Stansbury and Port Vincent Wooden and Classic Boats Regatta

[Daddles]

It's on this weekend :D

Who's going? What'll you be doing? Most importantly, where will you be staying (so we can get together or avoid each other as the case may be :cool:).

Mike and I will be there. It looks like we'll have Gumnut (Nutshell pram) and Redback - taking the 18 footer is sadly becoming more remote. This also means we won't be doing the run from Vinnie to Stansbury :rolleyes: We'll be arriving saturday arvo (kid's stuff in the morning) so we're assuming heading straight to Stansbury is the smart move. Look for a stumpy white boat with a brown sail and a big spider on her transom - alternatively, look for a scared, wet bloke who looks like he's lost his glasses in the capsize :oo:

Where and when are the small boat activities Mik?

Richard

[Boatmik]

From before Daddles ...

STANSBURY AND PORT VINCENT BOAT FESTIVAL

Info is here on the SEASCOUTS page.
http://www.seascouts.sa.scouts.com.au/calendar/event_details.asp?id=80

Date: Fri, 11-13 Apr 2008
Most of the small boat activities on Sat and Sun.
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We will have a couple of the DFlat PDRacers there.

Also no-one really needs to know that Daddles will be in a Fibreglass boat.

So I'll keep it very quiet.

MIK

[Daddles]

From before Daddles ...

STANSBURY AND PORT VINCENT BOAT FESTIVAL

Info is here on the SEASCOUTS page.
http://www.seascouts.sa.scouts.com.au/calendar/event_details.asp?id=80

Date: Fri, 11-13 Apr 2008
Most of the small boat activities on Sat and Sun.
_____________________________________

We will have a couple of the DFlat PDRacers there.

Also no-one really needs to know that Daddles will be in a Fibreglass boat.

So I'll keep it very quiet.

MIK

Oh dear, won't this be fun :D

1/ The seascouts link here doesn't work though the link in the other thread does although it doesn't really tell you much unless you're a sea scout (despite having the official handouts which don't tell you anything) :cool:

2/ Small boat activities on sat and sun ... but where? Stansbury? And what will they be? :? Oh okay, there'll be the 'dodge the mad bugger in the funny little boat' event but that's more self preservation than an official event :D

3/ I know you'll have PDRs but where are you staying? Stansbury or Edithburgh? Or are you trying to avoid me :((

4/ Nope, no fibre glass as it happens. I'll be in Redback which is all plywood ... apart from the poxy and paint :D The big trailer sailer won't be ready unfortunately so we're bringing the wee boaties :wink:

5/ Nah, I won't bother with this one ... just yet :oo:

Besides, I wanted to know who'll be there and in what so we can all keep an eye out for each other :wink: "Mummy, why did that man jump off his boat and hide in the bushes?" :oo:

Richard

now I'll go back to the wreckage of an evening that is going quite spectucularly 'wrong' - fortunately I finished in the shed before the wheels started falling off stuff :C

[Boatmik]

Sorry Daddles - corrected the links in the above. Nice to know you are bringing Redback!

Ted has booked at Stansbury.

I haven't been before, but I think the way it works is that Saturday is at Stansbury and some of the boats leave by water at 2pm or by road a bit later to get to Port Vincent.

Sunday is at Port Vincent.

But I haven't been at all. I know we are booked to go to the communal meal thingy (ie a dinner) on the Saturday night.

MIK

[Daddles]

Sorry if I came across a bit terse - twas a shocker of an evening, just stuff, nothing major, but enough to make you wonder if you ran over the local witch's cat coming in the driveway.:C

I'll have to check whether Mike's booked us into the dinner yet. That was the plan but our plans are bit unsettled at the moment.

Who else is coming?

Richard

[Nifty1]

Won't be there, but have a boat that was reputedly built in the area about 1930-1935. 17 foot "couta" boat, or more probably a whiting boat, with a mast and boom that were salvaged from an even older boat (this is a renovation project for my retirement). The bottom 3 planks are jarrah, the balance oregon, and some cretin has fitted a construction ply deck over treated pine deck beams! I believe it may have been a working boat and it never carried a name, but it did carry 12 dozen live whiting back under sail one time. I also heard that a previous owner sailed it from Whyalla to Port Victoria. If anyone at Stansbury finds out any information about this type of boat I'd be interested to hear. Enjoy the festival - I hope to get there in future.

[Daddles]

'twas a great weekend. Gumnut (Nutshell pram), two PDRs and the mighty Redback terrorised the locals with feats of nautical derring doo and proved once and for all that the wee wooden boat is a far greater invention than the thermonuclear explosive. Light winds, calm seas and generous public ale houses provided an environment within which the home built small boat showed the great unwashed that elegance, pleasure and sheer unadulterated FUN can be had for bloody little outlay and moderate ability. It was indeed a good weekend ... especially as Redback chose not to embaress the PDRs with her speed under sail, but chose to do so with her speed when ROWED instead :oo:

Just to paraphrase for you lot who missed out - Ted, Mik, Mike and I had a GREAT time mucking about in our wee boaties :2tsup:

Richard

[Buzza]

I knew it, someone would have to say "You should have been there"! Well I couldn't have made it anyhow, but I'm certainly pleased to hear you all had a great time.:)

[Boatmik]

Howdy All,

Was quite interesting - a really nice little country show really.

Saturday we launched from the beach in the town leaving two duckflat photographic sandwich boards up on the beach. It was the only display!!! (because most people were over at the marina) .

So lots of people watching the Ducks (PDRacers). Went over a sailed around the marina where the bigger boats were launching (about a km away). Sailing up close spinning the boat on the spot, chatting to people as I went past them. So everyone knows the boat handles well.

Richard and Mike turned up with their little lapstrake boats. There is a slight disparity in sail area :- between their Nutshell rigs and the PDRacers. Also a slight disparity in speed - with the PDRs much faster and much more manoeuverable.

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On Sunday relocated to Stansbury. Only off the beach sailing. Sunday market along the shoreline plus boats plus stationary engines, hotrods, historic motorbikes. Was pretty good - Nice atmosphere.

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The great things about such shows are the unexpected things. There is an International 505 dinghy in poor condition but with all the original fittings - fantastic example of great engineering and building skills. I will put more pics up later once I have them organised.

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Another was the beautiful Chinook that was brought over from Wales (the original - no New South) by Bernard Goebels - a very fine woodworker. It has been in his family for a long time.

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Had one PDR on display and the other one down on the beach being sailed by Ted or me from time to time. LOTS of people have bought the PDR Plans. I'd reckon I spoke to about 10 people at least who had bought plans because they are cheap and good and interesting - but were not sure how the boat would sail.

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Now they know. Lots of nice comments as people saw the boats whizzing around.

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Few can believe that it works so well. I put together a new standard explanation that "a boat sails well because of TECHNICAL reasons" - and none of them are really visible. Everyone looks at a conventional boat and "THINK" they understand what a boat needs to be like "pointy at one end with an aluminium (or increasingly a carbon) mast". But the real reason a boat works is because the technical side is right - and that is not a visible thing at all.

Duckflat Boatbuilding school starts tomorrow - 25 Secker Rd Mt Barker if anyone wants to drop in for a stickybeak - it starts to be interesting from around Friday as people have made enough progress and have enough confidence by then to "just get on with it"

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This pic is from last year.

MIK

[fenderbelly]

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But i didnt know who or what i was looking for. sorry guys
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[Daddles]

So, you went and IGNORED us :oo:
Cor, what do you expect from a stinkpot pilot :cool:

So which of those boats did the Vinnie to Stansbury run? :D It would have been a good run in a putt putt and you seemed to hold the group together really well. It was good watching you all come into the bay at the end, circle and then head off for the marina. The boys under sail all had a slower time of it with a number turning around once they realised how slow their overall speed was (the scouts for example, sailed for an hour, turned around and were back on the beach 15mins later :rolleyes:)

Richard

[Boatmik]

The powerboat in the upper pic made the run up to Stansbury only a few minutes after everyone left from Vincent!

The rest came in an hour later (having used a bit less fuel - but also having to slowly fight the waves that came up through the morning)

MIK

[fenderbelly]

Guys i don't own a boat, i only came along to meet you all but didnt know who to look for. i saw the 3 boats in the second pic sail off to i think the area off the caravan park.I f i had known it was you i would have came along there.:)

[b.o.a.t.]

MIK wrote:

Also a slight disparity in speed - with the PDRs much faster and much more manoeuverable.


At this I am gob-smacked. Redback & Gumnut blew me away with their manoeverability at West Lakes.

[Boatmik]

I hope I can post the video of the PDR sailing alongside Redback in the next little while. It is doing some post production at Biting Midge's.

I only sent it to him on Wednesday.

We all had a great time at that little boatshow.

MIK

[b.o.a.t.]

I hope I can post the video of the PDR sailing alongside Redback in the next little while. It is doing some post production at Biting Midge's.
MIK

Which reminds me... my Dad & I popped in on the Midge the other week for a squiz at his fleet. Much appreciated.

There is rather more of GIS than the videos suggest. A bit like the AT802 water bombers the CFS rents each year. From a distance one's eye says "what a sleek little boat/plane". Up close they are both huge! All the more so for being tucked up under the verandah I suppose. (The Goat, not an AT)

Dad was rather taken with the PDRs, & I have to admit they are growing on me too.
I wonder how they'd go in conditions like these Optimists (http://www.ybw.com/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1774723/an/0/page/0/gonew/1#UNREAD) off Argentina...
And whether a square sail is an option rather than the leg'o'mutton.

cheers
AJ

[Boatmik]

Howdy BOAT,

the video is finally up here
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showthread.php?t=71862

Those pics of the Oppies are fantastic - when I first saw them I thought they were faked.

I must admit I haven't had the PDRacer out in swell like that.

http://www.capizzano.com/Semana_de_Mar_del_Plata_2008/img/CAPIZZANO01526.jpg

However ... there are two things to think about.

1/ While a large boat might have a really hard time dropping off waves that size and risk doing big damage ... what is the worst thing that can happen to an Optimist?

Answer - the wind can knock it over. (and I suppose the risk is that one can go over and the rescue boats overlook them in such a big swell with whitecaps)

2/ And one has to have a pretty high regard for the saling skills of Oppie sailors - some of the angles of the boats and the positions of the crew indicate a great deal of excitement!

MIK