PDR Racer State Titles???

[catbuilder]

Hi All

Need some motivation to get back building the PD Racer, have recently acquired the materials to finish said boat.:;

So is this something that we should or could look at? Are the next Aussie Titles being discussed?

Do we know how many boats are in say Vic, SA, NS....now?

[Cliff Rogers]

...Do we know how many boats are in say Vic, SA, NS....now?
If you go here (http://www.pdracer.com/fleets/index.htm)you can see how many are in Oz but they aren't broken up into states.

[Boatmik]

Not all listed are OZ PDRs - I don't think Karl's is. Good news is that a lot of OZ PDRs are starting appear in other countries in the longer list - look for curved sheerlines in the pics on the page that Cliff pointed out.

I've left the email addresses in for those who don't mind being contacted.

If you click on the boat name a new tab or window should open with a picture of the boat. If that page shows a message like a "403 Forbidden" message just reload by clicking that tab or window and the picture should appear second time around.

Mooloolaba QLD
#75 Peter Hydman (Biting Midge on this forum)
"WALKS like a duck" (http://www.pdracer.com/fleets/75.jpg) website (http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=28107) PDRacer.info (http://pdracer.info/) Video (http://www.vmix.com/viewArtist.php?ID=29738)
#76 Michael Storer ([email protected]) "TALKS like a duck" (http://www.pdracer.com/fleets/76.jpg) website (http://members.ozemail.com.au/%7Estorerm) PDRacer.net (http://pdracer.net/)
Country Victoria
#118 Rob Johnson "Overundersidewaysdown" (http://www.pdracer.com/fleets/118.jpg) website (http://www.flickr.com/photos/boatmik/sets/72157594384558679/) (Dopey driver on this forum)
Budgewoi NSW
#120 Karl Valentine "marmalade" (http://www.pdracer.com/fleets/120.jpg)
Mt Barker, SA
#122 Duck Flat Wooden Boats ([email protected]) I think it's a Duck (http://www.pdracer.com/fleets/122.jpg) website (http://www.duckflatwoodenboats.com/)
#123 Duck Flat Wooden Boats ([email protected]) PUNK (http://www.pdracer.com/fleets/123.jpg) website (http://www.duckflatwoodenboats.com/)
Metro Adelaide
#124 Robin Badenock "BLU" (http://www.pdracer.com/fleets/124.jpg) website (http://pdracer.blogspot.com/2007/04/another-oz-pdr-hits-water-blu-124.html)
Melbourne? Victoria?
#127 Iain Johnson "TBC" (http://www.pdracer.com/fleets/127.jpg)
#141 Steve Clutterbuck "Arfa" (http://www.pdracer.com/fleets/141.jpg)
Canberra
#129 Peter Sutherland un-named (http://www.pdracer.com/fleets/129.jpg)
Unknown
#144 Nick Foreman "I'm Quacker's" (http://www.pdracer.com/fleets/144.jpg)
#159 James Elcock "J2" (http://www.pdracer.com/fleets/159.jpg)

[catbuilder]

So not really enough for state get togethers, thats a shame.

But I've managed to motivate myself, I have a sheet of marine ply in the lounge room as we speak, I've run out bits and pieces to make a batten for drawing the curves, so I'll get something tomorrow to do that, and finish cutting all the bits out, then there might be a house move and baby, but thats a month away yet, so I might put it together before all hell breaks loose.

Soooo, what about the next Australian Championships? or is it the Worlds this time? Same place, same time, or something else?

Regards

Matt

[Cliff Rogers]

.....But I've managed to motivate myself, ....
Good on ya. :2tsup:

I have the plans (free set for being a proofreader)
I have the T Shirt (given to me by a bloke who bought the plans & a couple of shirts)
I've joined the local Wooden Boat Association (twisted arm)
I have a couple of sheds full of tools (going rusty)
All I need is the..... :? wood?
I'm getting there, slowly, these things take time, like a good dust collector system. :D

[Boatmik]

Ha,

Guys, Guys, Guys - you don't know how much fun it is having even two of these little critters on the same piece of water on the same day. And more and more plans are being sold in both Australia and the USA with a smattering in other corners.

Midge and I were trying to think of formats for low key racing when only two boats were available and came up with the idea of a round robin type event where each person gets a coloured ribbon and the resullts and updates are posted on a blackboard in the shoreside BBQ area. Keep the races really short and have a heap of them.

People can see that Red is racing Green and that Green and Bloe are at the top of the rankings so far for the day.

Midge and I usually race against each other round the island in the Mooloola River - it takes between half and a full hour. Or just try to break the record round the island if there is no=one to sail the second boat.

It is about having a good play on the water.

As a mind expansion exercise (I'm not being perjorative here - it operated that way for me) have a look at my latest update of the OZ PDR Blog
http://pdracer.blogspot.com/
There is an podcast interview with Shorty Routh - the initiator of the class - it really reminded my very nicely of the real reasons to be involved in this boating lark. The other thing is that there is a video of Shorty doing the sail that won him the endurance record at that time.

Excellent!

Lots of the records are pretty acheivable for boats of OZ PDR calibre. One of you will definitely be able to break my world speed record!

As far as a nationals goes, maybe it is possible to work out somewhere where a few of us can get to. If we even have two or three or seven boats and have more sailors than boats then we can use a round robin system and keep it all friendly.

Or as friendly as we can!!!! :-)

MIK

Another PDR video I found really satisfying was the one of the two kids that take a PDR on a cruise.
http://video.google.com/url?docid=420502799860756932

[catbuilder]

Hi Mik

I'm not trying to make them a racing class as such. But was thinking it would a good way for people to get together and show off their PDR's. I agree having another one to muck around with would be good, and mini races with more would be heaps of fun.

I'd certainly like to see a few of us hit the water, maybe SA and VIC could get together somewhere, QLD and NSW could also?

Regards

Matt

[Cliff Rogers]

......I'm not trying to make them a racing class as such. .....
But that is what they are supposed to be.... that is why they are called the PDRacer.


The PDRacer is a one design racing sailboat that is basically a plywood box with a curved bottom, and is the easiest boat in the world to build.

[Christopha]

Sail around an island Mik? Try Tassie! The PDs' are a legend so why not a lap of a REAL island mate and get yerself in the reckud books? ;)

[Cliff Rogers]

Mik is already in the 'reckud book' (http://www.pdracer.com/records/speed/mik/index.htm) :2tsup:

[Boatmik]

Sail around an island Mik? Try Tassie! The PDs' are a legend so why not a lap of a REAL island mate and get yerself in the reckud books? ;)

Christopha Old Bean!!!

Long time no hear!

If you look at the PDRacer records page you can see that almost all the sailing records are "sitting ducks" for a boat that sails well.

If I could find a motor boat to keep an eye on me I'd try lots of stupid things!

Maybe even without a motor boat it would be possible to do some real distance sailing or get serious about speed sailing - I didn't really try hard enough!!!

And of course there are other records to shoot for.

http://www.pdracer.com/records/carry/rick.jpg
http://www.pdracer.com/records/fish/shorty1/dd6.jpg

Here is the list - I think midge holds a few of the travelling ones.

Speed & Distance Records
Voyage (http://www.pdracer.com/records/voyage/index.htm)
24 Hour Distance (http://www.pdracer.com/records/24hour/index.htm)
Peak Speed (http://www.pdracer.com/records/speed/index.htm)
Speed Over Distance (http://www.pdracer.com/records/speed2/index.htm)
Rowing, Paddle & Pedal (http://www.pdracer.com/records/rowing/index.htm)


Charactaristic Records - can be combined with above
Largest Sail (http://www.pdracer.com/records/sizesail/index.htm)
Annual Mileage (http://www.pdracer.com/records/annual/index.htm)
Weight Carried & Bodies Aboard (http://www.pdracer.com/records/carry/index.htm)

Largest Puddle Duck Race (http://www.pdracer.com/records/bigrace/index.htm)
Most Hulls Built (http://www.pdracer.com/records/hulls/index.htm)
Global Match Race Circuit (http://www.pdracer.com/records/global/index.htm)

Live Aboard (http://www.pdracer.com/records/live/index.htm)
Altitude (http://www.pdracer.com/records/altitude/index.htm)
Road Trip (http://www.pdracer.com/records/roadtrip/index.htm)
Fishing (http://www.pdracer.com/records/fish/index.htm)

Land Speed (http://www.pdracer.com/records/landsped/index.htm)
Iceboat (http://www.pdracer.com/records/iceboat/index.htm)
Sledding (http://www.pdracer.com/records/sledding/index.htm)
MIK

[Boatmik]

But that is what they are supposed to be.... that is why they are called the PDRacer.

Ha, but they are meant to subvert the normal idea of racing. You know the one - the blokes all line up at the start before the race and then line up at the club bar and brag about it after over copious quantities of amber fluid.

Francis Herreshoff once said that Civility went out of racing when women and children were excluded from racing.

I think the same thing happened when coleslaw was excluded but to a much more damaging level

As far as racing goes I foresee lots of BBQs with coleslaw and lots of people of all genders and ages being semi serious about the racing with the occasional hotshot appearing and trying to blitz the fleet.

If they do too well they will have to carry a child or two :-) or they can be allowed to do too well by the others.

And everyone goes home a winner!!!

MIK

[Cliff Rogers]

Mine will have an esky on board. :D

[Boatmik]

The esky will also keep the coleslaw in good condition too!

MIK

[Cliff Rogers]

Hadn't thought of that. :2tsup:

[Boatmik]

Howdy All,

There have been rumblings in the wider PDRacer world about just this topic and they are working towards having a "postal race" at the same time as the yearly world championships.

The upshot is that at the same time as the Normal PDRacer World Championship each year there will be a

SAME DAY - DIFFERENT PLACE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP
Idea is that everyone who wants to can sail 5 miles - measured point to point through any number of points - in an area of their choosing within a 3 day window of the world championships.

The results will be compiled and a winner announced.

Experienced sailors will see immediately that there is no chance of this being a completely fair event. Someone will get just the right wind and run away with it.

But what it does is create what could be quite a big annual web event.

You can read the draft rules and comment on them here (if you comment you comments will be visible to a few hundred people)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pdracer/message/13985

Or to look at the previous discussion of that and other topics go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pdracer/messages

Of course there is nothing to stop us from doing this at a national level as well. We will have all the local hotshots looking over maps, checking prevailing winds, plotting points and calculating angles. Then weeks of whinging and complaining after. Just like a real national championship!

Best wishes
MIK