What the hell is this doing here

[dadpad]

I asked for this so I guess I better be the first poster.

This forunm is for information on Farm forestry, Plantations and Forestry management in general.
My expertise is in Farm Forestry so I will be asking some friends I know to look in occasionally and answer any questions I can't.

Want to know what to grow? or get some opinions on what might work in your area
How its grown?
Who to talk to?

Ask away I'll see if i can help or at least point you in the right direction.

[ubeaut]

G'day dadpad - are you or any of your mates a member of Hoo Hoo
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c7/HooHoo.JPG/180px-HooHoo.JPG

[squashedfrog1]

Oh my lord, it's a real order. How on earth did it get that name?


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[squashedfrog1]

Actually I have a question.

Our property was incorrectly surveyed before we bought it and the tree plantation mob next door ripped and fertilised a couple of acres on a west facing hill that are now (after correct surveying) inside our fence line. Is there anything worth planting in such a small area? We're in North East Victoria on acid clay soils. Next door plantation is blue gum for carbon credis and mahogany for furniture, or so we're told. It just seems a shame to waste the hard work on the prepared slope but 2 acres doesnt seem like it would produce anything commercially viable. It is also virtually impossible to irrigate this section of the property too so whatever goes there must fend for itself.

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[dadpad]

G'day dadpad - are you or any of your mates a member of Hoo Hoo


Now I ask you would you belong to an organisation that dresses like this for the Ceremonial Embalming of the Snark?

http://www.hoo-hoo.org/gallery/embalming/013_13.jpg

My god! I've seen better dressed bricklayers.

[dadpad]

Actually I have a question.

Our property was incorrectly surveyed before we bought it and the tree plantation mob next door ripped and fertilised a couple of acres on a west facing hill that are now (after correct surveying) inside our fence line. Is there anything worth planting in such a small area? We're in North East Victoria on acid clay soils. Next door plantation is blue gum for carbon credis and mahogany for furniture, or so we're told. It just seems a shame to waste the hard work on the prepared slope but 2 acres doesnt seem like it would produce anything commercially viable. It is also virtually impossible to irrigate this section of the property too so whatever goes there must fend for itself.
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There would be heaps of things you could plant and make money from and I agree its a waste.
Start a new thread on the subject. How long ago was it ripped. what kinds of eucs are in the area? What is the land history of use? Supposed annual rainfall? probable soil depth?

[reeves]

Actually I have a question.

Our property was incorrectly surveyed before we bought it and the tree plantation mob next door ripped and fertilised a couple of acres on a west facing hill that are now (after correct surveying) inside our fence line. Is there anything worth planting in such a small area? We're in North East Victoria on acid clay soils. Next door plantation is blue gum for carbon credis and mahogany for furniture, or so we're told. It just seems a shame to waste the hard work on the prepared slope but 2 acres doesnt seem like it would produce anything commercially viable. It is also virtually impossible to irrigate this section of the property too so whatever goes there must fend for itself.

sf

have you looked at paulownia ?

http://www.paulowniatrees.com.au/

they need plenty of water to start but apparently grow well in poor soils, provide lots of mulch and produce usable timber in 10 years and regrow quicker from roots when cut. If the water is hassle some kinda local species might be better, some of the eucalypts or corymbias dont need much water.

How r the trees in the plantation next door going ?

[rond]

:?
Now I ask you would you belong to an organisation that dresses like this for the Ceremonial Embalming of the Snark?

http://www.hoo-hoo.org/gallery/embalming/013_13.jpg

My god! I've seen better dressed bricklayers.
:C Q. Is this fair dinkum?

[squashedfrog1]

Mmmm, havent looked at the Paulo. Interesting tree!
It would just be the water to start thing that would be difficult. Now if this drought would just break.......

The trees next door and doing very well. Most are well over 20 feet high and looking very healthy.

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[Woodbox]

Good topic - Bridgetown WA, your recommendation would be appreciated. Should be 600mm rainfall, some granite outcrops, reasonably hilly, 5 dams for fire management.
Thoughts are pine on granite areas, blue gums on bottom soil, then thinned for saw logs. Know it is long term but good investment for kids and potential for carbon credits if and when someone is definative as to homogeneous agreement.

Thanks

[dadpad]

Woodbox I have been away for a while so hope this reaches you.
I'm not super familiar with west Aussie so I'll provide this advice with qualifications. good contacts to start out for you http://www.afg.asn.au/branches/afg_branches.html scroll down for WA.

600ml rainfall is probably a little short for blue gum remember your 600ml is average if you have a dry year you might lose the lot. Spotted gum (C.maculata) up the slope so frost is not a problem or E.saligna might be better.
Throw in some casurinas in the wettest parts for a real high value wood. sugar gum, red iron bark are other considerations.

If you put pine in make sure you have enough money to prune and thin them or they wont turn a profit. The big pine companies have the pine industry tied up in knots at the moment and its really quite hard to sell small lots especially thinnings. Even for 20 ha its just not worth the hassel. this of course could change over the next 20 years, I sure hope so.