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ElizaLeahy
9th February 2009, 04:22 PM
Love to get some of that to turn... However, that's not what the thread is about.

:U

So why do they call the file a "round bastard"?

rotten_66
9th February 2009, 04:29 PM
" I know the bastard is round here somwhere", this is what I call out after most of my tools, mainly after the three junior apprentices have decided to help dad.

ElizaLeahy
9th February 2009, 04:52 PM
" I know the bastard is round here somwhere", this is what I call out after most of my tools, mainly after the three junior apprentices have decided to help dad.


I knew there had to be a logical reason :)

Gra
9th February 2009, 05:16 PM
I think it is something to do with the teeth (Because you get a flat bastard as well)

Gra
9th February 2009, 05:21 PM
Ahhh.. Wikipeadia is you friend


A file's teeth can range from rough, coarse and bastard (meaning intermediate) to second-cut, smooth and dead smooth.

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastard_file

Skew ChiDAMN!!
9th February 2009, 05:25 PM
As I was taught, instead of having it's teeth cut in a cross-hatch pattern, a "bastard" is cut only in one direction.

ie. instead of teeth like pointy fish scales, they're more like a snake's belly scales.

But I like the wiki's interpretation... a long sword is a one-hander, a great sword is a two-hander and a bastard sword is a "one-and-a-half" hander. :)

ElizaLeahy
9th February 2009, 05:51 PM
But I like the wiki's interpretation... a long sword is a one-hander, a great sword is a two-hander and a bastard sword is a "one-and-a-half" hander. :)


Must be for butchers.

Lignin
9th February 2009, 06:18 PM
New Aussie went to tool store for a file.
"Do you want a 12 inch bastard??""
No thanks, a little triangular one will do!!":?:?

(V old joke, cleaned up):no:

Skew ChiDAMN!!
9th February 2009, 08:10 PM
Cleaned up beyond funny. :sigh:

BTW, that must've been very small unicorn, Eliza. :)

Ashore
9th February 2009, 08:26 PM
Yep the bastard is the coarsest , then second cut then smooth and then mill , its like using diffrent grit sand paper the finer the file the less metal it removes and the smoother the finish :2tsup:

Ad de Crom
9th February 2009, 08:27 PM
Eliza, maybe they used a round bastart file for this job, but it's also possible to do it another way. Are you going to try it, or have you made what the picture shows, I'm a little bit confused, but guys of my age are most of the time confused :D
Ad

artme
9th February 2009, 09:31 PM
Thought bastard referred to difficulty and hardness as in "nil carborundum desperandum" = Don't let the bastards get you down.

Apparently Carborundum and Bastard were once interchangeable.

Texian
10th February 2009, 12:51 PM
And BTW Eliza, that is a great looking stick! Did you make it?

ElizaLeahy
10th February 2009, 12:59 PM
Sorry for the confusion - yes, I made it.
:p

ElizaLeahy
10th February 2009, 01:10 PM
I also made these...

What do you think? Have I improved? :p

Ed Reiss
10th February 2009, 01:20 PM
...are the spiral ones for curly hair?:roll:

Lookin' good Eliza:2tsup:

ElizaLeahy
10th February 2009, 01:23 PM
...are the spiral ones for curly hair?:roll:

Lookin' good Eliza:2tsup:


Don't get me started...

Curly hair does hold sticks better. Spirals or bumps in the sticks hold better then shiny straight ones, because they don't slip out so easily.

Texian
10th February 2009, 01:56 PM
Definitely improving daily. The spirals are impressive, and would be interested to know how you make them. At this rate you will be ready to teach classes in a few more days.

ElizaLeahy
10th February 2009, 02:43 PM
Definitely improving daily. The spirals are impressive, and would be interested to know how you make them. At this rate you will be ready to teach classes in a few more days.

I turned down to the size I wanted, then stopped the lathe and pulled out the old bastard. I point the bastard at the wall and file away, while slowly turning the lathe with my left hand. As long as I point the file at the same spot on the wall, the spirals turn out fine. I tried measuring and drawing guide lines - but I quickly slipped off them. This way is better!

Then I sand the edges of the spiral smooth with sand paper over my finger, then I turn the lathe back on and finish turning and sanding. :)

Texian
10th February 2009, 04:18 PM
Must be your artist's eye. Most folks would need some guide lines. Not sure I could do a spiral either way or any way. They look good from here.

ElizaLeahy
10th February 2009, 05:08 PM
Well, you know what they say about Persian rugs.

Gra
10th February 2009, 05:11 PM
Well, you know what they say about Persian rugs.

What?, they should be on the head of bald persians? :D:D:D


Nice sticks by the way (what are they really called?

Manuka Jock
10th February 2009, 05:13 PM
...are the spiral ones for curly hair?:roll:

:o 'struth Ed , your gonna get into trouble now :q



Nice hairpin Eliza , :2tsup:

nifty way of doing a small barley twist too

ElizaLeahy
10th February 2009, 05:22 PM
Honest, they are called hair sticks :)

Persian rugs - hand made, dreadfully expensive. Each one has a tiny flaw - put in on purpose by the creator to show that it was made by the hand of man.

So I figure that any flaws in my work just show I'm human!

It's as good as excuse as any!

Looks like it's going to rain!

Ed Reiss
11th February 2009, 01:07 AM
:o 'struth Ed , your gonna get into trouble now :q



Nice hairpin Eliza , :2tsup:

nifty way of doing a small barley twist too

...wouldn't be the first or last, MJ :U

oldiephred
11th February 2009, 06:41 AM
There was once a term used for certain animals (including people) which were considered neither he nor she and the term was bastard. It was also used to describe an " illigitamate" child. Obviously,this is now politically incorrect.
A mill bastard file is neither fine nor coarse, ergo a bastard.

Rum Pig
11th February 2009, 08:45 AM
I think you have improved and are doing very well:2tsup:

I like the second stick in your last post very nice:2tsup::2tsup:

TTIT
11th February 2009, 09:07 AM
There was once a term used for certain animals (including people) which were considered neither he nor she and the term was bastard. It was also used to describe an " illigitamate" child. Obviously,this is now politically incorrect.
A mill bastard file is neither fine nor coarse, ergo a bastard.Best explanation I've seen so far :U


PS: and all this time I thought you were a lazy typist from New South Wales :no::;

PPSS: Eliza - give us a yell when you're ready for some "real" wood! :;

Manuka Jock
11th February 2009, 08:45 PM
There was once a term used for certain animals (including people) which were considered neither he nor she and the term was bastard. It was also used to describe an " illigitamate" child. Obviously,this is now politically incorrect.
A mill bastard file is neither fine nor coarse, ergo a bastard.

Same with a bastard roof .
'A roof with different pitches on different planes'.
Unequal pitch on one side , from the other / others

Texian
12th February 2009, 12:25 PM
Have heard that the term may be applied by a woman to her husband, as in, "You are a sorry medium coarse sob." Just hearsay evidence, you know.

ElizaLeahy
12th February 2009, 12:26 PM
PPSS: Eliza - give us a yell when you're ready for some "real" wood! :;

I thought that is what I was using!!!!! :o

arose62
13th February 2009, 07:39 PM
Hi Eliza,

just had a look at Elven Hair, and spotted a "then" which should be a "than".

First line of text:
"Nothing is warmer and more beautiful then timber".

Cheers,
Andrew

ElizaLeahy
13th February 2009, 07:46 PM
Hi Eliza,

just had a look at Elven Hair, and spotted a "then" which should be a "than".

First line of text:
"Nothing is warmer and more beautiful then timber".

Cheers,
Andrew


Trust me to make a spelling mistake in the first line! LOL

Thanks Andrew :)

TTIT
13th February 2009, 10:25 PM
Trust me to make a spelling mistake in the first line! LOL

Thanks Andrew :)Wow - hope he doesn't visit my site :o:C:B

arose62
14th February 2009, 02:13 PM
Well, I just did (visit your site), and think it should be promoted more.

The lathe lifter is so cool, the variable speed sander - blindingly obvious, so why haven't more folks done something like this, and the circle jig - never seen one which keys from the top before.

All very inspiring and rather 'umbling.

Cheers,
Andrew

DsArt
24th April 2009, 12:26 PM
if you miss and cop yourself you`ll know why it`s called a bastard:o

DsArt
24th April 2009, 12:31 PM
If you miss and cop yourself you`ll know why it`s called a bastard:o