How to move a tablesaw - ST250?

[Just George]

I have a contract on a house and have been wondering how to move my HAFCO ST250.
It arrived at my unit on the back of my ute which I don't have anymore. I do have a trailer though. The saw weighs in at 240kg and took a forklift to put it onto my ute and 2 of us to get it off. moving it during assembly took a pine stud(2000x70x35).

There is so much information availble from the members here, I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how to move it.

[Caliban]

Buy an engine crane from a car parts place like supercheap. They're about $349 and lift 1000kgs. They are on steel castors and fold up nicely.
Good for a thousand and one jobs.
You will wish you had paid for it if you hurt your back or drop your saw and damage it or yourself or both.
I'll see if I can find a picture for you.
Try here http://www.justtools.com.au/prod3373.htm

[GregLee]

I'd get a removalist. or a specialist machinery relocation specialist to do it for you.

Otherwise, brute strength, hand winch and a sled or trolley. You could also try removing the table from the cabinet and doing it in 2 pieces.

[martrix]

I just had to move my 280kg TS into the back of a van, piece of cake..Take off most pieces that you can to reduce weight...Make up two ramps from thick solid timber, I had some old staircase stringers, 2100mm long x 200mm wide x 40mm thick Merbau.
Mine was on a mobile base, so we just moved it on to the ramp, one person to keep it on track, and me pushing it up the ramp...easy....however, unloading it down the ramp is another story..Use caution or flat Stanley you will be called. I just tied a rope to it and slowly released it down the ramp..

note: longer the ramp, lessen's the angle making it easier to push, however the ramp needs to more rigid..

[sbranden]

hire a dingo and knock off all those other jobs around the place on the same day?

shaun

[ian]

I second the specialist machinery mover.
If you're intent on doing it yourself, go with the engine crane. take the saw apart as much as possible, but before you do build a pallet or similar to secure it to during the move. Leaving the saw assembled is usually a good way to bugger the fence rails, and supports for the table wings.

ian

[Wild Dingo]

hire a dingo and knock off all those other jobs around the place on the same day?

shaun

No worries!! have F100 and castored lifter ala up there also a wee crane thingy on the FFY cause you would have to translate that squiggle you have as your location George... but no worries... local WA fuel costs to and from and 50 per hour will do it... eastern states same on the fuel add in accomadation and meals and make it 50 an hour and I will be there! :cool:

Cheers Shaun for puttin me name forward for this work appreciated mate! ;)

[Felder]

George - are you in Sydney? If so PM me to borrow machine moving equipment!:)

[sbranden]

No worries!! have F100 and castored lifter ala up there also a wee crane thingy on the FFY cause you would have to translate that squiggle you have as your location George... but no worries... local WA fuel costs to and from and 50 per hour will do it... eastern states same on the fuel add in accomadation and meals and make it 50 an hour and I will be there! :cool:

Cheers Shaun for puttin me name forward for this work appreciated mate! ;)

No worries, just don't forget the standard South Australian spotters fee of a carton of Coopers :)

[E. maculata]

2 weeks ago mini swmbo & I drove to Sydney to pick up large piece of machinery , so I carted a portable lift such as Caliban is advising all the way there & back. I am so glad I did, no way was I gunna get 300kg+ bit'o steel in the trailer otherwise.
However if you're nearby, I reckon Fielders' gracious offer is the go;) .

[Stuart]

Sell it, and get a Triton ;)

[Harry72]

Buy an engine crane from a car parts place like supercheap. They're about $349 and lift 1000kgs. They are on steel castors and fold up nicely.
Good for a thousand and one jobs.
You will wish you had paid for it if you hurt your back or drop your saw and damage it or yourself or both.
I'll see if I can find a picture for you.
Try here http://www.justtools.com.au/prod3373.htm
Shop around and you'll get a 1000kg one for less than $300... mine(2T)was that price.(the one in the back ground of that pic at justtools)
The 1000kg only lift to 2.5m high, a 2T reaches about 3.5m high, make sure you get one with foldable legs as without it they take up a fair amount of room. If you think you'll never lift over 1000kg dont get the bigger lad as they are quite a bit heavier making loading the crane itself heavy work. Im about to mount some extra wheels at the top to help with this. Pays to get a swiveling hook and some lifting straps/gear, seat belts make good straps... just watch for sharp edges!

[Zed]

Sell it, and get a Triton ;)


NNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

[Bodgy]

George - are in Sydney? If so PM me to borrow machine moving equipment!:)

Good on you, Felder!

[Stuart]

NNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Oh Zed, secretly I know you want some orange tools. I can see you sneaking into the Bunnings toolshop near closing time, caressing each orange tool you see as you walk past, knowing that sooner or later, your urge will become too strong.

Wonder which one will become your first love? The router perhaps, or possibly the Plunge Drill. It is all a matter of time before you join the ranks of the believers

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[Groggy]

I could help if you were in either one of the two cities I frequent, but -.-. .-.. .- -.-- ..-. .. . is just too far to drive.:rolleyes:

[Just George]

George - are you in Sydney? If so PM me to borrow machine moving equipment!:)

D'oh, thankyou for the offer but I'm in Brisbane. I went to a hire place where they have a manual forklift gadget. It has two wide wheels at the rear and two wheels under the lifting arms - just like a forkfilt. Its weight capacity is 600kg. I think I'll take advice given and make/modofy a pallet and attach it to that. If only I lived closer to work, there is a forklift there.

I used to own a Triton and still have a few Triton bits left, they can be folded away and put in the trailer, around the table saw once it's on the trailer.

Thankyou for the help...

[Just George]

I could help if you were in either one of the two cities I frequent, but -.-. .-.. .- -.-- ..-. .. . is just too far to drive.:rolleyes:

Sorry for the morse code, it's a little easier to read now...

[Just George]

Thanks to everyone for the offers of help to move my tablesaw, I had some ideas and in the end I got "Send Australia" to move both the Tablesaw and Jointer. If anyone needs sensitive/specialist moving done - call them. I dismantled the sawtable as much as I could and they wheeled their hand trolley in, strapped it on and away they went and up into their van using a hydraulic lifter.
Then it was a matter of getting power connected to the shed, this was done last weekend and final moving from my old garage into my new shed has now taken place. All I need to do now is set it all up as I have a table on order and, our mortgage broker after a few pieces and then of course there are things to build for the new house...:)

[Harry72]

Congrats on the new place... happy WW'ing mate!

[Al B]

As Harry said congratulations on the new place George, You will have to show us some pics of the new workshop once you have it all set up and of your projects.

[Just George]

I look forward to getting it all up and running then proudly showing it off.

[Jedo_03]

George
(et al)
Why not HIRE a lifter...?
Ey...!!
Cheers
Jedo

[rick_rine]

Hi Just George , Sorry all to drag up an old post but...
I ordered my ST-250 from H&F who promised to deliver it to the wharf at Burnie , so today I got a call from the wharf at Devonport " your box is here " Oh. i thought how am I going to get that 250-350 kg ( depending on who you listen to )monster home . After frantic calls to friends and also the local bottle shop " can I borrow your forklift ?" the friendly blokes at patricks rang back and said " we've been thinking about your problem and for a small fee will bring it over with a tail lifter ute and bring a pallet mover so we can site it in your workshop "
Tasmania has got it for friendly service . I am very relieved and look forward to seeing it in my shed .
Problem solved thanks to Patricks blokes who have gone out of their way to help .
Rick

[Just George]

No problem Rick, when I bought mine I had a ute. They put it on the back with a forklift, at the other end I undid the box and took it off piece by piece. I had help to lift the rest off, it ended up being put top down until the weekend when I got to assemble it. I hope not to have to move it again. Although, I hope to build another shed in my backyard this year or next and then it'll be moved again. That won't be bad as it won't have to be lifted onto a truck or ute and strapped down. It'll just be moved to where there will be MORE space...

[soundman]

It is quite interesting what you can get at the hire shop these days.

however

If you wanted to "Soundman's goodies inc" could supply you a nice new 1400KG engine lifter for $299 inc GST delivered in bris.
folding legs....swiveling hook a lifts near 3M with the boom out.
Nice.

Exador baught one off me before christmas & he's quite happy with it.

Once the cleanup is finished round here one is comming to stay.

A common mod for these is to retro fit the 8T ram inplace of the 3 or 4T one they come with.
It needs to be said you then have to be a bit carefull.
the 1400kg ones are quite a bit beefier and have more lift than the 1000kg ones you see arround.

cheers

[abitfishy]

Sort of on the subject, but has anyone used one of these engine cranes to lift a boat motor off a transom? If so, how did you rig it so the motor stays put? I can imagine it tipping and falling to the floor. Ouch.

[soundman]

As with lifting anything, it all about how you sling it.

I gather you are talking about a decent sized outboard.

You probaly need to find a couple of points arround the base of the cowling

or choke a couple of slings arround under the top of the leg casting just above the mount. you want to be able to manipulate the mount freely.

then choke a sling around the prop end of the leg and use a ratchet tie down or a rope back arround the hook to controll the swing.

basicaly a good solid two point load carying sling arrangemant with additional controll line.

adjust till it slings properly then lift.
the controll sould be positive not relying on balance.



cheers

[journeyman Mick]

Soundy,
does Soundman Inc. sell any of those manual walky/stacker forklift gizmos? Might be interested in one sometime down the track if I can'tsnag a cheap forklift.

Mick

[soundman]

Don't think I can lay my hands on a small forklift right off.

All sorts of garage type lifting things no prob, but little fork.... Hmmmm
I'll rattle a few cages.

cheers