pine, willow and soap conditioning

[hughie]

A couple of bowls that have responded well to the soap treatment. Both cut green last summer and spent about 4-6 weeks in the soap then air dried for about 4 weeks. No sign to date of any movement or cracking etc, both finished with shellawax.

Interesting enough the willow [ r/h bowl ] turned well and cut cleanly with a hint of fibre tear. It was cut from a mature tree, probably 20+ years old, maybe this helped :confused: .

Size of both bowls is around 10-12cm width x 7cm-10cm high or 4-5"x2.75-4" for our US friends :D

The real plus is the ease of slicing through soft timber after tackling various dried hard woods :)

hughie

[rsser]

How deep do you reckon the soaking went Hughie?

[Auzzie turner]

Nice bowls, especially like the left hand bowl, the shape of it. Care to tell us how you did the soap treatment? if you have allready told us how, a link please? Intersting enough though, the background is always just as interesting as what the object is:D :D

Nice going,
Regards........Joash

[Slow6]

the one on the left gets my money.. really nice shape, it invites you to pick it up and roll it round in your hands.

[cedar n silky]

Nice bowls, especially like the left hand bowl, the shape of it. Care to tell us how you did the soap treatment? if you have allready told us how, a link please? Intersting enough though, the background is always just as interesting as what the object is:D :D
Nice going,
Regards........Joash

Yeh Hughie, nice bowls, and I wouldnt mind knowing your soap recipe also? (sunlight soap? dishwashing liquid?, what ratio?)
Whats in the jar behind the bowl? Not some weird home brew I hope, cause youll be drinking it on your own, if it is!;)

[Skew ChiDAMN!!]

And put the lid back on yer EEE! Stone the crows, some blokes... [shakes head]


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[Auzzie turner]

:) :) :) :) :) :) :)

[hughie]

Thanks for the encouragement.

Soap: I use the cheapest liquid dish washing liquid I could find @ $1 a litre, mix it with water one to one. Oh! gets some sented oil strong stuff, cos the brew will really stink after a few bowls :eek: it will bring the blowies from miles around other wise.
And make sure its with out any colour other wise......... :D

Depth: thats a hard one. But the bowls in question were cut and finished all in less that 3 months.It could have been less but I was busy, so the process was interrupted a few times. Theres no distortion and no cracking, the rough out was a lot less than the recommended 10% probably closer to 5%.

Being soft wood I would say penetration was all the way through, given I left about 12-15 mm wall thickness in the rough out stage.
Soft timber works best for me, hardwoods well.... it may the same time as air drying :(

Lid off: fair comment :p ........hangs his head and stands in the corner.

hughie

[Gil Jones]

Both are fine looking bowls, and I too favor the left one.

[OGYT]

Hughie, good lookin' bowls. I like 'em both. Seems from the pic that the one on the left is thinner... but they're both really nice.
You left them in the soap a lot longer than I do, so I may give that a shot. I've been leaving mine in for 7 days... gotta get more soap. Mine stinks, that's for sure... I put a gallon of denatured alcohol in my tank every so often, to replace that pulled out by the wood. I guess that's why the flies don't come around. :o
Now for the yank thing: What's EEE?
Haven't been to check on the postage yet... but will, one day.
Cheers, your way.

[CameronPotter]

EEE is a polishing paste that does a very fine abrasive job. It works a treat, but I tend to stay away from it if I am using wood with holes of some kind as it can fill them with a greyish muck unfortunately... HOWEVER, I certainly use it on every other piece of turning I do!

The good news is that there is also a distributor in the States. :D

Cam

[Cliff Rogers]

EEE is a polishing paste ...I tend to stay away from it if I am using wood with holes of some kind as it can fill them with a greyish muck unfortunately......

You can buff it out manually with the lath stopped using a soft bristle brush.
A soft tooth brush, paint brush or shoe polish brush works. ;)

[OGYT]

Thanks for the info, Cam and Cliff, I'll check out the EEE.
I use Woll Wax Paste, here. It's made by Masters Magic, now; though it was invented in Amarillo, Texas. :o
You can wet sand with Woll Wax, or apply it with just a few drops of water, and then buff it out to a beautiful satin sheen. And then you can spray lacquer on it without cleaning off the wax, if you decide you need another coat. Something about it... good stuff, anyway.

[Gil Jones]

Al, PSI (http://www.pennstateind.com) sells the Ubeaut brand of polishes/waxes. Just type EEE in the site search. I bought a small can of EEE, and it does do a fine job. Not sure, but the abrasive in it looks and feels like rottenstone. It works like a very fine rubbing compound.

[ss_11000]

Al, PSI (http://www.pennstateind.com) sells the Ubeaut brand of polishes/waxes. Just type EEE in the site search. I bought a small can of EEE, and it does do a fine job. Not sure, but the abrasive in it looks and feels like rottenstone. It works like a very fine rubbing compound.

rottenstone is also known as tripoli powder, here is the link (http://www.ubeaut.com.au/ubhome.htm) to it.

btw, nice bowls, i like the right one better...

[hughie]

Whats in the jar behind the bowl? Not some weird home brew I hope, cause youll be drinking it on your own, if it is!;)
[/QUOTE]

Cedar, Sorry missed replying to your comment here.Its a mix of turps and polystyrene sealer that I make up....well use to. I went down to Bunnys to get some more turps and the new batch wont melt the poly anymore. B......r !!!!! :confused: Dunno what it is now, but its B..... woefull now.:mad:

Al, The longer the better in the soap. Soft timbers I have found respond the best. Some I have left in for a month......actually forgot em. My soap container is a plastic 44gal [200L] drum/barrel and its about half full most of the time. So a few them get lost when they sink to the bottom. :D

The left hand bowl is about 3/16" [5mm] thick overall and very light. But it sits well in the hand as a munchy bowl. Neither bowl have anything in the way of a foot.
Both are sanded back with 600 grit and then EEE. The l/h finished with Shellawax friction polish and the r/h with rub one Poly 4 coats.
hughie

[rodent]

cam go to one of the two dollar shops and by a battery operated tooth brush great for getting out finishes stuck in voids or cracks in turned pieces . no cracks from you guys .

[hughie]

cam go to one of the two dollar shops and by a battery operated tooth brush great for getting out finishes stuck in voids or cracks in turned pieces . no cracks from you guys


aw :D hughie