Dog containment

[Tonyz]

contentious issue I know.
We have 2 Kelpie/Spaniel cross dogs both 8 years old and had them since pups.
We are renting a 5 hectre property and living on site for past 5 years. Unfortunately the neighbour had a run down farm with nothing happening on it until 9 months ago when he decided to lease it out and some yobbo put sheep in. Our dogs have instinct kicked in and rounding up the lambs and sheep. NO killing the owner has mentioned that, he also advised that he had killed the 2 dogs doing the killing.

But we need to keep the dogs away and that leaves 2 options contain them or destroy them and that will only happen with a lot of tears and anger.
Someone has mentioned Dogtra 3600 that has a 'stimulation' collar and 240V wiring around property perimiter.

whars your thoughts suggestions please. Please keep in mind I am very tender about our dogs.

[Simplicity]

Not really much too offer in the way of help, we have a four month old Kelpie, on a 20 acre property.
Our boundary fences are S…. an will probably stay that way,
Tho there is a property about 1 km away with sheep.

We currently keep Ruby very close due too her age, but I have driven two star pickets into our back yard about 100 metres apart, with a steel cable run between the two, Ruby gets her 20 metre lead attached too, when we need to do stuff, but let her run about,this is temporary till I can get a house property fence installed(1200 mm high) for her too run free in, tho being a Kelpie yes she could jump that, but only if encouraged, which we won’t be doing.

Cheers Matt.

[BobL]

I borrowed a collar thing from a friend because one of our dogs was constantly barking at the TV but the sight of the pup squirming every time it went off lasted a few minutes and we returned it.

Worth a go if you can borrow one from somewhere.

I like going to a mates farm down south.
He has a ring locked fence around a 2 acre yard around his house. My dogs could probably jump it but they dont even seem to want to try.
Have to remember to close gates but.

[ErrolFlynn]

A muzzle could be a form of imprisonment for the dog. Maybe there's a type that doesn't keep their mouths shut tight. That may be the only way to keep them away; stops the sheep from being killed. Then you might consider some coats for them. A distinctive colour - maybe with some kind of reflectorized material attached. Something lightweight with summer coming. Next, introduce your dogs to the neighbour. Go over there with the dogs. Don't be threatening. Be nice. You want the guy with the gun to like your dogs. The muzzle is there to reassure the neighbour you have taken steps to safeguard the sheep. The coats are for him to recognise the dogs and if he sees a dog with a coat he puts the gun away.

[Tonyz]

the sheep owner has been very generous, friendly and open. "I know your dogs arent killing my lambs, but if the owners of the 2 dogs I have disposed of got wind that I had not dealt the same treatment for your dogs then all hell will break open. If I needed another sheep dog Id be using yours, they are very good at rounding up and with no training".

[BobL]

One of our dogs (Willow) is a garbage guts and eats almost anything smelly. After 3 stomach pumpings due to eating blowfish, and another time from eating something unknown I got her a soft muzzle which stops her from eating anything large but still allows her to drink. Trouble was this did not prevent her from licking duck and shag poop and patches of vomit left on the Swan Rover foreshore after various "events". Down on the fore shore there are also a number of apartments and homes without fences and if left off the leash Willow (of the wisp) sneaks off and has occasionally be found in someones back yard licking out a BBQ grease trap. She will also lick a chainsaw bar clean of Canola oil lube.

These days I keep Willow on leash walking past those places without fences. The other dog (Skye) is an angel and sticks close to me no matter how powerful a smell is present.

[ErrolFlynn]

So, is Willow a fat little thing?

[BobL]

So, is Willow a fat little thing?

No she's as svelte as they come and we deliberately keep her light because although she's 12 years old I would like her to be able to jump in and our of the back of the car and its better they do that carrying less weight..
Willow is on the left in this photo.
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Willow weighs 18.5kg which is just under target weight of 19kg for her size.
She's quite fluffy but when she's been for a swim she looks pretty skinny.

Skye is a slightly smaller framed dog and weighs 19.5kg and has a little pot belly otherwise weight wise she's about where she should be.

It's weird because Sky is the active one chasing balls and jumping in the air to catch them whereas Willow spends a lot of time snoozing.

[forrestmount]

I have never seen in permitter collar device in real life but often wandered what happens when instant kicks in and the dog crosses the line at speed with excitement, If they try to come back would they cope another shock.


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[rustynail]

"Some yobbo"? That's your new neighbour you're talking about. It's not his sheep chasing your dogs. I hope he doesnt read the Forum!
A dog doesnt have to be a killer to be liable. Running stock has got plenty of dogs shot. Your neighbour is not running sheep for your dogs' amusement. Sounds to me like he is a pretty approachable sort of chap.
I love dogs. Particularly working dogs and have had same all my life. Yes, instinct is strong but not as strong as an electric fence. Mike Tyson once said,"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face." An electric fence hit is a punch in the face." Dogs are sensitive creatures, once trained to a fence they won't touch it. The trick is to train them to a small yard first. This becomes their home yard. Now you know exactly where your dogs are. Increase the size to whatever you like, once they know the rules.
Good fences make good neighbours.

[mature one]

I agree my son installed a electric fence and he only had to tell the dog he would put the collar on and she behaved, she only got hit by fence once and learned a lesson.