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Harry72

28th April 2007, 11:02 PM

Looking at upgrading my DP, got a Ryobi at the moment and I'm not happy with it(its junk).
Budget is up to $1300, all I can find in this price range is a JET*JDP-20MF or a TRUPRO DP222 both about the $1000mark. There are others very similar to these, but I've promised myself Im not going to buy a cheap brand machine ever again...

The Jet has more speed at a 150-4200 rpm range, the trupro has a 210-2160 RPM range.
I cant really see the need for the extra 2000rpm... can you?

The Trupro seems to be a heavier and larger machine.

Harry72

28th April 2007, 11:07 PM

Pinched these specs from "Gregory Machinery Pty Ltd" I will be buying from them if I get one of these models.

JET spec's are

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</td> <td height="20" width="265">Swing</td> <td width="245">419mm</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20" width="20">
</td> <td height="20" width="265">Spindle Travel</td> <td width="245">118mm</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20" width="20">
</td> <td height="20" width="265">Drilling Capacity</td> <td width="245">25.4mm</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20" width="20">
</td> <td height="20" width="265">Chuck Size</td> <td width="245">19mm</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">
</td> <td height="20" width="265">Spindle Distance to Base</td> <td width="245">1185mm</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">
</td> <td height="20" width="265">Spindle Distance to Table (max)</td> <td width="245">740mm</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">
</td> <td height="20" width="265">Table Size</td> <td width="245">473mm x 410mm</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">
</td> <td height="20" width="265">Spindle Taper</td> <td width="245">MT3</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">
</td> <td height="20" width="265">Column Diameter</td> <td width="245">86mm</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">
</td> <td height="20" width="265">Number of Spindle Speeds</td> <td width="245">12</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">
</td> <td height="20" width="265">Range of Spindle Speeds</td> <td width="245">150-4200 rpm</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">
</td> <td height="20" width="265">Base Size</td> <td width="245">467mm x 410mm</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">
</td> <td height="20" width="265">Motor</td> <td width="245">1.5Hp, 1Ph</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">
</td> <td height="20" width="265">Net Weight</td> <td width="245">131kgs
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Harry72

28th April 2007, 11:13 PM

The Trupro specs are

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</td> <td width="510"> Available in 1 or 3 phase </td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20" width="20">
</td> <td width="510">Riken Mirco Switch fitted </td> </tr> </tbody></table></td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">
</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">Technical Information:</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top"><table class="maintext" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="530"> <tbody><tr> <td height="20" width="20">
</td> <td width="265">Max Drilling Capacity </td> <td width="245">32mm</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20" width="20">
</td> <td width="265">Spindle Taper </td> <td width="245">MT4/JT3, MT4/B18 </td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20" width="20">
</td> <td width="265">Chuck</td> <td width="245">16mm</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20" width="20">
</td> <td width="265">Max Spindle Stroke </td> <td width="245">122mm
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</td> <td width="265">Swing</td> <td width="245">535mm</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20" width="20">
</td> <td width="265">Number of Speed </td> <td width="245">9</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20" width="20">
</td> <td width="265">Spindle Speed </td> <td width="245">50HZ 210-2160 RPM
60HZ 250-2600 RPM
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</td> <td width="265">Max Distance from spindle to table </td> <td width="245">720mm</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">
</td> <td>Diameter Distance from max Spindle to Base</td> <td>1230mm</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">
</td> <td>Diameter of column</td> <td>92mm</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">
</td> <td>Size of table </td> <td>473 x 410mm</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">
</td> <td>Size of base </td> <td>572 x 495mm </td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">
</td> <td>Overall Height </td> <td>1780mm</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">
</td> <td>Motor</td> <td>1HP
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</td> <td>Net Weight</td> <td>167.5kg</td> </tr> </tbody></table></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> 
I see cant by the pictures if the trupro has a depth stop like the JET or the type that locks the depth by the spindle handle?

The only other DP's I can find are the new Powermatic or the not released yet Delta which both probably wont be available here or may well be out of my price range?
It would be nice to push a button the change speeds!

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DJ’s Timber

28th April 2007, 11:31 PM

Going by the specs, the Trupro looks to be a better allrounder, slightly more travel, swing and deeper distance to base.

Had a look on Gregory's site and I would say the depth stop is the type that locks on the spindle handle, bit hard to tell but looks like there's something there.

As for speed, I don't think I have ever gone over 2200rpm on mine (not a Trupro) which can go up to about 3200rpm from memory

rodm

28th April 2007, 11:35 PM

Hi Harry
The Jet specs look fine and the Trupro is a larger (in size) going by the specs.
Interesting that the Jet with a lower bottom speed and 1.5HP motor is rated for 25mm drilling while the Trupro has a higher bottom speed and 1HP and rated for 32mm drilling. Hmmmm.

Low down speed is important if you want to drill large diameter in steel. Quill travel is never long enough so make sure there is plenty of travel there.

Square table is good as well but it means you will have to have a sacrifical piece on the table for all through holes. They don't have the centre hole like a round table has. Make sure it has a rack for the table as these are quite heavy - they usually do with the square table.

Also it is handy to have a large spindle to column distance to be able to drill further into your job.

Harry72

29th April 2007, 10:24 PM

I fired off a email with a few questions to Gregorys, about the depth stop and which one they think is the better machine.

Harry72

30th April 2007, 06:15 PM

Got an answer, they reckon the JET is a better finished machine and has a better depth stop(very important!).
I asked them if they could measure the runout for me, they reckon it would add a fair bit to the price and JET measure them to a set tolerance from factory.

I think the JET is the one that belongs in my shop, I would like to personally check one out 1st hand but thats not possible, there's no JET dealers here in SA(?) and Gregorys is a bit of a sunday drive away...

Harry72

30th April 2007, 06:29 PM

MY 1st JET machine is ordered!

Harry72

10th May 2007, 11:27 PM

The new arrival...

Left the old Ryobi near for size comparison!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/ST170ish/front-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/ST170ish/side.jpg
Size matters!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/ST170ish/sizematters.jpg

The only thing I dont like is the belt tension thumbscrews are plastic... just like a cheap Ryobi, might use the ones I fixed up off the Ryobi.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/ST170ish/thumbscrews.jpg

m2c1Iw

10th May 2007, 11:48 PM

Harry,
Looks like definate divorce material to me, SWMBO would have a fit if she found 2 drill presses in the shed let alone a Jet. Lucky b.........

Mike

Groggy

10th May 2007, 11:58 PM

That is a very nice looking table Harry, and drill! I see the other drill press is so miffed it turned its back :U

BobL

11th May 2007, 02:31 AM

Hi Harry, looking good. I think you will really appreciate the ease with which such a beast should do things like use the bigger sizes of hole saws and Forstner bits. Not to mention the things you should be able to do in metal.

Cheers

Harry72

11th May 2007, 01:52 PM

Yep Groggy... its on its way to stand face 1st in the corner!
BobL, took a 50mm forstner to some syd bluegum... like butter and at 1000rpm, the ryobi couldnt do it at the lowest speed without taking at least 2 minutes:)
Im making nice a adjustable table for it now. The ryobi is getting stripped of its motor and pulleys to make a downdraught table... or soup up me workshop's swampy aircon!

Studley 2436

11th May 2007, 02:06 PM

Boy Harry that is some gear you have in your shop now!

Nice buy

Next SA Shed meet at Harry's so we can all see what a good shed is meant to look like!

Studley

DJ’s Timber

11th May 2007, 02:09 PM

Nice one Harry, bet that hurt the hip pocket :o but just can imagine the smile on your face when you were unpacking and putting it together :U

Tankstand

11th May 2007, 05:02 PM

Very nice Harry,

I'm still agonising over which one to choose.:rolleyes:

Harry72

12th May 2007, 11:23 PM

DJ, only cost me 1 overtime, the company I work for(Zinifex)gives us workers a $1000 worth of shares per year they've gone from $1.87ea to $17.35, so we get nice dividend cheque every 6 mths... guess what it gets spent on!
Did have a big smile too... till I tried to lift the main top part, lucky I got a engine crane.

Tanky... NIKE(just do it!)

Nearly finished the table for it I post up a pic or two soon.