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robyn2839
14th January 2008, 05:39 PM
this could be a good thread to show off your lathe,tell us a little about it,ie goods and bads, where you purchased it,modifications you have made to it, then this could be used as a valuable reference for lathe buyers and possibly answer some of those questions some of us dont normally ask before purchasing. say two or three photos, So what do you think ? ...

bob

Calm
14th January 2008, 08:40 PM
I bought this as my first lathe and a try and see if i like woodturning lathe. I didnt want a GMC and my SIL works for Thomas Warburton who deal with H&F. The WL20HD was on special with the cast iron stand. It cost me $600 even.

Problems so far
- the on off switch which is magnetic sometimes drops out and the lathe stops PITA
- the fancy screws on the toolrest striped and I replaced with allen key set screws that happens to be the same size as SN2 chuck key. Handy
- slowest speed is 500 and with a large bowl blank it is not slow enough scary
- cam lock on headstock doesnt hold well with out of balance blank. It would be better to leave cam right off fit spring & flat washer and clamp headstock to bed in permanent position with socket from underneath so it wont come loose. - tailstock to bed is fairly loose fit and drilling by pushing tailstock is not really satisfactory. Drilling using thread on tailstock would soon wear it out.
- Belt speed puleys seized up when in storage for 18 months but since freeing up have given no problems.
So far it has done everything i wanted it to do. I rarely stall the motor, I drilled out the holes in legs and bolted to floor with 10mm x 100mm dynabolts. Now it doesnt move. With cast legs i can just lift it so estimate weight at about 80 - 100 kg. Speed change by moving the lever is better than changing belts. the headstock turns outboard so big bowls are not a problem.

I am happy with what it is, i think a beginner could do worse, for a first lathe and $600 it is ok.

Would i buy a different lathe next time - probably not the problems can be overcome except the speed. May be worth looking at fitting one of CWS variable speed motors to fix problem (it they fit)

My next lathe will definetly have fully adjustable dial up speed but that is a lot more than double the price of mine.

nfld steve
14th January 2008, 09:24 PM
Hi guys,that lathe looks very much like the one I bought this past summer.I don't yet know how to post pics,but I do have a dig camera.
I bought a 14" Delta,and the onlt difference I can see is I don't have cast iron legs:no:,but the featuires all seem the same.
I had trouble with the cam locking thingy on the tailstock too,and I tightened the nut,and that made it too tight,and then loosened it again,and it was better.Sam with the toolrest banjo.The nuts under them on mine only need a little teensy turn to make them tighter.
I think your idea about bolting it to the floor is a great one for me.I have moved it from my barn,,too cold there now,into my workshop in my basement,and I think I'll pick up some bolts for that,rather than covering up my shelf I made underneath with bags of sand.I'll see how that works,thanks for the pictures,and that idea.
I'll get around to learning to post pictures soon.
Talk to you later guys,Steve

thefixer
15th January 2008, 09:21 PM
The ever reliable MC1100. Purchased from Carbatec in Clayton Vic. Great bunch of blokes, very helpful and treat beginners with the same respect as experienced folk.
Weak points.
1. Stand not strong enough. Minor detail really. I built a strong stand that suits my purposes better.
2. Nuts keep coming loose on tool rest and tailstock cams. Solution: I drilled holes in the end of the threaded rod and fitted washer and split pin.
3.Fair amount of play in the tailstock to lathe bed. Makes accurate drilling and turning pens difficult. Solution: Once you get to know your MC1100 better you will find out where center is at any point on the bed.
4. 500 rpm not quite slow enough for large off centre stuff and motor not powerful enough for larger stock.
5. Tool rest supplied with lathe is not long enough. Makes using a skew chisel impossible on larger material. Solution: duh. make a bigger one.
Good Points
1. Probably the best value lathe for the beginner. Lathe and NovaG3 chuck was around $600.
2. The fact that you can stall the motor is a great safety feature for a beginner, especially when you inevitably get that big grab. Far better to have the lathe stall than to be dodging lumps of timber and chisels flying around the shed.
3. The MC100 more than siuts my current needs and will still be of service when I eventually save the money for a more expensive lathe.
4. My 15 year old son shares the same passion and it great for us to be able sit and talk s**t together and compare notes on who has spotted the biggest burl hanging off the side of one local trees in our area.:D

Cheers
Shorty

Neal Addy
16th January 2008, 02:24 AM
I'm game. I bought my 1442 about 18 months after buying my first mini. Still happy with it but I'm wishing I had gone with a 1642 for the extra bells and whistles. Slower speeds and EVS would have been nice.

The captive rig and laser are custom-built. The backrest came from Monster.

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Harry72
16th January 2008, 08:19 PM
Nova DVRXP... got it for free!(sold some shares issued at work, thanks goes to Zinifex)
I optioned her up with a bed extension and outrigger, made the stand from some recycled steel... also for free:)
Also grabbed a SN2 chuck(50mm jaws) + 25mm pin jaws/75mm spigot jaws/100mm jaws and a mini nova cole set(on the lathe in the pic).

Its my 1st lathe, I dont think I will need to upgrade... but you never know:D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/ST170ish/IMG_0088.jpg

son_of_bluegras
18th January 2008, 03:15 PM
Y'all got fancy lathes. No laughing now, remember you asked to see it.
I inheirited it when dad died, he bought it used from somebody. Don't know how old it is but if you look close you can see oil ports.

The best thing about it - it lets me do some turning.

ron

ticklingmedusa
18th January 2008, 06:43 PM
No laughs from me Ron...
looks to me like it has everything you need to spin wood.
You should post a photo of your work sometime.
Welcome,
tm

Harry72
18th January 2008, 09:06 PM
Hey Ron, long as she works mate!
Probably just as good as mine if used for spindle work... even looks like a ancestor of the DVR being direct drive and all!

fred.n
18th January 2008, 10:09 PM
Y'all got fancy lathes. No laughing now, remember you asked to see it.
I inheirited it when dad died, he bought it used from somebody. Don't know how old it is but if you look close you can see oil ports.

The best thing about it - it lets me do some turning.

ron

That's tough !!!!! :2tsup:

Thunknker
19th January 2008, 02:16 AM
Old MC900 bought second hand. Using it on the original shake 'n wobble stand screwed to the top of two pallets to make it tall enough, it chased me around the shed while doing a bowl outboard, after which I built the stand it is on now out of 200x75x10mm channel boxed with 5mm plate. Under the headstock I have two of these back to back. Now it hardly moves, and is a pleasure to use.
The original toolrest annoyed me so I built a 200mm one and hardly use the other now.
Chisel rack is an old shower rack, until I get around to building a better one. The switch stuffed up so after seeing ttit's mag base controller, I bought an e-stop, an extra set of contacts, some cable and a jiffy box and made my own. Hot glued to the back of the jiffy box is a ring magnet out of a microwave magnetron with some felt over the top so it doesn't clang as it sticks, so when I am around the back of the lathe I take it with me, and feel a little safer not having to reach around the belts or spinning work to stop or start.
The double sided sandpaper tree is tapped into the headstock and holds 60grit up to 2000.
A magnet on the bed extension keeps small tools handy.
The biggest downside is the poor alignment of the tailstock, but after messing about with shims, grinder and welder, it is only a bit better and I just put up with it.
The crappy cast levers on the toolrest and tailstock locks broke off, and are somewhere on my list of things to fix. Until then a 3/8 ring spanner hangs from the bottom of the shower rack.

If anyone is putting off building a heavier stand for a lathe like mine, just do it! Its really worth it, like getting a new one kinda.

artme
19th January 2008, 08:54 AM
That's a bloody good lathe Thunker!! just look at what it turns!!:D:D:D

Skew ChiDAMN!!
19th January 2008, 02:43 PM
The original toolrest annoyed me so I built a 200mm one and hardly use the other now.
[...]
The crappy cast levers on the toolrest and tailstock locks broke off, and are somewhere on my list of things to fix. Until then a 3/8 ring spanner hangs from the bottom of the shower rack.

What a coinkydink...! :U

orraloon
19th January 2008, 02:51 PM
So far I like Ron's one. Does it have var speed?
Good to see what people can knock together.

woodwork wally
19th January 2008, 03:19 PM
I run an mc1100 which has all the usual problems of which most can be overcome or fixed except for turning large diameter items but I would love to try turning on sonofbluegrass's unit . Having a love of old machinery and a collection of old farm engines that is my choice so far . It would make as good a quality sawdust as any of the others and for a lower price . and ron "I aint laughing. " regards Wally

son_of_bluegras
19th January 2008, 04:07 PM
No laughs from me Ron...
looks to me like it has everything you need to spin wood.
You should post a photo of your work sometime.
Welcome,
tm

Yes it turns wood. It is a bit underpowered at 1/4 horse. Haven't had much opportunity to do a lot of turning aside from some replacement handles for the fencing club I belong to, but when I get something worthwhile done I'll be sure to post photos.

I have put pics of a box I finished the other day in the box forum.

ron

rsser
19th January 2008, 04:48 PM
What a coinkydink...! :U

Hmm, why am I not clicking on Answers.com to get a def on this euphonious term?

So, give Skew!

Skew ChiDAMN!!
19th January 2008, 06:14 PM
Hmm, why am I not clicking on Answers.com to get a def on this euphonious term?

Errmmm... think "co-incidence." :-


It is a bit underpowered at 1/4 horse. Haven't had much opportunity to do a lot of turning aside from some replacement handles for the fencing club I belong to, but when I get something worthwhile done I'll be sure to post photos.

1/4HP may mean it quickly stalls when hogging out, but that simply makes it more important to learn correct techniques and keep the tools sharp. It teaches finesse. :) Sure, the motor would struggle to spin up larger pieces, but I'm sure it'd still spin up pieces beyond many "hobby turner's" abilities.

Besides, it delivers significantly more power than my pride'n'joy in this thread. :U The important bit is "Yes it turns wood." :2tsup:

TTIT
19th January 2008, 11:44 PM
My pride and joy (she's even taking swimming lessons soon!!:C). Thought I'd better get a pic now - who knows what might happen tomorrow :shrug:.
All the bit's and pieces have been posted at one time or another and can be seen closer on my website here (http://web.aanet.net.au/ttit/gadgets/gadgets.htm) http://web.aanet.net.au/ttit/gadgets/gadgets.htm. The only new thing is the mallet I finally got around to making (only been turning 4 or 5 years :B) and of course the Vermec chuck. I'm going to do a review on the chuck when Thunkner gets his butt round here with some Nova jaws for me to try on it :;.
Oh, and in case I forgot to mention it - I love my Stubby :U

Skew ChiDAMN!!
20th January 2008, 12:32 AM
You don't reckon that with the rising waters all those little signs and arrows will get wet and fall off? :innocent:

artme
20th January 2008, 07:28 AM
When I grow up I want a workshop like that!!:q:q:D

Sawdust Maker
20th January 2008, 10:10 PM
What's the wooden mallet for?

HappyHammer
22nd January 2008, 12:19 PM
What's the wooden mallet for?
To hit the knock out bar with to remove the morse taper attached to Centres and chucks for example.

HH.

Sawdust Maker
22nd January 2008, 01:13 PM
HH
Thanks
haven't needed to use such force as yet but then I've only been playing with lathes a little over a year ... and by damn it's fun:D

HappyHammer
22nd January 2008, 01:18 PM
HH
Thanks
haven't needed to use such force as yet but then I've only been playing with lathes a little over a year ... and by damn it's fun:D
You don't hit it hard just a tap with the mallet should do the job.:;

HH.

ss_11000
22nd January 2008, 02:24 PM
What's the wooden mallet for?
knocking the drive centre in to the wood.:cool:

Lutefisk
22nd January 2008, 02:28 PM
can't see much of the lathe, but i turn on a jet mini and a delta midi. i prefer the jet but i got a good price on the delta. my daughter has taken an interest so now we don't have to share. usually i wear a 3m breatheasy rig but the battery was dead.

canchippy
23rd January 2008, 12:17 PM
My first was this Rockwell Beaver 6" x 32" which I slowed down with a lay shaft. Ran with a 1/3HP motor and turned 14"dia outboard a few times.
65505
Then I managed to scoop this one. A 1950's Rockwell 46-420 that came as seen with a Leeson EVS and a 3Ph 1hp motor plus Oneway chuck with ALL the jaws and 3 faceplates,2 toolrests and a live centre. $893AUD
65506
Then I saw this Jet with some tools, Talon chuck, Wolverine Grinding jigs, and 10 3" faceplates for $558AUD. As it has the same spindle size as the 46-420 and I wanted the Wolverine so it had to follow me home.
65507
They all have +++ and --- but the 46-460 is so easy to get stuff for I think it'll be around for a while. I swopped the Rockwell Beaver to a new turner in exchange for wood. He's an arborist so I get some different local woods from him. The Jet is for portability if I ever decide to do some travelling.
With wind chill we are a toasty -22ºC today

Sawdust Maker
23rd January 2008, 02:51 PM
Stirlo
Thanks
and just to think I've been using a hunk of wood to set the spur drive. I'll have to turn a mallet! Beauty something else to do:)
I have to admit I was a tad perplexed re the knockout bar as I've used it to tap out the centres etc without a problem, that way I can do one handed and catch the centre with the other

ss_11000
23rd January 2008, 02:55 PM
yeah, i've always been able to lightly tap them out to.

Calm
23rd January 2008, 03:22 PM
I never hit the drive spur with anything. Just place the wood between centres and screw the tailstock up until the drive spurs catch.

Hitting it will only bend/damage the edge of the spurs.

ss_11000
23rd January 2008, 03:40 PM
I never hit the drive spur with anything. Just place the wood between centres and screw the tailstock up until the drive spurs catch.

Hitting it will only bend/damage the edge of the spurs.
i got taught not to do that because it puts uneccessary pressure on the headstock bearings.

i cant see the spurs being damaged by hitting the end of the drive. the only thing i could see happening is they will get blunt, but i always give mine a quick touch up before starting anyway.

http://www.carbatec.com.au/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=300_14460_14560
this is a product designed to be hit to create a nice slot for the drive spur. the product description discourages what you are doing.
Designed to punch a drive dog impression in your stock. This saves unnecessary thrust and stress on your headstock and tailstock.

Skew ChiDAMN!!
23rd January 2008, 06:40 PM
Hitting it will only bend/damage the edge of the spurs.

Not if you use a wooden mallet... unless you're using a really, really cheap'n'nasty drive spur.

And in my experience even if you use a 4lb mesh hammer and wallop the living hell out of the cheap 'uns, it's not the edges of the spurs that get damaged... :no: instead, the end of the MT starts to mushroom out and round over, so it won't seat squarely in the headstock.

DAMHIKT. :B Suffice it to say that I have a couple of 'em that're used just to punch starter marks in the ends of blanks as they ain't much chop for anything else. :roll:

Evan Pavlidis
23rd January 2008, 08:44 PM
My pride and joy (she's even taking swimming lessons soon!!:C). Thought I'd better get a pic now - who knows what might happen tomorrow :shrug:.
All the bit's and pieces have been posted at one time or another and can be seen closer on my website here (http://web.aanet.net.au/ttit/gadgets/gadgets.htm) http://web.aanet.net.au/ttit/gadgets/gadgets.htm. The only new thing is the mallet I finally got around to making (only been turning 4 or 5 years :B) and of course the Vermec chuck. I'm going to do a review on the chuck when Thunkner gets his butt round here with some Nova jaws for me to try on it :;.
Oh, and in case I forgot to mention it - I love my Stubby :U

Excellent website ttit :2tsup:. You give a complete picture of the various timbers found in your neck of the woods; you are blessed :D. Wish I could get my hands on those desert acacias.
I like your lathe lifter and how it operates as a parallelogram; just have a question, can it fold over to the right as you are raising it with the jack since I noticed you don't have a stop?

Cheers, Evan

TTIT
24th January 2008, 12:01 AM
............... I like your lathe lifter and how it operates as a parallelogram; just have a question, can it fold over to the right as you are raising it with the jack since I noticed you don't have a stop?

Cheers, EvanTake a look at the attached pic Evan - the plate on the inside of the frame can only move to upright and no further - unless you REALLLY give the jack a pizzlin':o


........ http://www.carbatec.com.au/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=300_14460_14560
this is a product designed to be hit to create a nice slot for the drive spur. the product description discourages what you are doing.Looked at one of these myself once - then realized you can buy 2 normal spurs for the same price - one to belt the cr@p out of and the other to use in the headstock - much better system :;

Caveman
24th January 2008, 12:20 AM
G'day all - don't have a clear pic of my lathe, but here's a few of a happy lathe (and a happy Stubby owner):).
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Can't fault it yet - cept it took too long to get here:D.

ss_11000
24th January 2008, 12:26 AM
that looks like fun Andy:2tsup:

Evan Pavlidis
24th January 2008, 02:49 AM
Take a look at the attached pic Evan - the plate on the inside of the frame can only move to upright and no further - unless you REALLLY give the jack a pizzlin':o

Ah yes :D. Thanks mate