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sea dragon
27th September 2006, 10:26 PM
I understand that users showing a preference for hand tools are known as "Neanders" or Darksiders. But why:confused:
Okay, it supposedly suggests a return to an earlier primitive time. A Dark Age.
But, isn't it more logical to think of power tools as being the dark side? The desire for ever bigger, more numerous or more powerful tools?
Noisy tools that disrupt the peace and calm of the workshop. The embodiment of succumbing to that desire for power, in its woodworking manifestations.
On with the Star Wars saga?

Stuart
27th September 2006, 10:27 PM
Luke, I am your Father.

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/05/05/star_wideweb__430x280.jpg

Bob Willson
27th September 2006, 10:37 PM
No! No! No! Stuart. It is Darth baby who is Lukies daddy

Stuart
27th September 2006, 11:53 PM
I know, but the Emperor looks so much more like a darkside woodworker.

The quote is pure Vader (as is my byline "If you only knew the power of the darkside" :D )

jmk89
28th September 2006, 09:11 AM
My, more benign, take on it SD is that it has to do with how many electrons you use not whether they have some sort of occult pack of devil worshippers (although I could sometimes contemplate a Faustian pact whenever I am trying to do perfect mitred dovetails:eek: ).
Hand tool users are so dedicated to not using electricity that they don't even have electric lights in their shed - hence they are always in the dark...:D

RufflyRustic
28th September 2006, 09:23 AM
... and I thought I had seen the light when I cut my first nicely-fitting dovetail :eek: :confused: :D :D :D

Wood Borer
28th September 2006, 09:30 AM
And you did Wendy;)

Grunt
28th September 2006, 09:41 AM
It is simply evil to use hand tools in favour of power tools.

Wood Borer is the Devil, Wood Borer is the Devel Aaark http://images.google.com.au/images?q=tbn:yGC4GS21eHImvM:http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/%7Esedwards/photos/taiwan200508/20050828-2632%2520Parrot%2520Leofoo%2520Village.jpg

silentC
28th September 2006, 09:57 AM
This topic has been discussed before. Do a search :p

OK, Derek was to blame. He was always trying to tempt people to switch off their machines and pick up a hand plane, so someone called him Darth Derek (Col I think) and it grew from there.

Lignum
28th September 2006, 09:57 AM
The Emperor of the real Darkside:cool:

Grunt
28th September 2006, 10:05 AM
Darkside started from this thread (http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=12829)
Outback called Derek Cohen 'Darth Cohen'. Check out this
(http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=17358)

silentC
28th September 2006, 10:21 AM
Here (http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showthread.php?t=11718)is the one I was thinking of.

Grunt
28th September 2006, 10:38 AM
And here all these years I've been thinking I was so cleaver coming up with the Darkside thing and it was Derek all the time.

Well at least you guys think I cleaver, don't you?

silentC
28th September 2006, 10:44 AM
Well at least you guys think I cleaver, don't you?
Sure you cleaver. Whatever that is. Is it Scottish? :p

Grunt
28th September 2006, 11:15 AM
Maybe I shouldn't have left school at year 10.

Stuart
28th September 2006, 11:49 AM
The Emperor of the real Darkside:cool:

Priceless Lignum!!!!!


Sure you cleaver. Whatever that is. Is it Scottish? :p
He likes to cleave things with non powered tools.
http://www.utsler.com/tc/cleaver-thumb.jpg

sea dragon
28th September 2006, 11:20 PM
Thanks for the reference to the earlier threads. I had done a search, but had about forty pages, so I thought I needed something more.
The historical anomaly of Derek having started it was bettered only by that superb jpg by Harry 72. A pity Derek did not manage to use it as his avatar.

I still have a conceptual problem, though. Can any of you imagine Derek needing to walk around his workshop wearing his full Triton respirator? Stuart, perhaps, albeit inan orange robe.