derekcohen
9th October 2007, 02:32 AM
My friend Larry is adamant that bevel up planes cannot be cambered as easily as bevel down planes
“… for the low angle blade profile to have the same projection as the common pitch plane it would have to have more than three times as much camber…”
Larry has a point. My own experiments have shown that BU planes require more camber than BD planes. It is for this reason that cambering BU planes has been considered a weakness in the design. Hopefully we can put an end to this view now. The fact is it is dead easy to camber a BU blade … it still will require a larger camber, but this is not a significant issue as long as you follow one simple rule. Let me show you how it is done.
The Way to Cambering Bevel Up Blades.
Here it is in a nut-shell … grind the primary bevel on all plane blades to 25 degrees. Don’t try to camber any blade that is greater than this, such as one with a 38- or 50 degree primary bevel (such as those available as optional purchases through Veritas). The latter blades are perceived to be a shortcut to honing, but this is an illusion.
BU planes blades are best prepared with a microbevel. There is no difference if this is added to a 25-, 35, or 45 degree primary bevel. However, the steeper the primary bevel, the more steel to remove when honing/grinding a camber. With a 25 degree primary bevel there is relatively little waste to remove. With a 50 degree bevel … well, you’ll drive yourself insane trying to do so..
What kind of camber do you want?
Cambers vary from a .001” thin shaving on a finish smoother to that of the “traditional fore/jack plane used for roughing would have about 1/16" of camber”, as Larry notes. Mmm … can a BU Jack produce a cambered shaving that thick? Easy-peasy!
To illustrate that there is very little extra effort in preparing the camber on a (bevel up) Veritas Low Angle Jack compared to, say, a (bevel down) Stanley #5 ˝, I prepared the following tutorial.
What I do
The first step is to start with a blade with a 25 degree primary bevel. I do my flat grinding on a belts sander on which I built a jig similar to a Tormek (this was published in a past FWW magazine). If I have to remove a lot of metal, I will use a 40 or 60 grit belt. This runs quite cool.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/Sharpening/Camber%20for%20LAJ%20II/1Beltsanderwithjig.jpg
Here is an example of a 25 degree straight grind on the belt sander …
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/Sharpening/Camber%20for%20LAJ%20II/1aGrindsquareat25degrees.jpg
The second step is to construct a template for grinding the camber.
Prepare a block of wood the same width as the blade and mark off 1/16” at each end, then draw an arc across this. Remove the waste, so ….
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/Sharpening/Camber%20for%20LAJ%20II/2Templateforcambering.jpg
Mmmm… I think I took off a bit more than 1/16”. Looks like 5/64”.
The completed template looks like this ..
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/Sharpening/Camber%20for%20LAJ%20II/3Templatetopside.jpg
and
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/Sharpening/Camber%20for%20LAJ%20II/4Templateunderside.jpg
Adjusted to grind a 25 degree bevel, it works like this …
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/Sharpening/Camber%20for%20LAJ%20II/6Grindtheblade.jpg
The result is a cambered 25 degree primary bevel ….
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/Sharpening/Camber%20for%20LAJ%20II/7Camberedprimarybevel.jpg
And, yes Bugbear, the camber does indeed match the template! Look …
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/Sharpening/Camber%20for%20LAJ%20II/7aMatchingthetemplate.jpg
Honing the Secondary Bevel
The aim is now to add a secondary microbevel of 35 degrees. This will create an included angle of 47 degrees, which is close to the 45 degrees of the typical bevel down cutting angle.
To do this I used a Veritas Honing Guide Mk II (with camber roller) and Shapton waterstones.
The honing guide requires a little modification. Draw a line at the blade stop to help determine the 35 degree setting. Users of this honing guide will understand this instruction.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/Sharpening/Camber%20for%20LAJ%20II/8VeritasHoningGuide35degrees.jpg
“… for the low angle blade profile to have the same projection as the common pitch plane it would have to have more than three times as much camber…”
Larry has a point. My own experiments have shown that BU planes require more camber than BD planes. It is for this reason that cambering BU planes has been considered a weakness in the design. Hopefully we can put an end to this view now. The fact is it is dead easy to camber a BU blade … it still will require a larger camber, but this is not a significant issue as long as you follow one simple rule. Let me show you how it is done.
The Way to Cambering Bevel Up Blades.
Here it is in a nut-shell … grind the primary bevel on all plane blades to 25 degrees. Don’t try to camber any blade that is greater than this, such as one with a 38- or 50 degree primary bevel (such as those available as optional purchases through Veritas). The latter blades are perceived to be a shortcut to honing, but this is an illusion.
BU planes blades are best prepared with a microbevel. There is no difference if this is added to a 25-, 35, or 45 degree primary bevel. However, the steeper the primary bevel, the more steel to remove when honing/grinding a camber. With a 25 degree primary bevel there is relatively little waste to remove. With a 50 degree bevel … well, you’ll drive yourself insane trying to do so..
What kind of camber do you want?
Cambers vary from a .001” thin shaving on a finish smoother to that of the “traditional fore/jack plane used for roughing would have about 1/16" of camber”, as Larry notes. Mmm … can a BU Jack produce a cambered shaving that thick? Easy-peasy!
To illustrate that there is very little extra effort in preparing the camber on a (bevel up) Veritas Low Angle Jack compared to, say, a (bevel down) Stanley #5 ˝, I prepared the following tutorial.
What I do
The first step is to start with a blade with a 25 degree primary bevel. I do my flat grinding on a belts sander on which I built a jig similar to a Tormek (this was published in a past FWW magazine). If I have to remove a lot of metal, I will use a 40 or 60 grit belt. This runs quite cool.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/Sharpening/Camber%20for%20LAJ%20II/1Beltsanderwithjig.jpg
Here is an example of a 25 degree straight grind on the belt sander …
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/Sharpening/Camber%20for%20LAJ%20II/1aGrindsquareat25degrees.jpg
The second step is to construct a template for grinding the camber.
Prepare a block of wood the same width as the blade and mark off 1/16” at each end, then draw an arc across this. Remove the waste, so ….
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/Sharpening/Camber%20for%20LAJ%20II/2Templateforcambering.jpg
Mmmm… I think I took off a bit more than 1/16”. Looks like 5/64”.
The completed template looks like this ..
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/Sharpening/Camber%20for%20LAJ%20II/3Templatetopside.jpg
and
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/Sharpening/Camber%20for%20LAJ%20II/4Templateunderside.jpg
Adjusted to grind a 25 degree bevel, it works like this …
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/Sharpening/Camber%20for%20LAJ%20II/6Grindtheblade.jpg
The result is a cambered 25 degree primary bevel ….
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/Sharpening/Camber%20for%20LAJ%20II/7Camberedprimarybevel.jpg
And, yes Bugbear, the camber does indeed match the template! Look …
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/Sharpening/Camber%20for%20LAJ%20II/7aMatchingthetemplate.jpg
Honing the Secondary Bevel
The aim is now to add a secondary microbevel of 35 degrees. This will create an included angle of 47 degrees, which is close to the 45 degrees of the typical bevel down cutting angle.
To do this I used a Veritas Honing Guide Mk II (with camber roller) and Shapton waterstones.
The honing guide requires a little modification. Draw a line at the blade stop to help determine the 35 degree setting. Users of this honing guide will understand this instruction.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/Sharpening/Camber%20for%20LAJ%20II/8VeritasHoningGuide35degrees.jpg