Maximum One Drivel Thread Per Week

[echnidna]

In another post Al decreed

Maximum One Drivel Thread Per Week

So a poll is needed to see which drivel is kept

[Cliff Rogers]

This is the 4th one today. :D

[echnidna]

Na cliff this is not drivel itsa poll!!!!!

[Cliff Rogers]

Na cliff this is not drivel itsa poll!!!!!
About drivel... I also note that at least one of the other drivel threads has had been to the drivel cleaners already. :D

[SPIRIT]

footy theard is no drivel there all highly intellect posts only when them northeners drop in does it drop in standard

[Cliff Rogers]

Different people have different ideas as to what is meaningful & what isn't... bit like sport. :D

[MurrayD99]

footy theard is no drivel there all highly intellect posts only when them northeners drop in does it drop in standard
Quite so, bit specialised methinks. What shaped ball we talking about here?

[Cliff Rogers]

.... What shaped ball we talking about here?
Head shaped I think.... unless that was one of the posts that got cleaned up. :D

[echnidna]

Just proves that footy drivel can get wasted in these forums

[martrix]

ahhh...sweet relief, just found the ignore list button. Never had to use it before, but I cant stand all the bull$hyte:stars: :wacko:anymore:disgust1:....pity, sometimes the people on it make interesting reading, cheers.:cheers:

[Cliff Rogers]

See Bob, you too can be ignored. :p

[Wongo]

I picked 3 except the footy one.

[Wongo]

Na cliff this is not drivel itsa poll!!!!!

We sure can do something about it Bob.:D

[Wizened of Oz]

What? Shut down the whole forum? :D :D :D

[ozwinner]

In another post Al decreed

Maximum One Drivel Thread Per Week

So a poll is needed to see which drivel is kept

Nah decreed that, I was just repeating it.

Al :doh:

[RETIRED]

Yep.

[NewLou]

ahhh...sweet relief, just found the ignore list button. Never had to use it before, but I cant stand all the bull$hyte:stars: :wacko:anymore:disgust1:....pity, sometimes the people on it make interesting reading, cheers.:cheers:

Totally agree

I'm finding it harder n harder to find intersting threads without having to wade chin deep through pizz n drivel

Why not have a Drivel Room for the drivlers where they can drivel on each other and fill the room up with high jacks n drivel up to their eyeballs :2tsup:

..............................It would be Drivel Nervana where members can drivel into each others mouths up each others noses and in each others pokets. You could even get "I'm A Drivler" on a forum Cap And have an annual award for the thread with the most ridiculas drivel

.................Send each other X-MAs cards splattered with Drivel and create a virtual world of driveldom.

THose that love drivel can hang out in the drivel Room becoming drivel buckets gleefully filling each other up!!!

could it be politely suggested that the drivel be vigerously moderated in the Woodworking sections so that I no long have to drivel on about drivel.

DrivelisedLou2U:doh:

[ozwinner]

Totally agree

I'm finding it harder n harder to find intersting threads without having to wade chin deep through pizz n drivel

Why not have a Drivel Room for the drivlers where they can drivel on each other and fill the room up with high jacks n drivel up to their eyeballs :2tsup:

..............................It would be Drivel Nervana where members can drivel into each others mouths up each others noses and in each others pokets. You could even get "I'm A Drivler" on a forum Cap And have an annual award for the thread with the most ridiculas drivel

.................Send each other X-MAs cards splattered with Drivel and create a virtual world of driveldom.

THose that love drivel can hang out in the drivel Room becoming drivel buckets gleefully filling each other up!!!

could it be politely suggested that the drivel be vigerously moderated in the Woodworking sections so that I no long have to drivel on about drivel.

DrivelisedLou2U:doh:

The boys and girls in the back shed are working on it Lou. :U

There are enough Drivelers to go and start up their own forums and have a good member base straight off. :q

Al :2tsup:

[Stuart]

Don't you guys make sawdust any more? All I seem to come across is bulldust.

[ozwinner]

Don't you guys make sawdust any more? All I seem to come across is bulldust.

Stu if you have a look back at the Drivelers past posts, most of them have never done any woodwork at all, and if they have they havent posted it here..

Al :o

[martrix]

What about this for a suggestion.

A drivel forum that requires a password exactly the same as the open slather section.......which would also mean it wouldn't show up when you hit 'New Posts'......
any excessive verbal diarrhoea in normal posting is deleted straight up, no questions asked at the mods discretion.

[Gra]

Stu if you have a look back at the Drivelers past posts, most of them have never done any woodwork


oy, I resent that remark:D:D:q:q

Bring on the Im a Driveller Hat....:2tsup::2tsup::2tsup::2tsup:

[Sturdee]

Stu if you have a look back at the Drivelers past posts, most of them have never done any woodwork at all, and if they have they havent posted it here..

Al :o

And the non drivellers hardly post anymore because of the drivel that has invaded the forums.

Where is the option for "Get rid of the drivel completely" for I would vote for that.

Peter.

[NewLou]

And the non drivellers hardly post anymore because of the drivel that has invaded the forums.

Where is the option for "Get rid of the drivel completely" for I would vote for that.

Peter.

Yup if the abomination of drivel continues to grow at its present rate and remains unchecked I fear we will continue to loose the likes of DPB and other legendary forum members who come here for woodwork related content........................... and are indeed great role models and learning resources for all woodworkers both newbies and vetrans alike

Must admit I am yet to learn anything from drivel other than patience and tolerance!!! This threat to one of the greatest forums in Australian internet history must be addressed .................it is time for us to unite against this foul beast ...................the abomination of drivel must be checked and put in its place

Tis time for the drivel police to come forth

Oh no ............I'm driveling again:-

Tis a disease I say ...............Ban it before we all fall foul to this threat to our beloved Forum

:o:o:o

[echnidna]

No need for an extra forum,
just make it compulsory that "DRIVEL" appears in the thread name.

[Lignum]

And the non drivellers hardly post anymore because of the drivel that has invaded the forums.

Where is the option for "Get rid of the drivel completely" for I would vote for that.

Peter.

I agree with Peter. Since the Friday thread started the forum has changed so much, and for the worse.

Now we have a big weekly blast of drivel and all other threads are to "stay on topic - no in jokes - no drivel" or else its edited/deleted.

Starting a wood based topic or replying to one now is a waste of time.

I prefered the older threads when their was no Friday rubbish and a mix of all the above in each normal thread posted. Thats what made this a unique forum because they were informative, at times hijaked with drivel and sometimes overflowed with passion and the odd bit of agro arguments. It was great. Now its to sanatised and boring. Lurking is starting to be the prefered option now.

[ozwinner]

I agree with Peter. Since the Friday thread started the forum has changed so much, and for the worse.

Now we have a big weekly blast of drivel and all other threads are to "stay on topic - no in jokes - no drivel" or else its edited/deleted.

Starting a wood based topic or replying to one now is a waste of time.

I prefered the older threads when their was no Friday rubbish and a mix of all the above in each normal thread posted. Thats what made this a unique forum because they were informative, at times hijaked with drivel and sometimes overflowed with passion and the odd bit of agro arguments. It was great. Now its to sanatised and boring. Lurking is starting to be the prefered option now.

What 'e said.

Al :(

[Groggy]

I think Lignum has made a pretty good observation here. It is made worse I think by the new "i Spy", people can keep the drivel flowing a lot faster using that.

[Stuart]

loose the likes of DPB and other legendary forum members

Almost too late to prevent that - he certainly doesn't post any more. :(


I agree with Peter. Since the Friday thread started the forum has changed so much, and for the worse.

Now we have a big weekly blast of drivel and all other threads are to "stay on topic - no in jokes - no drivel" or else its edited/deleted.

Starting a wood based topic or replying to one now is a waste of time.

I prefered the older threads when their was no Friday rubbish and a mix of all the above in each normal thread posted. Thats what made this a unique forum because they were informative, at times hijaked with drivel and sometimes overflowed with passion and the odd bit of agro arguments. It was great. Now its to sanatised and boring. Lurking is starting to be the prefered option now.

Mate, I TOTALLY agree with EVERY point you have made here, and yes including the ones between the lines.

[NewLou]

. Thats what made this a unique forum because they were informative, at times hijaked with drivel and sometimes overflowed with passion and the odd bit of agro arguments.

Thats what makes it an Aussie Forum. I think a consensus is close in that this is the formula that makes our forum unique.

For god sake Ban the Drivel threads turn the Rep system back to how its used to be (Support it) & endevor to keep a balance ( is a master at this)

Long live our FORUM!

REgards Lou:D:D:D

[johnc]

I would have to agree that the drivel is out of control and detracting from the forum. I started here for all the info which is great but we seem to be veering off course. Self censorship by the drivel brigade might see a bit more humour appearing back in some of the more serious posts.

John.

[watson]

Well I guess it is a WOOD working forum..........not having much 'puter access time, I get really peed off when a question post is swallowed up by drivel.....then at other times...with bugger all to do...I participate in Quiz Time and Just a joke.......I reckon they are the extent to which I would go for drivel....besides that they give the brain cells a go too!

[SPIRIT]

Stu if you have a look back at the Drivelers past posts, most of them have never done any woodwork at all, and if they have they havent posted it here..

Al :ol think that a unfair statment
l think if its in nothing to do with woodwork we can put up with some banter just not over the top
l also think who ever started the thread should keep control of it if any one starts to drivel or post in a way they don't like they should tell them to stop simple is it not .
so everybody please moderate your oun threads please when it's run its race lock it up
If you start a theard set the tone by repling to other posts on it a good example would be NewLou on finishings

must stop this in fighting ,,oneside has all the power so the winner is obvious a win win is the best outcome

that my view thanks

[Howdya do that]

Stu if you have a look back at the Drivelers past posts, most of them have never done any woodwork at all, and if they have they havent posted it here..

Al :o

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[Gra]

Since the Friday thread started the forum has changed so much, and for the worse.

Now we have a big weekly blast of drivel and all other threads are to "stay on topic - no in jokes - no drivel" or else its edited/deleted.

Starting a wood based topic or replying to one now is a waste of time.

I prefered the older threads when their was no Friday rubbish and a mix of all the above in each normal thread posted. Thats what made this a unique forum because they were informative, at times hijaked with drivel and sometimes overflowed with passion and the odd bit of agro arguments. It was great. Now its to sanatised and boring. Lurking is starting to be the prefered option now.

Does any one remeber the conga line or the ping pong games that ran across threads. all before the Friday threads came into existance. It isnt a new thing, it is just our member base has increased, with a corresponding increase in non woodworking based posts.

[masoth]

OK. I'm relatively new to the board, and I post in the Friday drivel. Because it's identified, in the title, I think no one would search it for any 'useful' information. I have not voted in the poll and I reckon the collected drivel one one day a week should be allowed, but also think it will "die a natural" death as Members lose interest.
As to drivel appearing in the more serious threads, I agree it should not overtake the topic under discussion, even when funny - but it shows the Australian sarcasm and wit which supposedly is part of our charm.
So, because I want the more serious posters to continue, I'll read but no longer contribute on Fridays. I do, however, believe the occasional irreverance posted should be accepted.

soth

[Big Shed]

I find the drivel thread on Friday annoying, not because I read it, but because it clogs up iSpy, There are more drivel posts there on Fridays than anything else and in the end you ignore everything on Friday.

This same point has come through from other comments.

I would like to make a suggestion, let the drivel thread continue, after all it gives a few under-employed blokes something to do on Fridays:rolleyes:, but stop the posts appearing in iSpy.
They can still show in New Posts, as it then appears as one box with the latest post and is easy to ignore.

[Groggy]

masoth, two things I'd like to try to clarify for you, but to others also.

The first is that sometimes the drivel threads are returned in searches because they contain key words, not because anyone has searched through them expecting to find something of substance (good luck with that!).

The second thing concerns me because this discussion about drivel is misunderstood. The moderators and admins are NOT that concerned about the general joking and conversation that creeps into threads, although we will try to stop it from hijacking threads or if it is totally off topic.

Drivel is meaningless, is generally not understood by visitors as it can be very "in-house" type "humour" (for want of a better word); sometimes only understood by the participants on that day, and senseless thereafter. It is typically (not always) single words or sentence stubs strung over a number of posts.

We are not trying to sanitise the board to woodwork topic only, the forums have been very successful before and should continue in the same vein. The quick riposte or smartasre comment is not going to be banned. If it spirals into a bunch of comments that detract from the original posters thread then - maybe - it becomes a judgement call at that point.

[Cliff Rogers]

... look back at the Drivelers past posts, most of them have never done any woodwork at all, and if they have they havent posted it here.....
Or maybe their posts & pictures got deleted. :rolleyes:

[Lignum]

Or maybe their posts & pictures got deleted. :rolleyes:

Is that what happend to all your woodwork posts and pics because i had a look for some and couldnt find them :wink: :)

[Cliff Rogers]

... i had a look for some and couldnt find them :wink: :)
You didn't try very hard....
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Only 3 of them are rude girly ones that you wouldn't look at. :p

[masoth]

Implied in my last post but perhaps not clearly enough, is the abhorent personal attacks some post.
Off-topic posts are inevitable and annoy me and others, but they are unavoidable because this is a forum and we ALL react to certian vibes.

Groggy said: "The first is that sometimes the drivel threads are returned in searches because they contain key words, not because anyone has searched through them expecting to find something of substance (good luck with that!).", and I'm sure few drivel posters have thought of that, and the virtual hijacking of the iSpy facility is another point probably not considered by drivel posters.

As indicated, I'll no longer contribute to the Friday Drivel

[Bleedin Thumb]

Drivel is meaningless, is generally not understood by visitors as it can be very "in-house" type "humour" (for want of a better word); sometimes only understood by the participants on that day, and senseless thereafter. It is typically (not always) single words or sentence stubs strung over a number of posts.




This sounds like "A woodies yarn" or in fact half the entries in " Nothing to do with woodwork".

I agree with lignums observation. Maybe we should just integrate it back into the threads and ask members to self moderate their posts. :rolleyes:

Also I agree with the comment re the instigator of the thread should be the one to ensure it stays on track. Then if they don't care why should the Mods or anyone else?:roll:

[RETIRED]

This sounds like "A woodies yarn" or in fact half the entries in " Nothing to do with woodwork".

I agree with lignums observation. Maybe we should just integrate it back into the threads and ask members to self moderate their posts. :rolleyes:

Also I agree with the comment re the instigator of the thread should be the one to ensure it stays on track. Then if they don't care why should the Mods or anyone else?:roll:After 24 hours the original poster cannot edit. You would be surprised at how many posters have deleted their own threads within that time because of the crap.

PS the original poster cannot delete other posters at any time.

[Bleedin Thumb]

I'm not sure I'm with you there .

I meant if someone - say myself instigates a serous thread about some woodworking theme and it starts to get hijacked or go off thread then I have the responsibility of telling my fellow members to stay focused or go away.
I don't believe there is any members that would be put out by that or that would deliberately ignore such a request.

Or am I being naive?

[echnidna]

Who could be bothered posting if you gotta keep the kiddies in line too.

[Groggy]

This sounds like "A woodies yarn" or in fact half the entries in " Nothing to do with woodwork"No, these threads are for off topic discussion or designed to cater for this type of discussion. The problem with the drivel, as has been stated a number of times, is it is getting into virtually every other forum.

Most of the discussion here is about topics that were never at issue. Please give me an argument to allow posting of meaningless, unconnected, unfunny, posts in threads other than those designed to take it (OS, Nothing to do with WW, A woodies yarn etc). Also explain why someone should be allowed to continually hijack threads with this drivel when it is, and always has been, against the rules. Finally, explain why the admins and mods should ignore requests from users such as yourself complaining that their threads have been hijacked or filled with dribble when the forum rules are quite clear on it.

Noting that these complaints are not coming from OS, A woodies yarn or the other appropriate areas.

[ozwinner]

I'm not sure I'm with you there .

I meant if someone - say myself instigates a serous thread about some woodworking theme and it starts to get hijacked or go off thread then I have the responsibility of telling my fellow members to stay focused or go away.
I don't believe there is any members that would be put out by that or that would deliberately ignore such a request.

Or am I being naive?

Now that would be neat!!
Self moderation from the members on their own threads..:cool:

Then all the mods could just sit here and read the posts as they pick the lint from their navels. :2tsup::2tsup:

Good call. :cool::cool:

It wont happen.:o:o

Al :U

[ozwinner]

Who could be bothered posting if you gotta keep the kiddies in line too.

Well said Bob :clap:.
Now you know how it is from this side. :woot:


Al :kissyou:

[Bleedin Thumb]

Sorry guys, I must be wearing blinkers but I haven't seen threads go so far off topic or swamped with drivel ( well not since the Friday thread started), they might be the types of threads I don't read or the threads aren't really that important in the first place.

I have noticed that important, informative threads get very little witty comment let alone drivel.

And Al, you may be right, but I think it may help if members started to look after their own threads.
Anyway I hope I'm not considered a driveler, I just like free speech and I'm an anarchist!

[ozwinner]

Sorry guys, I must be wearing blinkers but I haven't seen threads go so far off topic or swamped with drivel ( well not since the Friday thread started), they might be the types of threads I don't read or the threads aren't really that important in the first place.

I have noticed that important, informative threads get very little witty comment let alone drivel.

And Al, you may be right, but I think it may help if members started to look after their own threads.
Anyway I hope I'm not considered a driveler, I just like free speech and I'm an anarchist!

The reason you dont see the drivel is because the Mods get to it pretty quickly.

And we all want the free speech to continue, minus the mind numbing drivel.

Al :)

[echnidna]

Hey Bob :clap: well said.
Now you know how it is from this side. :woot:


Al :kissyou:

I saw that long afore yer became a mod Al. :wink:

I usta wonder how & Neil coped

[Lignum]

I have noticed that important, informative threads get very little witty comment let alone drivel.




Once apon a time not so long ago the majority of threads had all the above and more. As well as being informative and fun, they were also full of life.

Posts now days (apart from still being very informative) come across a bit lifeless, and unless you are interested in the particular topic their is no reason now to look.

Good questions are still being asked, great WIP`s posted, so that hasnt changed, but the responses are generaly more straight to the point and clinical and the thread vanishes due to the higher portion of meaningless posts.

Is it just coincadence this has slowly been happening since the Friday drivel fest has started? Its my opinion it has. To some Drivel Fest is harmless, but it apears to have affected the forums dynamics and as far as im concerned and thats not a good thing.

[masoth]

My last post, I think.
What is worse, 'Friday Drivel', or a personal sarcastic attack like:

"Or maybe their posts & pictures got deleted. :rolleyes: " followed by:

"Is that what happend to all your woodwork posts and pics because i had a look for some and couldnt find them :wink: :)"

bye, Masoth<!-- / message -->

[Bleedin Thumb]

Once apon a time not so long ago the majority of threads had all the above and more. As well as being informative and fun, they were also full of life.

Posts now days (apart from still being very informative) come across a bit lifeless, and unless you are interested in the particular topic their is no reason now to look.

Good questions are still being asked, great WIP`s posted, so that hasn't changed, but the responses are generally more straight to the point and clinical and the thread vanishes due to the higher portion of meaningless posts.

Is it just coincadence this has slowly been happening since the Friday drivel fest has started? Its my opinion it has. To some Drivel Fest is harmless, but it apears to have affected the forums dynamics and as far as im concerned and thats not a good thing.

Yeh I agree with that, its all part of the fabric that makes this place worth visiting ( contributing towards and learning from)

We run the risk that one small group is taking on the role of arborator (sensor) of what constitutes humour. Just because they don't find it witty do they have the qualifications to dictate to the rest of the members what is?

I don't mean this as a jab at anyone I just would like to show my deep philosophical disapproval of censorship.

[ozwinner]

I don't mean this as a jab at anyone I just would like to show my deep philosophical disapproval of censorship.

Non taken.

Its good we can talk about why the forums are here, and what direction we want the forums to take.

Censorship is the last thing on all of the Mods minds, they would like nothing more than to just log in and enjoy the fun and banter like everyone else.

Mods dont like censorship any more than you do, in fact they hate it.
Unfortunately some members like to push the boundaries, and complain when they are moderated.

Al :)

[NewLou]

I don't mean this as a jab at anyone I just would like to show my deep philosophical disapproval of censorship.

This is fine if the forum you frequent hasent got a purpose. The Hottest mail is that this one has....................its called Woodwork.

Unfortunately larger groups of human beings arnt great at self moderating n self managing particularly if the "Community" hasent got a common purpose. Thus the forum rules are given to us as a guideline in regards to whats appropriate n whats not.

My purpose here is to learn I dont come here to socialise tell jokes give others a hard time or drivel. My lifes forfilling enough not to have to do this daily in cyberworld others are different n I respect that..................what ever floats your boat

The other purpose I have here is to share information so that skills n techniques related to the craft of woodworking that I love dont get lost or forgotten. For my mind All the pizz n drivel detracts from this.......................

As with all great formulas with most things unique I conceed that its all about balance I just hope the pendulum swings more towards Woodworking than anything else

Regards Lou

[Stuart]

Once upon a time the moderators could participate in the forums pretty steathily, only occasionally having to moderate over a heated argument (about woodworking too most of the time), and knock the occasional bit of spam on the head.

Witty retorts etc were all part of the forum, and generally questions were answered before the usual suspects started to divert the flow - fine.

These days, the vast majority of spam encountered is internally generated, and as Lignum noted, seemed to come to a head around the time that the first Friday thread got hijacked. That first one seemed pretty interesting - people relaxing as it was Friday, talking about their weekend to come, taking pics of their workplace and sharing them etc.

The current version of the Friday thread has nothing in common with that one, and as much as it is not spam in the true sense of the word, it and the rest of the drivel now infiltrating the forum is as insidious.

Needless to say, I'm not the only one becoming bored with all this crap, and have found myself spending less and less time here. As Sturdee (Peter) observed, it doesn't inspire one to bother starting a serious post, or making another video...........

[Bleedin Thumb]

Its good we can talk about why the forums are here, and what direction we want the forums to take.

Al :)


I think thats a very good point Al.

It seems that at the moment the forum is trying to reach as broad an audience as possible.... but is that possible whilst remaining relevant or important to anyone? If you get my drift.

What I'm trying to say is ....I come here because I like the conversation with other people ( mostly middle aged Aussie blokes) discussing life, interwoven around a common theme of what we do with wood. This can sometimes be serious, sometimes irreverent and funny, sometimes heated debate, just like life.
If I wanted only serious wood work discussions like Lou described I go elsewhere.. but I dont. If I wanted to discuss the colour of curtain selection etc I wouldn't ask you guys, I'd go elsewhere.......

Sometimes the drivel annoys me also but its part of the scene and I ignore it or not depending on my mood but I would hardly say that its a big deal, not enough to throw in the towel about.

At 48 I'm too young to be a grumpy old man. Give me a couple of years ....:)

EDIT I'm only 47 according to my CP yipee!

[ozwinner]

At 48 I'm too young to be a grumpy old man.


Are you sure..:roll:

Al :q

[Terry B]

I've been busy and not read all of this before tonight.
I do contribute to the Friday thread and I admit I'm not much of a woody. I do like my turning and don't read much in the other forums. I have not noticed any threads being taken over by drivel in the turning forum before or after I started contributing to the Friday forum. If I can contribute in my areas of knowledge then I will and I hope that everyone else does the same. This may not be in woodwork but lots of other fields are represented in the wide selection of people that contribute to this forum.
I don't see the problem with the Friday thread. If you don't want to read it then don't. Just keep your browser pointed at the forum you are interested in and it magically doesn't worry you.:o
I don't like the occasional personal attacks that I have seen but these seem uncommon.
Lets all keep it fun and informative.

[Waldo]

I don't see the problem with the Friday thread. If you don't want to read it then don't. Just keep your browser pointed at the forum you are interested in and it magically doesn't worry you.:o
I don't like the occasional personal attacks that I have seen but these seem uncommon.
Lets all keep it fun and informative.

G'day,

:aro-u: What Terry said. :2tsup:

[AlexS]

Must admit I don't read or contribute to the Friday thread (Friday's the day I do 'real' work), but I reckon Terry's summed it up. Unless its causing a problem or wastinng storage space....don't know if that's the case but guess we'll be told if it is.

[DavidG]

Why not put the Friday thread in to open slather.

Only select verified users can see it.
Most Friday threaders are open slather users.
The Goggle bots won't see it.
Kids etc won't see it.
Winges and attacks etc may diminish.

[Waldo]

Why not put the Friday thread in to open slather.

Only select verified users can see it.
Most Friday threaders are open slather users.
The Goggle bots won't see it.
Kids etc won't see it.
Winges and attacks etc may diminish.

G'day DavidG,

I don't subscribe to open slather for the reson that I don't want to slang it off against other Forum members, which is the prime purpose of O/Slather, as I understand it.

I don't want to have to have a password for Open Slather just to participate in Friday Drivel. If you don't like it you don't need to read it.

We don't slang of at other members, except for those who participate in it, and everyone understands that everything is in good fun.

I have no interest in the Pen Turning, Intarsia (what is it?), Green woodworking and Wooden Boats so I don't read them. Simple solution.

Nor do I read The Rip in the Fabric, is it that far removed from Friday Drivel? If so, why not also move it to Open Slather - because it's not the place for it.

Leave it as is.

[Clinton1]

Please give me an argument to allow posting of meaningless, unconnected, unfunny, posts in threads other than those designed to take it (OS, Nothing to do with WW, A woodies yarn etc).
Also explain why someone should be allowed to continually hijack threads with this drivel when it is, and always has been, against the rules.
Finally, explain why the admins and mods should ignore requests from users such as yourself complaining that their threads have been hijacked or filled with dribble when the forum rules are quite clear on it.

So, the problem is with threads being hijacked..... no worries, seems very fair.
i.e. don't post dribble and tossery in people's threads, do it in the right place.
Seems to me that if someone is becoming a problem with constant hijacking of threads, that they would get a warning, or the boot in short order?

A possible solution:
I'd respect a "pain in the backside of the moderators" rule... if I can put it forward?
i.e. get two warnings in a fortnight/month and the third gets your account locked for a fortnight/month, further PITA posts get accounts locked at Mods discretion. (to stop mbrs racking up two warnings as a way to 'compete')
Seems like a good way to manage the excessive demands on the mods time when threads get hijacked with dribble and tossery.

This rule doesn't mean you can't carry on with banter like normal, just that you respect others threads.

Further solution:
A simple way to provide an outlet for the dribble would be if the members so inclined opened an instant messenger account that allowed group 'calls' ... msn messenger might provide this. ??
A messenger service like the msn one provides 'on-line' notifications and messenger service user names could be added to users signatures.

Gotta admit its the rare moments of brilliant wit that is a big part of the attraction of this forum...
like Soundmans "Boilermaker Moonwalk" post in the gloves on angle grinder thread.... :D
or the threads that have been hijacked off into absolute lunacy, and there have been a few. :2tsup: Great value to sit back and chuckle at the hissy fits.

Hope a solution thats good for both the mods and users can be found.

[Waldo]

Gotta admit its the rare moments of brilliant wit that is a big part of the attraction of this forum...
like Soundmans "Boilermaker Moonwalk" post in the gloves on angle grinder thread.... :D
or the threads that have been hijacked off into absolute lunacy, and there have been a few. :2tsup: Great value to sit back and chuckle at the hissy fits.

Hope a solution thats good for both the mods and users can be found.

G'day,

I totally agree with Clinton1, and it's the reason that I find this such a pleasure to be part of, besides being very imformative and helpful. Lose the wit and humour and this Forum will be as dead as so many other Forums. The Apple Forum is a prime example, over moderated and you can't say anything that is even against something Apple even when it's justified without being kinghit by an over zealous mod.

Don't kill it. :C May I suggest that's what brings so many hits to this Forum.

[Sturdee]

Gotta admit its the rare moments of brilliant wit that is a big part of the attraction of this forum...


That's just the point.

The rare moments of brilliant wit are like the proverbial blue moon. Very seldom indeed and most of the time it is just drivel. In fact the drivel is often so bad that I question whether the drivellers are indeed adults for they sound so childish and puerile.

The solution is simple, keep all the drivel in the Friday thread, which is not in question, but keep it out of the rest.


Peter.

[Clinton1]

Don't kill it


See Sturdee's last line.

None of the mods are suggesting everyone should be straight laced.... just not hijack threads with dribble. fair enough for me.

[black1]

if people want to drivel let em go. if ya dont like it dont read it!

[Sturdee]

if people want to drivel let em go!


Fully agree, but where would they go to.

No other bulletin board, especially dedicated to woodworking, would accept a bunch of drivellers. This board appears to be the last outpost for them.


Peter.

[MurrayD99]

I've been busy and not read all of this before tonight.
I do contribute to the Friday thread and I admit I'm not much of a woody. I do like my turning and don't read much in the other forums. I have not noticed any threads being taken over by drivel in the turning forum before or after I started contributing to the Friday forum. If I can contribute in my areas of knowledge then I will and I hope that everyone else does the same. This may not be in woodwork but lots of other fields are represented in the wide selection of people that contribute to this forum.
I don't see the problem with the Friday thread. If you don't want to read it then don't. Just keep your browser pointed at the forum you are interested in and it magically doesn't worry you.:o
I don't like the occasional personal attacks that I have seen but these seem uncommon.
Lets all keep it fun and informative.

Quite right Terry. I commute Monday & Friday 250 miles each way so I don't get to spend as much time making things as I'd like, or did before the travelling started. But I read everything about woodwork I can get my hands on and I can't wait for the time when I get to build the increasing number of projects that are "on ice". Friday drivel builds community. I'd seriously miss it.

[Wood Butcher]

Friday drivel builds community. I'd seriously miss it.

Once again for the record, The friday thread is not being banned!!! It will be closed on the following saturday morning and deleted the following friday. All we are asking is that you keep the nonsensical drivel for that one thread. Drivel in other forums will not be tolerated!

[Waldo]

G'day Woodbutcher,

Without being slapped or whatever, may I ask what will happen to the 90% of threads that contain some drivel? Will those people be castigated? Does this mean this Forum is going the way of other staid Forums?

[Wood Butcher]

WE are not trying to stop friendly banter and good fun, but the absolute idiotic posts are getting too much. There is a fine line between fun and drivel and at the moment we are trying to work out where the line should stop.

Obviously it would be too much to go back through every previous post, this is for future posts and no the forum will not be going the way of others.

[DavidG]

I bet at this point the mods are pulling their hair out. (if they have any)
Who would want to be a mod????

Waldo. I subscribe to the Friday thread and read most of it. I think some of it is funny.

I was suggesting a method to hide it from the majority of people who object.

What about a drivel section like open slather with an open password (drivel) for those who wish to be involved.
That keeps it hidden from those who don't like it.

[Waldo]

G'day David,

No worries, I understand where you were coming from and that you are part of Friday Drivel. :2tsup: I just don't like the idea of it being part of Open Slather. If it were like Open Slather with a p/word but not within Open Slather I'd be up for that.

[Wood Butcher]

Why are people having a problem accepting the idea that you can have a friday drivel thread in the nothing to do with woodwork! Keep the drivel to that one thread once a week and if you don't want to know about it don't read it!

[Waldo]

if you don't want to know about it don't read it!

G'day Woodbutcher,

Dunno :? . My concern is that comments only relating to woodwork will be tolerated and nothing else. e.g what would happen in the future if this were to happen?

http://www6.cyanide.com.au/~woodwork/showthread.php?t=47236

Just using it as an example, it contains what might be termed drivel, it contains a bit of fun and the posts aren't on topic. This thread by no means offends me, it's what makes this Forum great.

[Howdya do that]

Why are people having a problem accepting the idea that you can have a friday drivel thread in the nothing to do with woodwork! Keep the drivel to that one thread once a week and if you don't want to know about it don't read it!

End this thread Here :please2:

We have a Friday thread:clap: and 99.9% of us know what sort of humour is allowed (if you dont read some of Gumby's posts) I am sure the Mods will let the 0.1% know.

[Wongo]

We didn't have a Friday thread last week so can we have 2 this Friday? :please2:

[Gra]

Yes we Did Wongo, it just wasnt on Friday....

[Stuart]

And so the drivel begins, and so this thread ends.

[Wood Butcher]

G'day Woodbutcher,

Dunno :? . My concern is that comments only relating to woodwork will be tolerated and nothing else. e.g what would happen in the future if this were to happen?

http://www6.cyanide.com.au/~woodwork/showthread.php?t=47236 (http://www6.cyanide.com.au/%7Ewoodwork/showthread.php?t=47236)

Just using it as an example, it contains what might be termed drivel, it contains a bit of fun and the posts aren't on topic. This thread by no means offends me, it's what makes this Forum great.

Waldo, let it go. Let the mods worry about what is drivel or not. As a last word, in that thread I would call it more of friendly banter and yes that is the sort of thing that makes this forum great. If a post is deemed be a consensus of the mods to be drivel it will be deleted - end of story. Can I think of an example - no, but that is our problem not yours!