Michael Storer WoodenBoat Plans Forum - WELCOME

[Boatmik]

Howdy All!

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Well, I asked Neil whether it would be possible ... and Yes! This will be the world wide forum for discussions about my boat plans, how to build them, events and trouble shooting.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/144/379091135_dac1a798cd.jpg

Like I say on my website ...
http://www.storerboatplans.com
... my purpose has always been to get people excited about building, using, or just learning about wooden boats - whoever they are designed by, built by etc

Questions to do with a Storer Boat Plan put the Boat Design first in the name.

eg BETH Centreboard - fibreglassing problem

Where they relate to a particular building method give the name of the part first

eg Mast - making it round or
Rudder blades - timber choice

But don't worry about it too much - I can edit the name later!

One of the great things is I will be able to move some of the existing threads that deal specifically with my plans into this area. And it also allows different threads to cover different aspects of the same boats, or different building projects of the same design. Ipso Facto - better visual organisation for easier reference!

My plan is to keep this section pretty specific, so that the normal business of the other wooden boat sub-forums can continue unabated and unabashed!

Any existing storerboat threads can continue at the moment and I will gradually move the most relevant ones into this section.

ALSO .... consider joining this forum - it is free and being a member (http://www.woodworkforums.com/register.php) means that you can see easily what new posts have happened since your last visit so you can catch up quick.

Best wishes to all
Michael.

[Eli]

Congratulations. Looking forward to your new area.:2tsup:

[bitingmidge]

Well let me be the second to congratulate you then Mik! ( and great decision on your behalf too Neil!)

Does that mean the rowboat goes here? :D:D:D

You look like having the record for the world's longest running single thread in the Eureka one anyway. See how I happily slip it over to the master?

There's a pic of you back in the original post as I recall, just before you started giving me those looks!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2404/2056667742_7e4ecd6322_m.jpg

P
:D:D:D

[Boatmik]

Howdy Midge,

'bout time you got used to it ...

EVERYONE round here looks at you like that!

[Cliff Rogers]

Good on ya. :2tsup:

I picked up a 2nd hand book on sailing dinghies on the weekend. :rolleyes:

[robhosailor]

Hi Michael!

Congratulations!
Hoping to see many new your boat plans here soon :)

Can we ask for help about building new your boats here too?

:)

[Boatmik]

Hi Michael!

Congratulations!
Hoping to see many new your boat plans here soon :)

Can we ask for help about building new your boats here too?

:)

Yes Robert!

Any questions about Storer Boats or discussions that come out of what I write or the building methods I tend to use in my plans.

For example If you have a question about BETH (which I know you are interested in) ... just "start a new topic" and call it something useful - like "Beth - questions before I buy the plans".

And then the discussion can start!

Michael

[Boatmik]

Good on ya. :2tsup:

I picked up a 2nd hand book on sailing dinghies on the weekend. :rolleyes:

Which one Cliff?

MIK

[Cliff Rogers]

The Pocket Guide to Dinghy Sailing by Malcolm McKeag.

My only complain so far is that it only has a 2 page glossary & it is CHOKERS full of boat & sailing jargon.

Part 2 on Dinghy Racing is just about totally incomprehensible because of all the jargon, particularly the bits about The Start & The Rules. :oo:



Before starting you may luff as you please (40) except that you may not go above close hauled if the windward yacht is forward of mast abeam. If your luff affects more than one other (often the case before starting) you may not go above close hauled unless all are aft of mast abeam (40 and 38.6).
If any of the yachts to windward hail 'mast abeam', you must respect the hail even if you disagree and protest if you think fit (38.4) Since there is no proper course before starting, you only have to bear away on to a close hauled course (40) to fulfill your obligations.


Yeap, got that....:? what was the question again?

[Wild Dingo]

Are we feelin special yet Mik? :U :U spoilt maybe? :q

Well done mate and good on yer Neil :2tsup:

[Boatmik]

The Pocket Guide to Dinghy Sailing by Malcolm McKeag.

My only complain so far is that it only has a 2 page glossary & it is CHOKERS full of boat & sailing jargon.

Part 2 on Dinghy Racing is just about totally incomprehensible because of all the jargon, particularly the bits about The Start & The Rules. :oo:

Yeap, got that....:? what was the question again?

Don't worry Cliff, the rules get updated every 4 years - so the book is so out of date you will still be in the wrong on the start line.

What year was it published?

Just checked ... it was 1985 so it is almost 6 sets of updates out! They did decide to move to a simplified rule set with fewer exceptions to standard situations about 12 years ago.

MIK

[Boatmik]

Are we feelin special yet Mik? :U :U spoilt maybe? :q

Well done mate and good on yer Neil :2tsup:

Cheers Ding!

More than a little spoilt! It was terribly good of Neil!

Actually even more spoilt because a lot of my contribution has been spurred by the contribution of others. The obvious one is the Biting Midge and Daddles and yourself and woodbutcher and aloneonbeach and walesy and Cliff and catsailor and all the people involved in the PDRacer mayhem and and, but I'd be up all night listing all the people who have built up the wooden boat section. In fact as you know in particular I am quite a recent arrival compared to some!

Now I have to work out how to use my magic powers to move things around without stuffing anything up!

(if I dare) I'll do some reading first then move the Eureka, GIS and PDR threads under this one. Assuming I can do it without messing up existing links!

Sigh

MIK

[Wild Dingo]

:U And here I am thinkin of tryin to thunk up some really good questions to put to the new ubeaut hexpert!! :U

Actually speakin of questions Ive actually got one!!! :2tsup: nah bedder start a new thread eh? :doh: :U

[Repete]

Goodonya Mik, I am coming to the end of an Eureka build & would like to compliment Michael on the quality of the plans, his tireless help & the beauty of the craft. A lick of paint over the hols & I'll hit the high seas!! Peter :2tsup:

[Boatmik]

Howdy All,

I have just spent the last couple of hours moving any STRONGLY storerboat threads into this sub-forum.

If there are any others that you think should be here - or any that you think should not be because they are too general please give me a yell and I will have a look at it.

One person whose posts I miss are Dopeydriver (Rob, where are you) whenever he asked a question you never knew where it would lead, but it usually led somewhere quite generally useful.

Best wishes to all
Michael

[robhosailor]

MIK,
On BOAT DESIGNS/PLANS range of forum is my topic about general questions of your Beth kamikaze canoe yawl - still.

:U

I like your forum:U:U:U and your boats as well :B

[robhosailor]

On BOAT DESIGNS/PLANS range of forum is my topic about general questions of your Beth kamikaze canoe yawl - still.I just can see it in your part of forum!:2tsup:

[PAR]

Hi Michael, I thought I'd join your forum . . .

[Boatmik]

Howdy PAR,

I saw your post on another thread and welcomed you there.

Very welcome here too.

MIK

[Boatmik]

I will be away for a couple of days, so if there is a certain slowness in answering questions this weekend ... don't be frustrated ... think of my sailing one of the PDRacers over at the Stansbury and Port Vincent Classic Boat Festival.

I'll be catching up on Monday

You guys are getting pretty good at supplying needed information anyhow!!!!

Michael

[Daddles]

... think of my sailing one of the PDRacers over at the Stansbury and Port Vincent Classic Boat Festival.

He'll be spending most of his time trying to get extra speed out of a PDR now that's he's discovered that they are slower than Redback :rolleyes:

Richard

[Boatmik]

Richard ... don't forget that you used my digital camera to take a little bit of footage of the pink PDR sailing three times as fast as Redback (http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showthread.php?t=71862).

The footage is very clear and I will have it up on the web next week.

Very kind of you to record it too!

Cheers
MIK

[Boatmik]

I think most here will have seen all of these ... but just as a bit of a historic record ...

The Storerboat launchings have been great this year. A lot of it is because of hard work from my agents
Chuck and Sandra in the USA
Ted and David in OZ
Philip in the UK

but boats being launched everywhere
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showthread.php?t=79119
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showthread.php?t=79096
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showthread.php?t=79002
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showthread.php?t=78868
http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84601&highlight=beth
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showthread.php?t=78533
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showthread.php?t=77572
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showpost.php?p=783495&postcount=7
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showpost.php?p=783539&postcount=8

Gyula in Romania
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showpost.php?p=781049&postcount=291
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showpost.php?p=789039&postcount=307
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showpost.php?p=806006&postcount=312

Eureka Hungary
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showpost.php?p=783446&postcount=435

PDRacers - as construction photos are required for registration ...
Sorry ... they have all been blocked by their server ... but they are just all OZ ducks or OZ version ducks.
you can paste the references into your browser and they load that way but they won't accept a link from clicking on this page.

Just get rid of the equals sign before pasting into your browser.

=http://www.pdracer.com/fleets/253.jpg
=http://www.pdracer.com/fleets/255.jpg
=http://www.pdracer.com/fleets/244.jpg
=http://www.pdracer.com/fleets/236.jpg
=http://www.pdracer.com/fleets/224.jpg
=http://www.pdracer.com/fleets/258.jpg
=http://www.pdracer.com/fleets/209.jpg
=http://www.pdracer.com/fleets/243.jpg
=http://www.pdracer.com/fleets/260.jpg
=http://www.pdracer.com/fleets/218.jpg

[Boatmik]

Storer is on his annual transition between cities.

Once he plugs in the laptop at the other end the shift is completed and things continue like normal ... but he will be a bit scarce on the ground.

And it makes this week a little chaotic in terms of keeping up with posting etc.

Best wishes to all
MIK

[Boatmik]

Well ... I have arrived in Forster/Tuncurry but still have very limited internet access. I will try to get to an internet cafe in the next day or so.

Thankyou everyone for keeping things going!!!

If people have specific and urgent problems over the Xmas period give me a yell by email. But posting here will also be helpful as lots of people have had lots of experience.

BEST WISHES!!!!

Michael

[CCBB]

Being somewhat new to the group here, I'd love to know about this migration, Michael. I'll look the place up on Google!

OK- just looked on Google maps, wow it looks like a wonderful place...National Parks, and lots of water. Is it just me or does Wallis Lake look like a great stomping ground for a Goat?

Clint

[b.o.a.t.]

Forster/Tuncurry - NSW biggest retirement village.... :wink:
Lake Wallis is a great stomping ground for almost any boat.
Shallow draft better - opens up a -lot- more lake & back-waters.
Lots of sandy shallows. And some rocky ones...
Same applies to the Myall Lakes to the south.
AJ

[Boatmik]

And lots of Oyster leases.

We have been coming here for Christmas since my Aunt and Uncle moved here after buying a Motel.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_3RD0luq23ZI/SVBQgJkUi8I/AAAAAAAAGhE/t_kRM5dB_vA/s640/PC230050.JPG

Originally it made its money from oysters, prawns and general ocean seafood - a sleepy little town with about the best fish and chip shops you could imagine. Fishing co-ops and a small bunch of local shops. It was a tourist town basically with cement board (fibro to us) Motels with wooden floorboards and three windows.

In the main hotel street there used to be a bunch of holiday flats called Eros 1, Eros 2 and Eros 3 near the cinema where I once saw a McHales Navy double thinking I was about to see Spielburg's first film "Duel".

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_3RD0luq23ZI/SU_p2hgbHKI/AAAAAAAAGXU/FVYFCcsSZKE/PC220100.JPG

We alway made sure that our family hired one of the old clinker Putt Putt dinghies for a day when we we were young and headed up the lake for an explore and picnic. So I have first hand experience of why the people who truly love them called the enginge "Stupid Turners". I spend a lot of time hanging over the side pushing the water around with my hands and other body parts. I wasn't a sailor then. but maybe part of the fascination was from here. They also hired out very heavy fibreglass canoes.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_3RD0luq23ZI/SU_qG_ve05I/AAAAAAAAGXk/ER_FRZjMnJI/PC220104.JPGOne of the boat hire places had boats called Grumpy, Sleepy, Doc etc .. all about 16ft and an 18footer called Snow White.

It certainly was a holiday town - very sleepy the rest of the time. Lakes on one side - better for fishing and small boats because the area is not really huge - a PDRacer would be more fun than a Goat ... you could see everything in one day on the Goat (ok .. maybe two - the Myall lakes would be lots of fun. Lots of shallow and quite strong tidal currents. And don't get lost among the oyster leases!

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_3RD0luq23ZI/SVBTQFwpbCI/AAAAAAAAGk4/ccleszN0q_o/s640/PC230087.JPG

It went into a state of hypertourism with the local developer types wanting to create a Miami by the sea. The change in housing style was indicative.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_3RD0luq23ZI/SVBYiAI16jI/AAAAAAAAGsA/EVrsQlFLeeU/s128/PC230166.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_3RD0luq23ZI/SVBYdUhL1ZI/AAAAAAAAGr4/TJT9_8hT2VI/s128/PC230165.JPG

Now like AJ says ... the economy subsists on a mix of superannuation and pension cheques. Lots of urban development around the lakes, a K-mart and big supermarkets to the North of the town and an average population age of ... maybe about mine. The boat hire businesses are a little bit marginal now so it is even hard to hire a tinnie. The canoes are now in plastic and still crap to paddle!

Still a nice place to visit. Interesting thing is all the people who live here are sun shy and spooked by skin cancer ... or live here anyhow ... or too old ... so the old OZ beach culture has disappeared. Very few of the locals now hang around on the beach putting hats and sunscreen on their kids and handing out sandwiches and walking to the shops for an icecream like we did.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_3RD0luq23ZI/SVBWk-jZfUI/AAAAAAAAGpU/JRJpYaLYRcc/s640/PC230136.JPG

However hang around on the beach a little and the people there are doing much the same thing as our extended family did ... you hear Chinese, Arabic, South American accented Portuguese and Spanish, Thai, Hindi. They walk their toddlers in the shallows and I am sure tell their kids "you can't go swimming until an hour after you have eaten or you will get cramps and die" just like my mum told everyone (and still does).

I find this amazing ... how do people who have moved from all over the world know how families should use beaches - is there a course they have to do??? It is really a case of the country shaping the people.

Amazing and wonderful.

Best wishes
MIK

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_3RD0luq23ZI/SU_pOUUw3-I/AAAAAAAAGWk/YURdGO45wKI/s640/PC220026.JPG

Hey .. saw this one afloat opposite my Aunt's apartment. I'll let you all guess and see who works it out! I saw it being built about ... 15 years ago .. strip plank. the paint scheme for the leeboard is quite clever I think.

More pics here (too many)
http://picasaweb.google.com/boatmik/ForsterTuncurry#
http://picasaweb.google.com/boatmik/TuncurryShoreWalkToTheSouth#

[Boatmik]

Christmas Eve ... Merry Christmas to everyone!

MIK

[CCBB]

Not Christmas Eve here yet...what are you on the other side of the world or what!?

Cheers! Merry Christmas to all in Oz!

Clint

[b.o.a.t.]

A Merry Christmas indeed !

(MIK, sitting at my desk here in Adelaide at 03:15 Xmas Day, I cannot begin to describe how envious I am of you being in F/T... Wanna swap ?)

AJ

[Boatmik]

Hey AJ,

If you see santa ... you don't get any presents! You should go to bed pretty quickly!

MIK

[b.o.a.t.]

Don't think I'll be getting presents next year either. Managed to fit most of the reindeer in the freezer though... :U
cheers
AJ

[robhosailor]

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL from Poland :U:U:U

[Boatmik]

Howdy,

Sorry everyone .. am having huge problems getting net access.

Very limited time and very limited speed - one page is taking about 4 minutes to load. Hope I can sort something better out soon.

I'll try to get back here as often as possible.

Michael

[AlexN]

Hi MIK!

Spooky! I was holidaying at Smith's Lake (and deciding to start sailing again after gazing at a Mirror, a repeatedly capsizing Laser <grin> and some Hobie Cats while sitting in "Frothy Coffee", the local boat hire/boathouse/coffee shop) around the time that you were over at Forster. It's a lovely neck of the woods up there.

Also had a nice time fishing (mostly undersized, Smith's is apparently fished out), some paddling in a horrible plastic kayak and being towed behind a motor boat on a rubber "blob" at circa 30 mph (I *didn't* come off :).

I also had a terrible time with Internet access, and blamed it on Vodafone: connection was mostly non-existant, and when latched, painfully slow, like watching paint dry, only *a lot* slower. Nice to know that I wasn't the only one! The phone side was out most of the time too, which was a problem for my employers as they were urgently trying to contact me (not so much for me - until I eventually found the delayed txt). I blame Telstra ;).

I found the GIS and the Oz woodworking forum, during one of the rare moments that the phone picked up the GPRS signal, whilst I was attempting to search (unsuccessfully, fortunately :) for Mirror & NS14 plans. I joined the forum right away, but decided to leave posting questions about the GIS until I got back to Sydney with broadband access and a real keyboard - the iPhone has its points, but typing one fingered has its limits. The GPS worked and was spot on, though.

In fact, the bad internet access may have led me to finding the GIS sooner rather than later, although you never really know.

Alex.

[Boatmik]

So all these modern communications methods (or the lack of them) have lead you here!

Every cloud has a silver lining.

I did get that the right way round didn't I?

MIK

[AlexN]

I did get that the right way round didn't I?


Hi Michael,

Indeed :).

Cheers,
Alex.

[Boatmik]

Howdy,

Some of you are aware that my brother gave me a whole lot of frequent flyer points that have to be gotten rid of by the end of the month.

Well ... worked out what to do with them AND fix my internet access problem at the same time.

I am going to Taiwan for five weeks or maybe a bit longer. Will do some studying of Chinese which is fun ... take lots of pics of boats (and maybe put together some interviews if I can run into the right people)

But I will have a personal broadband connection for my whole stay .. which means better comms and more updating of the website and this forum. And paradoxically more time to work on my design stuff.

Be back in contact about the 28/29th. And may be able to check my email in transit.

MIK

[Cliff Rogers]

Have fun. :2tsup:

[Boatmik]

Hit Taiwan,

Net is working well. Will catch up with the backlog on the forum tonight ... You guys HAVE been busy!!!

Taiwan is apples ... a great river nearby too!! Makes me think of urban canoing!

MIK

[b.o.a.t.]

You must be missing the weather here MIK.
44 yesterday, 45 today, Cool change tomorrow & Friday - 41.
Then the Big Freeze sats in for the weekend - 37 & 39...

bother.. just looked at the BoM..
No cool change tomorrow after all...
Thursday Dry. Mostly sunny. Min 32 Max 44
Friday Dry. Mostly sunny. Min 30 Max 41
Saturday Dry. Mostly sunny. Min 25 Max 40
Sunday Dry. Mostly sunny. Min 23 Max 40
Monday Dry. Mostly sunny. Min 22 Max 39
Tuesday Dry. Mostly sunny. Min 22 Max 38
Wednesday Dry. Mostly sunny. Min 22 Max 38

Ice age doesn't start until Monday... :~
AJ

('mostly sunny' means 'an occasional small cloud' - think I saw 2 all day today, neither
of them near here..)

[waky53]

Think its going to be a waste of time building boats if this heat keeps on, all the water in the rivers & lakes will evaporate!!!

[AlexN]

Ice age doesn't start until Monday... :~
AJ

Hmmm...short ice age, back to 40 on Thurs...I remember some bad heat waves when I was a kid, but that's ridiculous! At that rate, the Gulfs will dry up!

Cheers,
Alex.

[CCBB]

I hope every one is OK with the wildfires going on...thinking of everyone from way up here in Maine.

Best,
Clint

[b.o.a.t.]

The Vics are doing it tough, some worse than others. :C
The rest of us are ok.
So far.

Thanks for caring. :2tsup:
AJ

[Boatmik]

There is a little bit more about fires on the forum in two other threads

Response to a drive to collect money from forum members (it has been tried before .. it is better to use the regular channels .. some are using this thread to inform about fundraisers etc. Also Coles supermarkets take over the counter donations and more)
http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=88974&highlight=bushfires

And a more discussion-ey type of thread
http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=88996&highlight=bushfires

Best wishes to all
MIK

[Boatmik]

I will be out of comms for two days ... back on the 15th.

[Boatmik]

Well ... the time has come to leave Taiwan.

Sad to leave, five weeks seemed a bit rushed in many ways.

I am going to be out of comms from now until Wednesday 4th March when I get up to Duck Flat.

And over the weekend and monday following I will be at the Goolwa Wooden Boat show - I think that is the 7/8/9

MIK

[Boatmik]

BAck in OZ,

Even better back in Adelaide!

Goolwa Wooden Boat Festival was over the weekend I have some images on flickr.com (http://www.flickr.com) care of Robin Hilliard ... just some tastes while I get everything organised over the next day or so.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3362/3337076133_7e902f4e38.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3366/3337105765_49db0e7496.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3382/3337921544_411ae51268.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3385/3337987042_059f3eb820.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3572/3337236087_0cb831b68b.jpg

... had the pink PDR sailing around against the lug rigged sexy black PDR.

Report in the lug vs sprit rig comparison thread (http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?p=912291#post912291)

Best wishes .. and so glad to be back.

Now looking for a place to rent for 2 to three months.

MIK

[nemo43]

Michael

I spent the long weekend relaxing in Tas after a nervous and busy four weeks in the fire area. All the ply i had to build a rough punt for the youngest (32 y/onow, oh my gawd) was used to close in and ember proof the carport while i got to ride around a lot on a BRT ( Big Red Truck).

Thank goodness no near things at home or on the truck ( blacking out is hard, heavy, boring, dangerous [falling trees] and dirty but it worked), but number one son had the flames 300 metres away from his back door which is quite close enough anyway.

Bad news travels fast, eh? I hear you got puddled by a little black duck with a lug sail (grin)

Back to Tas. In my travels, i saw trailered up alongside the Living Boat Trust shed in Franklin the most beautiful and dangerously quick looking boat i have ever seen. Some intensive research indicates it was once a Bolger folding schooner in Goolwa but is now unfoldable. It looks about 40' long bowsprit to rudder. A cute system of levers is installed so that the tiller travel is reduced.

Am I right in thinking this is a suicide machine, that I am at least 30 years too old to be even thinking about buying it, and that the raider you are drawing is not dissimilar in raison d'etre. The boat in Tas is fully restored and bristol fashion and for sale. Any ideas of what it would bring?

What do you have in plan for a smaller, one-up schooner version ( lug sailed (grin) that i could dream about building and sailing and embarrassing lasers with?

regards
Nemo

[Boatmik]

Howdy Nemo,

For a good long rundown on the vices and virtues of the schooner have a look at
Tim Fatchen's Light Schooner page (http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/index.htm).

It is a shorter brother.

MIK

[CCBB]

MIK Have you seen this discussion yet

http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96294

[AlexN]

As someone who grew up in Adelaide and spent a lot of time down the Port, this is very upsetting. I knew that the State government was trashing the working port and turning it into yet another glass-and-granite yuppy warren, but didn't know that it had gone quite that far. Big business doesn't give a hoot about ordinary folks. My thoughts go out to Mr Hackett and his former employees. And it seems to be very hard to get the mainstream media to sit up and take an interest. I can understand more now, possibly, why MIK appears to be shipping anchor to certain extent.

It's all cetainly revealing our values as a society.

The same thing is happening over here in Sydney, although the concept of (at least land-based) marine heritage seems to be slighly more alive. Elsewhere in this joint, however, if it isn't a develoment site, it's rapidly turned into one, and the Devil take the hindmost. Very frustrating.

How to fight against Big Money?

[b.o.a.t.]

This deserves a thread all of its own.

MIK ?

Silly thing is that closing these slipways eliminates the very infrastructure the marina
occupants require to maintain their expensive toys.:doh: There are now virtually no
facilities around metro Adelaide where the non yacht club marina occupants can slip
their boats for a bottom clean. Likewise the commercial boats. I understand there
are just one or two marina style hoists left. Anything larger than those limited capacity
hoists must pay a premium to use RAYS slip or go around to the Spencer Gulf ports.

[AlexN]

This deserves a thread all of its own.

I second that :).

Alex.

[Boatmik]

Come on Guys .. you can open the thread yourselves!

However, I have beaten you to it.
http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?p=948593#post948593

[Boatmik]

I have moved Shedhand's build of the Handy Punt to here.

He is in Tassie and is finding sources for the materials.

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=100881

He won the plan as part of the regular raffle for all sorts of good things that members of the woodwork forums can win.

MIK

[Boatmik]

Howdy,

I am having some internet connection issues at the moment so my response might be a little slow.

I am just changing wireless broadband ISPs having just about gone into strangling mode with DODO which runs on the Optus mobile network. Their performance was so poor that one of the major computer magazines refused to review them earlier in the year in a round up of that segment of the market.

Now tossing up between Telstra and Three.

HOpe to resolve in a few days.

MIK

MIK

[AlexN]

Howdy,

I am having some internet connection issues at the moment so my response might be a little slow.

I am just changing wireless broadband ISPs having just about gone into strangling mode with DODO which runs on the Optus mobile network. Their performance was so poor that one of the major computer magazines refused to review them earlier in the year in a round up of that segment of the market.

Now tossing up between Telstra and Three.

HOpe to resolve in a few days.

MIK

MIK

We've been having a bad run with Optus' broadband for the last few months - they have at least been giving us the odd free month, but it really doesn't make up for the loss of speed and connections. We'd go to Exetel and ADSL2+ if we could (run by techies for techies) but for some weird reason they don't do the Hornsby area...

I've heard bad things about iinet, but no personal experience, and wouldn't touch Telstraaaa with a 40 ' barge pole - but I'd better stop there before I get permanently booted ;). When I compare my first memories of the internet about 20 years ago at Adel. Uni., and that of today - well, I have to be polite: 20 years ago it screamed along (although that was using goold ol' text/terminal interfaces before the days of the web, javascript, bots, spam, YouTube &c.). There was a chance to get it right in Oz and it looks as though it might have been squandered...

Cheers,
Alex.

[Boatmik]

Well, I am using a friend's wireless connection ... just out the window. For some reason I can get the web, but not email.

MIK

[Boatmik]

Howdy

Broken internet connection at the moment ... will resolve later today.

MIK

[Boatmik]

Howdy,

Despite some nice sailing etc at Mooloolaba my internet connection is completely shot. I am trying to work out a way of fixing it. I'll probably end up hitting the local internet cafes.

Best wishes
Michael

[Boatmik]

Not resolved, but I am just using up some of my quota for roaming at the local Starbucks.

Not slumming to badly - nice view of Mooloolabah beach.

MIK

[Boatmik]

I am back in Adelaide for those who had not noticed.

I am changing my work schedule as I have realised I am far too easily seduced by this forum - a good thing as it means it is good fun for me too.

But from now I am going to update the forum and answer emails at the end of the day rather than the beginning.

This way it makes sure I do design work every day in the mornings and leave the more fun bit for the evenings. The design is fun but the payoff tends to be later when I release the plans and can start discussing and promoting them.

So design is fun
Talking and posting on the net and email is more fun.

Catch you later in the day.
Best wishes
Michael

[Boatmik]

Howdy,

Sorry about my lack of appearance recently. Things have been pretty tough over the last few months both inside and outside the boat design thing.

I hope it is all simplifying now. The most recent was a virus infection on my website, but I think I have fixed that now - it was only on the Michael Storer Wooden Boat Plans|Wooden and Plywood Boat Plans for Amateur Boatbuilders – Excellent Performance, Simple Construction, DETAILED Step by Step Instructions Australia, USA, UK, Hungary, S. Africa (http://www.storerboatplans.com/wp) section and I had to disinfect it and work out how to make it harder in future.

Anyway ... hope I am back a bit more often now.

Best wishes
Michael

[Boatmik]

Merry Christmas to all the visitors that make this forum such a great place. Hope you get some boating in the next few days or that you have some nice time planning great things to do when summer comes to the north.
Best wishes,
MIK

[nemo43]

BoatMik

On January 2nd I pull the tarps from the NeD and see if after three years it is still there.

Aim is to have it with a wet bum at Goolwa wooden boat fest late Feb, emblazoned with your given name for it (never ending dory) if that's OK with you.

Seems sort of appropriate to launch near to where the keel was laid all those years ago.

will you be there to watch?

If you are still peripatetic I can put you up at Goolwa on the weekend.

Nemo

[Boatmik]

Hi Nemo,

I will be at the Goolwa show on the Duckflat stand and also milling around!

Best wishes
Michael

[Boatmik]

Have been in Canberra for a few days with very poor internet connection.

On my way back to Sydney so along the highway I can communicate again.

Only the most marginal of boating activities - went for a sail with a friend on Lake Burley Griffin in very light winds. Did see one of the 18ft Norwalk Island Sharpies with the ketch rig I drew up being motored - but they were going into a lull area in a very patchy day - so couldn't follow because we would have been becalmed.

The boat was a plastic Topper. It dealt Ok with two smallish adults on board if we kept weight central.

The rest of the time it was galleries and museums - I used to live there when I started to be a boat designer full time (the first time) so was very nice to catch up with culture.

MIK

[woodeneye]

The rest of the time it was galleries and museums - I used to live there when I started to be a boat designer full time (the first time) so was very nice to catch up with culture.

MIK

Does that mean future designs may incorporate some artistic flair? :wink:

[Boatmik]

One can only hope!

[Boatmik]

Howdy All,

New article up on my website

Rules of thumb for boat and yacht design – are they legitimate?#|#Michael Storer Wooden Boat Plans (http://www.storerboatplans.com/wp/design/rules-of-thumb-for-boat-and-yacht-design-are-they-legitimate/)

I think most of the regulars would know about it because they also subscribe to my website (button at top of the right column of my website page - you should get one email a week if something new has been published.)

MIK

[woodeneye]

I love Rules of Thumb, so will check it out.

Does the GIS ride on a bubble of air?

It occurred to me last Saturday that, on occasions, the Goat rides on bubbles of trapped air. We had pretty flat water on the lake and as we moved along the gurgling noise under the hull was pretty loud. It’s quite amusing as it could be heard by other nearby boats. When the conditions are just right, such as in a light breeze and small ripples on the surface, the air is trapped between the runners and creates a musical gurgling sound as these bubbles make their way aft and exit at the transom.

Yet another performance trick that reduces wetted surface area!

[Boatmik]

Haha, probably not.

More likely to add to the sum total of human amusement.

Which is not a bad thing.

[Boatmik]

My computer has died so will be a few daysdays of only short replies. WritinWriting with thumbs on phone.

[Boatmik]

Back online with a keyboard again!

MIK

[Boatmik]

New article on my website.

Books and articles that changed my thinking in a radical way. My boat design thinking that is!

Most regulars would know about this list, as most have appeared on this forum from time to time. But this page is for easier access.

The Canon – books and resources for boat design. | Michael Storer Wooden Boat Plans (http://www.storerboatplans.com/wp/design/the-canon-books-and-resources-for-boat-design/)

Best wishes
Michael

[Boatmik]

Lake Macquarie Classic Boat Festival on over Easter.

http://www.classicboatfest.com.au/templatemo_052_gallery/gallery/gallery1.jpg

I am going up on the Saturday with AlexN who is building the OzRacer. We will be meeting up with Bruce (Woodeneye) who with any luck will have his "for sale" Goat Island Skiff there.

Won't be around on the Sunday.

You can look for the varnished Goat Island Skiff or speak to the Chaps on the NSW Boatcraft Pacific stand - they are otherwise called "Drive Marine".

Website for the show is here.
Lake Macquarie Classic Boatfest 2010 (http://www.classicboatfest.com.au/)

[Boatmik]

STill in the USA but back on board.

Just needed a bit of a break. It's been almost five years since the rebirth of storerboats. I can't imagine the number of email and posts I've answered and the number of net articles.

I think I was a bit burned out.

Am currently staying at Duckworks in Texas. And will be doing a talk for the Central Texas boat crafters and messabout society in a couple of weeks.

Then will have time to head up and get some canoe coaching from Paul Helbert.

See you all more regularly on this forum.

MIK

[Joost]

Hello MIK,

Great to see you back on the forum re-energized!

I think that regular breaks are very good to keep the spirits up and to approach matters with a fresh mindset again.

Enjoy the remainder of your stay in the US.

Best wishes,

Joost

[Boatmik]

Thanks Joost,
I will try to live up to that!
MIK

[b.o.a.t.]

Welcome back MIK.
Even a bloke whose passion is his work needs a break.
Or a hobby. ;-)
AJ

[m2c1Iw]

Yeah what they said. :2tsup:

[Boatmik]

A hobby, that is an idea!

[Pomor.]

Оцените. :)http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4912/43267920.1/0_164eaf_5b1ae5b3_XXL

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5800/pongoma.0/0_14e675_83991ab1_XXL

[Cliff Rogers]

Welcome pomor.

Nice boat. :2tsup:

[Pomor.]

Welcome pomor.

Nice boat. :2tsup:Thank for a rating. Спасибо.:roll:
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[m2c1Iw]

Anyone heard from Mik?

[Cliff Rogers]

Yup, he posted this on FaceBook on Friday.
Heading away from Paris to the Loire River. May be a little while before I am on the net again. Not sure.

[m2c1Iw]

Yup, he posted this on FaceBook on Friday.
Heading away from Paris to the Loire River. May be a little while before I am on the net again. Not sure.

Ah jet-setter Mik :D, thanks.

[Cliff Rogers]

Tonight's update from Mik on FB...

In regional France. We now have what looks like two newly built canoes. It is really just the hull shells. But all has gone smoothly. Pics soon

[Boatmik]

Merry Xmas to all Storerforum members.

It has been a low profile year for me, but it has been great to see how everyone helps each other out here!

Michael.

[b.o.a.t.]

Welcome back from the world MIK !!
cheers
AJ

[davlafont]

Merry Xmas to all Storerforum members.

It has been a low profile year for me, but it has been great to see how everyone helps each other out here!

Michael.
Have a joyous holiday!

[AlexN]

Welcome back from the world MIK !!
cheers
AJ

Hear hear :D

[robinhilliard]

Hope you had fun on your travels MIK - Now that you're back how about a stretched Goooose to show those Sydney to Hobart people a thing or two? ;-)

[Boatmik]

MERRY XMAS 2013 to all storerboats contributors and readers!

Lots of nice things in the last year and more to come.

Plenty of stuff happening in the discussion threads!

Michael Storer

[woodeneye]

Merry Christmas Mik, and also to all the great contributors over the past year. I have mainly been lurking this year due to other projects and have really enjoyed the sail making thread, which further showcases the incredible skills of Storer boat builders.

For me, the year has ended on a high note as I've taken over distributions in Australia for a well known sail maker.

[Boatmik]

Hi Bruce,

That's great news - and it is super to have work in the area you REALLY like!

Best wishes for the new year!

MIK