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John Saxton
11th March 2002, 10:16 PM
Here's a site on rusty tool treatment as well as other interests. http://www.rusty21.com/[/URL]

Hope this helps.
Cheers http://ubb.ubeaut.com.au/ubb/smile.gif

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John Saxton
11th March 2002, 10:22 PM
Sorry site not coming up...a good site though.

John Saxton
12th March 2002, 11:15 PM
Yes Please if'n you'r buyin Stoppers http://ubb.ubeaut.com.au/ubb/biggrin.gif

I got the site bookmarked and I'll send you a copy if'n yo'all like...for an appropriate glass of sum of that there good oil!!

Vonrek
12th March 2002, 11:39 PM
Rusty tools??

Shame on you

John Saxton
13th March 2002, 10:04 PM
Chris me ol bloody china...you have a bottle of that there good coonabloody good stuff in Melbourne in'n you're game http://ubb.ubeaut.com.au/ubb/biggrin.gif enuff to turn up and I'll give you the good http://ubb.ubeaut.com.au/ubb/smile.gif oil on this here topic...and we'll hic.. have a done deal.

JackoH
14th March 2002, 03:27 PM
I dunno! Rusty tools, Randy Cabinet makers. Cabernet drinking Doorstops,Bad tempered Badgers. It's all too much.I'm going to Wagga Wagga Wagga (just in case Iain sees this)
Like General McArthur & Arnie Schwarzeneger.I'll be back!!!
Regards John H. . http://ubb.ubeaut.com.au/ubb/tongue.gif

John Saxton
25th September 2002, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by doors
Johnno mate, you turn up with YOUR rust remover and I will open a bottle (or two) of MY rust remover.... Deal? http://ubb.ubeaut.com.au/ubb/smile.gif
I will be suitably armed with a bottle of Margeret River red rust remover for the stoppers and co @ the U-Beaut stand in Melbourne and with with print out of said copy! http://ubb.ubeaut.com.au/ubb/biggrin.gif



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Johnno

JackoH
9th October 2002, 05:13 PM
What time is this Great Australian Red tasting session, 'cause I might be persuaded to bring a bottle of GOOD stuff from the Yarra Valley.
Regards John H. http://ubb.ubeaut.com.au/ubb/biggrin.gif

Gino
4th November 2002, 05:44 PM
What happened to the rust?

John if you should find out an address that works, I'd be most interested.

p.s when is the wood show in Perth as I'm there next week.

regards

Gino

Gino
4th November 2002, 05:53 PM
This looks promising.
http://www.liquideng.com.au/corrodip.html

G

John Saxton
5th November 2002, 08:33 PM
Gino, as the link to the above treatment did not open here on the BB and as I still have it bookmarked I can print out a copy for you as I did for Stoppers http://ubb.ubeaut.com.au/ubb/biggrin.gif if you're interested e-mail me with your snail mail address and I'll get off a copy for you.

Re the Perth WW show...it isn't held until March/April date unsure at this point in time!

Cheers http://ubb.ubeaut.com.au/ubb/smile.gif

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Johnno

DonN
6th November 2002, 08:33 PM
liquid engineering rust remove the best since sliced bread. I collect Stanley Planes, some of them are very rusty when I get them, just put them in liquid engineering rust remove and 1 day later rust gone paint still there. Just follow the directions on the bottle and you won't go wrong and no I do not work for Liquid engineering.
DonN

Gino
6th November 2002, 08:53 PM
Thanks for the feed back Don, always prefer to hear it from someone whos actually used a product.

Gino

JaD
3rd July 2003, 04:45 AM
G'day DonN
I was just browsing thru and found your reply & info re cleaning old planes with this liquid engineering stuff. Is that the brand name of it & where is the best place to find it?
I was given a Stanley #45 plane a while back and this product sounds just what I've been looking for to restore this wonderful old tool.


Jon D

John Saxton
3rd July 2003, 08:48 PM
JaD, I've never tried it personally but many reckon Molasse's is the go with rust removal.
Mind tho, buying it in a quantity to do the job and whether you can use it over and over again needs to be checked out.
Cheers:) HTH

journeyman Mick
3rd July 2003, 10:55 PM
Molasses works a treat, BUT it stinks something awful! I usually mix it with water about 1 part molasses 2 parts water. Immerse rusty object in mix, hanging on a wire hook to save reaching into the evil smelling gunk. Check every day to start with till you get the hang of how fast your mix works on your amount of rust, it can take weeks. Of course the molasses is slowly fermenting during this time, mind you in colder climes this is probably greatly reduced but in colder climes you probably don't have 4 sugar mills within an hours drive.

Mick

JaD
9th July 2003, 07:36 PM
Well thanks for the tip Mick,
but I think I'll give the mollassas the flick.
I think we've moved on a bit since this style
was in vogue, but it might be good to move any unwanted folks from the shed!!!;)

chia
24th September 2003, 05:05 PM
other methods i have come across is in australian wood review vol.40. They inc ideas on mechanical methods (grinding,sandblasting etc) Chemical (as most of the replies above) and electrolysis which involves 12 volt battery charger,plastic container,washing soda and water.in the magazine this looks like the friendliest way to remove rust

:)

Tankstand
25th September 2003, 01:44 AM
Hi all,

Get this, our laborotory at mitsi has used M.S.G. to de-rust components in the past!

I see why the chinese use it so much, must be good for you.

Grue
25th September 2003, 01:57 AM
Back to the serious art of rust removal.

The idea is to convert the rust back to the parent metal not remove it.

Restoring old tools and such is best done by electrolysis.

Rust removal using the Pure Magic (PFM) of electricity is described in detail on http://www.bhi.co.uk/hints/rust.htm
Good Stuff.

The term "PFM" refers to electricity and is in general use in the metalworking fraternity.

Glenn

DanP
25th September 2003, 02:06 AM
OR:

Get a copy of issue 40 of the Aus Wood Review. Has instructions on how to make your own electrolysis machine using a car battery charger. Looks like a cheap and effective means.

Dan

rob_tassie
30th September 2003, 02:29 PM
Good article, comprehensive and even give enviro friendly options like lemon juice etc... HAVE A LOOK-SEE!

Sir Stinkalot
30th September 2003, 02:54 PM
Stinky is currently in the process of testing the electrolysis method. I have a few old rustly pliers and spanners that I am trying it out on. I will have the results in a day or two .... I will post a new listing about my findings, with photos, later in the week for those that are interested.

Stinky.

snappperhead
30th September 2003, 06:48 PM
have just tried to use the vinegar method as well as the oxalic acid method.

vinegar method was average, removed slight rust but didnt penetrate that well. oxalic acid worked an absolute treat (restored a decrepid old disston tenon saw back to its former glory) and would recommend it to anyone. however after i had rinsed it in water small surface rust appeared almost instantly. i stopped it by applying some oil but since it was my first time i was very surprised at how well it worked.

any tips to help that rust from reforming?

JackoH
1st October 2003, 11:50 AM
An aquaintance of mine who is into restoring old steam engines and the like, uses neat molasses. He buys the stuff in 44 gallon drums (or the metric equivalent) from the local stock-feed store. (Farmers use it to help prevent bloat in cattle), and pours it into a great big open top tank. Lowers bloody grest fly wheels and other bits into it with a block and tackle. He leaves them for several days, hauls them out again and steam cleans them. Come up like new. A remarkable transformation.
Just thought you would like to know!:D