a long way back from there, but I made it....

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Aah, the serenity!

But I prefer the excitement of discovery, finding the tool I'm after buried under shavings :D

[Cklett]

It did not last long.

Out came the tools again and refined the frog and lever cap.

I was tossing a bit between options to fix the lever cap to the frog. I ended up with some kind of M5 grub screws. The threads for the screws arw tapped into the frog brackets and just reach into holes in the side of the lever cap.

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I couldn't tap the lever cap. I only have a tap for through holes and then the hole would have come out on the inside of the cut out I have in the lever cap.

Further I also did not want to use counter sink screws. I felt the heads would be too big for the brackets and wouldn't look right.

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In principle it is ready to get a plane build around it. But I think I will leave it at that for now. The rest will be done when I fit it into the plane body.

However, before I get to that I will build my practise infill scrub plane.

I will start a separate thread for the scrub plane as that one is just for practise. So there would not be much new on this thread for a while.

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[Cklett]

After I finished my practise plane I am getting ready to continue on my challenge plane.

Here is the practise scrub plane which turned out quite ok I would say and made me confident to be able to do the body for the challenge plane.

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https://www.woodworkforums.com/f44/infill-scrub-plane-237726?highlight=Scrub+plane

Now for the challenge plane I got back and relooked at my design.

First I decided to make the sides curved. I think otherwise it'll become too bulky.

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On the other hand I am not sure on the rear handle. I have an option with a closed and one with an open handle.

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Which one would you prefer?

Just note whatever you say I will do the opposite because I know you want to throw me off the winning path. Although now that you know that you might use that and hence I will exactly follow your advise because I know you think that I'll do the opposite.

C..p now you know that too.... So who knows what I am going to do [emoji6]

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[Chief Tiff]

Just note whatever you say I will do the opposite because I know you want to throw me off the winning path. Although now that you know that you might use that and hence I will exactly follow your advise because I know you think that I'll do the opposite.

Obviously this is a blatant attempt to throw us off the scent; I suspect you’re going to mount a pivoting receiver to take a long spar type handle inspired by the Stanley 74
485957

Am I right? Do I win $5? :D

[Cklett]

While I am still not hundred percent set on the final shape at least I started to cut the pins.

Also dressed a.block of wood which I then will shape to get the bend side profiles to be matched against.

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Some progress is still better than no progress.....

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[Simplicity]

While I am still not hundred percent set on the final shape at least I started to cut the pins.

Also dressed a.block of wood which I then will shape to get the bend side profiles to be matched against.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210118/58ec0bebb3b3a7fcf7f4c8fe7a71782a.jpg


Some progress is still better than no progress.....

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Cklett.

I think a fluid design is an excellent idea, the then possibility’s are endless.[emoji6]

Cheers Matt.

[Cklett]

Cklett.

I think a fluid design is an excellent idea, the then possibility’s are endless.[emoji6]

Cheers Matt.Maybe I should then make my plane from a non-Newtonian fluid. So it is liquidy in normal state and once it its the wood becomes rock hard and automatically adjusts it's shape to the workpiece?

There is a thought.... Let me just mix up the cornstarch [emoji12]

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[Simplicity]

Maybe I should then make my plane from a non-Newtonian fluid. So it is liquidy in normal state and once it its the wood becomes rock hard and automatically adjusts it's shape to the workpiece?

There is a thought.... Let me just mix up the cornstarch [emoji12]

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Just give me a second while I finish my Tin foil hat.[emoji6]

Cheers Matt.

[Cklett]

OmG, that was nerve-racking. I went tonight to bend my side profiles. As I could not find a good source on how people go about it I made it up as I went.
First I shaped my big block of wood to the curvature I wanted. Then I sort off made up a sheet metal bending roller type set-up / contraption.

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That involved several blocks of scrap hardwood, clamps and whatever round stock of wood and metal I could find. With that I slowly bent and rolled the profiles by putting little bends along it's length. I was trying to mimic the mechanism of these rolling machines.

I think I got there, but not as nice as Ironwood managed. I think it's ok for my first time and I am glad I did not cut the profiles out yet. Probably wood have had bad kinks then.

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[Simplicity]

OmG, that was nerve-racking. I went tonight to bend my side profiles. As I could not find a good source on how people go about it I made it up as I went.
First I shaped my big block of wood to the curvature I wanted. Then I sort off made up a sheet metal bending roller type set-up / contraption.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210119/5b20d7fafc20f04497868a0d4730543a.jpg

That involved several blocks of scrap hardwood, clamps and whatever round stock of wood and metal I could find. With that I slowly bent and rolled the profiles by putting little bends along it's length. I was trying to mimic the mechanism of these rolling machines.

I think I got there, but not as nice as Ironwood managed. I think it's ok for my first time and I am glad I did not cut the profiles out yet. Probably wood have had bad kinks then.

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Cklett,

I think you have done pretty well, especially since you didn’t have a set of slip rollers, an not a lot of us do.
Using large rolling pins was a good idea.
I’m pretty sure Ian will pop up soon, and I’m pretty sure he uses a two piece bending form?
But remember generally when bending metal it’s reversible most times[emoji6].


Cheers Matt.

[Cklett]

There are probably better ways. I could slowley dial in. The other profile still needs some work, but this one sits probably as good as it gets.

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[Chief Tiff]

For someone who's never bent and bashed metal before this challenge I think you've shown amazing ingenuity with good results :2tsup:

If the wooden former is hard enough AND you can FIRMLY clamp the two ends down you can beat the "corners" into round.

Alternatively... once it's all put together you can round them off on a linisher.

[Picko]

Lookin' good C.

[Mountain Ash]

More ingenuity! I love it

[Cklett]

Hi, after I was happy with my cheeks I used my sophisticated carbon neutral sole flattening set up to prepare the sole piece. I used a piece of steel I got for $2, so it took some time to get it smooth.

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Then cut the pins and started to shape the cheeks towards the target shape. Inbetween I use some card board engineering to check if my design is heading in the right way...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210128/ca736f4170ab5a715693b94fc2834e58.jpg

I can slowley see it coming together.

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[Sheets]

Excellent progress! Looks pretty good.

Steve

[Simplicity]

Hi, after I was happy with my cheeks I used my sophisticated carbon neutral sole flattening set up to prepare the sole piece. I used a piece of steel I got for $2, so it took some time to get it smooth.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210128/f47a13461f5ffd7d573b70f95d57bacb.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210128/3e7b22d3f4f8516007de9f4dc41ba065.jpg

Then cut the pins and started to shape the cheeks towards the target shape. Inbetween I use some card board engineering to check if my design is heading in the right way...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210128/ca736f4170ab5a715693b94fc2834e58.jpg

I can slowley see it coming together.

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Looking very most excellent Picko, going carbon neutral, is that a point winning tactic, or just a political stance.

Also the solo flatting sandpaper was that the stuff from the big green bunnies shed, if so how did you feel the paper went?.

Cheers Matt.

[Picko]

Looking very most excellent Picko, going carbon neutral, is that a point winning tactic, or just a political stance.

Also the solo flatting sandpaper was that the stuff from the big green bunnies shed, if so how did you feel the paper went?.

Cheers Matt.

Thanks Matt, but I had no part in it. I haven't even set foot in Brissy for about 3 years.
Nice work C, lookin good.

[Simplicity]

Thanks Matt, but I had no part in it. I haven't even set foot in Brissy for about 3 years.
Nice work C, lookin good.

Whoops,

Sorry C.

Cheers Matt.

[Cklett]

going carbon neutral, is that a point winning tactic, or just a political stance.

Also the solo flatting sandpaper was that the stuff from the big green bunnies shed, if so how did you feel the paper went?.

Cheers Matt.
Not a political stance. More like being a cheap skate and rather use elbow grease than investing in precision ground steel ;-)

The paper is ok, but after this one sole it is quickly spent. Started with #40, then 60 and only up to 80. I should probably look for some more durable stuff.

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[Simplicity]

Not a political stance. More like being a cheap skate and rather use elbow grease than investing in precision ground steel ;-)

The paper is ok, but after this one sole it is quickly spent. Started with #40, then 60 and only up to 80. I should probably look for some more durable stuff.

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O
I was kind of hoping it was a political stance!.[emoji6]


Cheers Matt.

[Cklett]

O
I was kind of hoping it was a political stance!.[emoji6]


Cheers Matt.I leave any political comment for when I need a major distraction from my plane. E.g. something horribly wrong. I will then break out a big controversy while I quietly fix my stuff up [emoji16]

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[Simplicity]

I leave any political comment for when I need a major distraction from my plane. E.g. something horribly wrong. I will then break out a big controversy while I quietly fix my stuff up [emoji16]

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Now that Sir, is just the kind of behaviour we would almost solemnly endorse hear,
Of course tho I would never be seen personally to 100 percent agree with said behaviour.

Cheers Matt.

[Bushmiller]

I leave any political comment for when I need a major distraction from my plane. E.g. something horribly wrong. I will then break out a big controversy while I quietly fix my stuff up [emoji16]

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CK

You have clearly missed your calling. You are a natural pollie!

:cool:

I am now, as we speak, collating multiple digressions in anticipation of such a need.

:D

Regards
Paul

[Cklett]

I might need a diversion now. Shouldn't have talked about it [emoji6]

I finally peened the body together. Has quite some gaps. I think a rounded body is a bit harder for me. I did not have such a tight fit to begin with and so it was a lot of metal which needed to be moved. All in all it is what it is and will do the job.

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I sanded all down and drilled the holes for the frog. That's where it went south. I measured them twice, but on one side the drill must have wandered. I had to file it out in order to line up.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210131/f57a5d870d320d2dbb1bcc661b5164ef.jpg

Not sure how I will fix that, but I already have an idea.

On the plus side it already took a shaving. A very small shaving though.

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At least I am confident it can work.

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[Simplicity]

I might need a diversion now. Shouldn't have talked about it [emoji6]

I finally peened the body together. Has quite some gaps. I think a rounded body is a bit harder for me. I did not have such a tight fit to begin with and so it was a lot of metal which needed to be moved. All in all it is what it is and will do the job.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210131/f43c35ed04960911cf9fe7a82a25e2f0.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210131/21525fbed7a0fbd403dccebcb6e456bd.jpg

I sanded all down and drilled the holes for the frog. That's where it went south. I measured them twice, but on one side the drill must have wandered. I had to file it out in order to line up.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210131/f57a5d870d320d2dbb1bcc661b5164ef.jpg

Not sure how I will fix that, but I already have an idea.

On the plus side it already took a shaving. A very small shaving though.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210131/aa5c645486bf00fe62a2332a68ad3327.jpg

At least I am confident it can work.

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CK,
I feel the pain, can you put a bigger pin in for the frog, would you also need to adjust the frog pin.
Could you use two larger tapped pins either side?.
Just thinking out loud.

I think your aloud a few diversions now.

But on the plus side it’s working.

Cheers Matt.

[Sheets]

I might need a diversion now. Shouldn't have talked about it [emoji6]

I finally peened the body together. Has quite some gaps. I think a rounded body is a bit harder for me. I did not have such a tight fit to begin with and so it was a lot of metal which needed to be moved. All in all it is what it is and will do the job.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210131/f43c35ed04960911cf9fe7a82a25e2f0.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210131/21525fbed7a0fbd403dccebcb6e456bd.jpg

I sanded all down and drilled the holes for the frog. That's where it went south. I measured them twice, but on one side the drill must have wandered. I had to file it out in order to line up.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210131/f57a5d870d320d2dbb1bcc661b5164ef.jpg

Not sure how I will fix that, but I already have an idea.

On the plus side it already took a shaving. A very small shaving though.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210131/aa5c645486bf00fe62a2332a68ad3327.jpg

At least I am confident it can work.

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So a few small snags - wouldn't be much of a challenge if everything worked according to plan. I think it looks great so far. Always exciting (and a sigh of relief, too) to see a shaving.

[Cklett]

Yep, that's right. It wouldn't be a challenge if it'd be easy and smooth sailing.

Spent some time to fix the pins. Here is what I came up with.

First I drilled a bigger 8mm hole in a piece of steel. I then positioned it where I wanted on the plane body and had everything in the vice. I used the 8mm hole as a file guide so the bigger hole in the plane body would be as round as possible. It worked great because the brass is much softer then the steel so I could feel easily where I needed to take more brass off or have already filed to the steel in the guide and stop there.

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I did it that way because I also had to offset the center of the hole and therefore couldn't just drill it. Some sandpaper around a smaller drill bit in the drill then did the rest to make the new hole round.


Then I made new pins from some M6 bolts. Means I did not need to change the threads in the frog.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210203/68f6dcbebd50269d2e9065b977d4df4e.jpg


For that I first filed the head nearly round in the vice and did the rest of bringing to size in my highly sophisticated mobile lathe [emoji6]

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And now I have this fixed I believe. And I think the bigger pin head suits better to the stout plane body.

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[Bushmiller]

CK

I wondered how you were going to fix that. Good work.

Regards
Paul

[Simplicity]

Yep, that's right. It wouldn't be a challenge if it'd be easy and smooth sailing.

Spent some time to fix the pins. Here is what I came up with.

First I drilled a bigger 8mm hole in a piece of steel. I then positioned it where I wanted on the plane body and had everything in the vice. I used the 8mm hole as a file guide so the bigger hole in the plane body would be as round as possible. It worked great because the brass is much softer then the steel so I could feel easily where I needed to take more brass off or have already filed to the steel in the guide and stop there.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210203/c1b532df52b64bd30c1cb51a1fecfed3.jpg

I did it that way because I also had to offset the center of the hole and therefore couldn't just drill it. Some sandpaper around a smaller drill bit in the drill then did the rest to make the new hole round.


Then I made new pins from some M6 bolts. Means I did not need to change the threads in the frog.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210203/68f6dcbebd50269d2e9065b977d4df4e.jpg


For that I first filed the head nearly round in the vice and did the rest of bringing to size in my highly sophisticated mobile lathe [emoji6]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210203/2a1b09316bfe738e070969a5066ed7fa.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210203/d382c79e47e8b122c7f9ec5ec8762b24.jpg

And now I have this fixed I believe. And I think the bigger pin head suits better to the stout plane body.

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Cklett,
In the spirt of sports man ship and being a true gentleman, I feel you should go back and delete all references to an issue that we would all forget by tomorrow anyway,
By tomorrow speaking for my self at least I would be seeing two lovely M6 bolts that have always been there[emoji6].
Gerorge of 1984 fame would be so proud.

By the way brilliant idea with the steel guide bar.

Cheers Matt.

[Cklett]

In the meantime I also knocked up a thumb screw for the lever cap and a frog adjustment nut.

I used a knurled brass door knob from the BGS and stainless steel bolt.

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The knob had a half round notch it it. I cut a piece from the bottom to make the adjustment nut and just the top part for the thumb screw.


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That is 95% of the metal work done. Some refinement here and there. Off to the woodwork again. Next is the rear handle.

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[Bushmiller]

Gerorge of 1984 fame would be so proud.



Cheers Matt.

Matt

After nicknaming your plane "The Body," and perpetuating the theme above, CK's plane would have to be "Model 2012."

:cool:

Perhaps we should find a nickname for everybody's plane. That could be a secondary challenge. :wink:

Regards
Paul

[Sheets]

Matt

Perhaps we should find a nickname for everybody's plane. That could be a secondary challenge. :wink:

Regards
Paul
How about, "The Phantom", followed by a number as there are a few difficult to locate projects?

Steve

[Bushmiller]

I was discussing the naming of the plane with SWMBO and mentioned how Matt's plane was called "The Body," at which point she rolled her eyes and mumbled something about "a boy thing." :D She then asked about Model 2012. I had to explain that. I then realised that the significance might not be immediately apparent.

So what is it? I should also point out that she called into question whether I was right. Any ideas anybody?

Regards
Paul

[Picko]

A very well executed recovery there MacGyver.

[Cklett]

I was discussing the naming of the plane with SWMBO and mentioned how Matt's plane was called "The Body," at which point she rolled her eyes and mumbled something about "a boy thing." :D She then asked about Model 2012. I had to explain that. I then realised that the significance might not be immediately apparent.

So what is it? I should also point out that she called into question whether I was right. Any ideas anybody?

Regards
PaulI have to admit that the reference also eluded me. I did put that down to cultural barrier. And when I tried to google that it did sound weird. Isn't 1984 a dark story? Not sure if I understand the connection. [emoji849]

But anyway I like the idea of nicknames and will leave it to others to give one to my plane. [emoji6]

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[Bushmiller]

I have to admit that the reference also eluded me. I did put that down to cultural barrier. And when I tried to google that it did sound weird. Isn't 1984 a dark story? Not sure if I understand the connection. [emoji849]

But anyway I like the idea of nicknames and will leave it to others to give one to my plane. [emoji6]

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CK

A small clue: How did Eric Blair, a journalist, who wrote under the nom de plume of George Orwell, determine the future time setting for his book "1984?"

Regards
Paul

[Simplicity]

I was discussing the naming of the plane with SWMBO and mentioned how Matt's plane was called "The Body," at which point she rolled her eyes and mumbled something about "a boy thing." :D She then asked about Model 2012. I had to explain that. I then realised that the significance might not be immediately apparent.

So what is it? I should also point out that she called into question whether I was right. Any ideas anybody?

Regards
Paul

How am I implicated, when I did not choose the name of my plane,yet the culprit is siting right next to the judge.
Next said judge will be calling us a bunch of animals on a farm [emoji3064].

Cheers Matt.

[Bushmiller]

How am I implicated, when I did not choose the name of my plane,yet the culprit is siting right next to the judge.
Next said judge will be calling us a bunch of animals on a farm [emoji3064].

Cheers Matt.

Matt

Are you suggesting that it was me?

:-

We are all animals: We just forget that because we have a smart phone.

Regards
Paul

[Chief Tiff]

I was discussing the naming of the plane with SWMBO and mentioned how Matt's plane was called "The Body," at which point she rolled her eyes and mumbled something about "a boy thing." :D She then asked about Model 2012. I had to explain that. I then realised that the significance might not be immediately apparent.

So what is it? I should also point out that she called into question whether I was right. Any ideas anybody?

I must admit the Model 2012 reference is not immediately apparent but I have a hunch that Orwell picked the “84” year as a reverse of the year he wrote the book: 1948. This would tie in with Model 2012 being named in 2021.

Do I win $5?

[Bushmiller]

I must admit the Model 2012 reference is not immediately apparent but I have a hunch that Orwell picked the “84” year as a reverse of the year he wrote the book: 1948. This would tie in with Model 2012 being named in 2021.

Do I win $5?

You've got it. Matt, can you pay the Chief please as I am a little short of funds?

:D

Actually, although widely quoted, the theory is just that: A theory; There is no conclusive evidence or corroboration by Orwell/Blair that this reversal of the numbers is the case. The book was published in 1949 after some initial delays. I think the author died in 1950 from tuberculosis. 1950 was, I thought, a good year, but clearly not for everybody.

So, Model 2012?

Regards
Paul

[Simplicity]

You've got it. Matt, can you pay the Chief please as I am a little short of funds?

:D

Actually, although widely quoted, the theory is just that: A theory; There is no conclusive evidence or corroboration by Orwell/Blair that this reversal of the numbers is the case. The book was published in 1949 after some initial delays. I think the author died in 1950 from tuberculosis. 1950 was, I thought, a good year, but clearly not for everybody.

So, Model 2012?

Regards
Paul

See Big brother is watching evidence is being removed as we speak,think.

Cheers Matt.

[Simplicity]

You've got it. Matt, can you pay the Chief please as I am a little short of funds?

:D

Actually, although widely quoted, the theory is just that: A theory; There is no conclusive evidence or corroboration by Orwell/Blair that this reversal of the numbers is the case. The book was published in 1949 after some initial delays. I think the author died in 1950 from tuberculosis. 1950 was, I thought, a good year, but clearly not for everybody.

So, Model 2012?

Regards
Paul

Chief,
If you could let your people know through some other people that those people need to see a person,via my people in Deli,
I’m sure we can sort something out.

Cheers Matt.

[Cklett]

I guess I need to come now with an idea how to incorporate the number "2012" into my plane [emoji848]

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