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bennylaird
12th February 2008, 11:47 AM
OK I know I could search more but I didn't find my answer when I did.

I have the lathe but have not yet had a chance to do anything with it. I will be attending a club or a turnfest asap.

Until then I will start building up my chisels. Question is what do I need for the first 5 or 6?

roughing?
oval skew?
Domed scraper
spindle?
Parting & beading?
Deep bowl?
Sizes?

Will be getting P&N's probably from Carbitech as they are on my way home from work.

Also need a chuck for my H&F WL-20, is the basic HAFCO ok or should I get something better?

Thanks in advance.

petersemple
12th February 2008, 12:11 PM
I started with a basic boxed set of HSS chisels from Carbatec. Roughing, skew, spindle, bowl, parting tool scraper. So far that's all the chisels I own. I guess what you need first depends a bit on what you intend to make first.

peter

bennylaird
12th February 2008, 12:24 PM
Thanks Peter, was going to go that way but thought I should buy goods ones in order to build up a long lasting set. If it all falls through and turning isn't for me someone will get a good deal I suppose.

I think I will be mainly interested in bowls and boxes etc, salt and pepper shakers?

thefixer
12th February 2008, 12:41 PM
You're in werribee and carbatec is on your way home from work. Thats a lot of travelling each day.

bennylaird
12th February 2008, 12:48 PM
Teach at Eumemmerring College in Hallam.

RETIRED
12th February 2008, 01:00 PM
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showthread.php?t=367

rsser
12th February 2008, 01:06 PM
or http://www.peterchild.co.uk/info1/firsttools.htm

Cliff Rogers
12th February 2008, 01:12 PM
G'day Benny.

This is a snip from another post that I trot of for this question.

Read the post below & the ones that it links to.
There is a set that a couple of the blokes mention that they started with.
Here is a set that is not too bad to start with.
http://vermec.tripod.com/PDFs/economychisels.pdf
Carbtec also sell the same set.

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=46236

DJ’s Timber
12th February 2008, 03:55 PM
Will be getting P&N's probably from Carbitech as they are on my way home from work.


I think you might find that Carbatec don't sell P&N chisels, unless they got them in the last few weeks.

artme
12th February 2008, 04:19 PM
Roughing gouge - Min 25mm
Spindle gouge -12/15 mm
Deepfluted bowl gouge - 10/12mm (allP&N have deep flutes of the best profile0
Skew chisel - 25mm
Round nose scraper -18/25 mm.
Parting tool.
That'll keep you busy!!

bennylaird
12th February 2008, 04:41 PM
I think you might find that Carbatec don't sell P&N chisels, unless they got them in the last few weeks.

Your right, it was Hare and Forbes that I was going to get them from:B

Baz
12th February 2008, 05:37 PM
Benny why not go for a drive down to Jim Carroll's shop and have a yarn to him, he stocks P&N, best to buy unhandled and make your own.
Cheers
Barry

killerbeast
12th February 2008, 05:37 PM
Get a set, that´s not the really really expensive. I am a newbie myself and found that (and still do) that i experiment and train with sharpening, and that im still trying to find out the type of grind for the different kinds of tools...

R

artme
12th February 2008, 06:22 PM
has a lot of merit.:2tsup::2tsup:

weisyboy
12th February 2008, 07:31 PM
roughing gouge - 25mm +
spindle gouge - 10mm - 12mm
parting tool - 6mm
bowl gouge - 10mm - 15mm
bowl gouge - 15mm - 25mm
rund nose scraper - 12mm - 20mm

a small parting tool is also helpfull - 3mm

ss_11000
12th February 2008, 07:43 PM
dont you like the skew chisel carl:?

i find i use my 1/2 inch skew the most. then the roughing gouge and then my fave tool - my 10mm hamlett spindle gouge.

bennylaird
13th February 2008, 08:09 AM
Thanks Guys for all your help. Hope to pick up some soon.

Sarge
13th February 2008, 08:30 AM
I have been following this thread, and others, with interest. I am also upgrading my tools and have been making a list and checking it twice.

I'm pretty much following the sizes that everyone has suggested, for the 6 main tools listed below, all P&N as suggested by the majority

Roughing Gouge 32mm
Spindle Gouge 19mm
Bowl Gouge 10mm
Skew Chisel 24x8mm
Round nose scrapper 24x8
Parting Tool 3x12mm

Jim Carroll has un-handled tools for $399
Hare & Forbes Handled tools for $442.
This is only their advertised prices

Is there some where else that I can look to compare prices.

Both sites show the Supa Gouge, where does this fit into this list, does it replace something or does is have a separate purpose.

Thanks
Ron

jerryc
13th February 2008, 09:10 AM
This tip might be useful for newbies learning the gentle art of flutes gouge sharpening. When teaching newbies, I had a few pieces of half round mild steel on hand so that beginners could learn the gentle art of gouge sharpening without losing too much of their newly acquired tools. It's cheaper.

Jerry


Everyone is entitled to my opinion

graemet
13th February 2008, 08:11 PM
What Said !!!!!!!!

weisyboy
13th February 2008, 08:48 PM
dont you like the skew chisel carl:?

i find i use my 1/2 inch skew the most. then the roughing gouge and then my fave tool - my 10mm hamlett spindle gouge.

na i cant bloudy get a skew to work.

im not having the dig in problem most have im quite the oposite i cant get the bludy thing to cut.

hoping someone at the gold coast BBQ will show me.

rsser
13th February 2008, 09:09 PM
Sarge, the Supa Gouge is good for hogging out in faceplate work.

It has a pretty horrible flute shape IMO. It's hard to get a durable and nicely shaped flute wing for cutting with on a fingernail grind.

funkychicken
13th February 2008, 10:15 PM
na i cant muddy get a skew to work.

im not having the dig in problem most have im quite the oposite i cant get the bludy thing to cut.

hoping someone at the gold coast BBQ will show me.


I would have shown you how today but we were in a hurry (and missed your driveway:doh:)

ss_11000
13th February 2008, 11:13 PM
na i cant bloudy get a skew to work.

im not having the dig in problem most have im quite the oposite i cant get the bludy thing to cut.

hoping someone at the gold coast BBQ will show me.ah, tis easy...you'll get the hang of it after a demo.:2tsup:

weisyboy
14th February 2008, 08:21 AM
hope so

Sawdust Maker
14th February 2008, 08:38 PM
na i cant bloudy get a skew to work.

im not having the dig in problem most have im quite the oposite i cant get the bludy thing to cut.

hoping someone at the gold coast BBQ will show me.

WB
My local library has the Richard Raffan videos/dvds for loan - one of them (turning wood) has a reasonable demo, check with your local library they also might have them or even the aptly named "taming of the skew" by Mike Darlow, I haven't seen this one to comment

good luck

Drjay
19th January 2009, 10:06 PM
Can you supply an address and phone number or website?

thefixer
19th January 2009, 10:14 PM
Can you supply an address and phone number or website?


www.carbatec.com.au (http://www.carbatec.com.au)

although Hare and Forbes would be closer to you.

https://www.machineryhouse.com.au/

Woodworking warehouse in Braeside too

http://165.228.72.165/webshop/EWWHome.csp

Cheers
Shorty