a bowlskew... something different

[hughie]

Found this on my wanderings. It seems to be, essentially a spindle gouge machined from a square stock. Check around a few other forums and those who have one say it cuts real well and leave a very good finish.


http://www.crownhandtools.ltd.uk/products/davehoutbowlskews.asp

Its an interesting idea, a square spindle gouge. :U

[jchappo]

McJing have something similar


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[orificiam]

Looks Interesting Thanks Hughie.
Cheers Tony.:)

[hughie]

Looks like Mcjings are way cheaper, check out the USA price


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The Dave Hout Deep Bowl Skew was developed by the well respected North American woodturner, Dave Hout. The Deep Bowl Skew is used for making finished cuts on bowls up to 5"-6" in diameter. The cut is shear and leaves the end grain smooth. With practice, sanding can be all but eliminated.
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[TTIT]

Is it used on its back or its side ??????? Looks like it would dig straight in on its back - too much cutting area :o :?:no:

[Ed Reiss]

...yet another great gadget to check out and not enough $$$$$ to do so:C:doh:

[Grumpy John]

...yet another great gadget to check out and not enough $$$$$ to do so:C:doh:

Yet another tool for the tool junkies :p:D.......... I just might get one :rolleyes:.

[Calm]

Yet another tool for the tool junkies :p:D.......... I just might get one :rolleyes:.

You will need to be quick to beat Jefferson & Ern :D:D:p:p:D:D:q

Cheers

[Grumpy John]

You will need to be quick to beat Jefferson & Ern :D:D:p:p:D:D:q

Cheers

I wasn't game to say it, but I knew you wouldn't be able to resist a :stirthepot:. :2tsup::2tsup:

[jefferson]

You will need to be quick to beat Jefferson & Ern :D:D:p:p:D:D:q

Cheers

Hang on a minute, I have resisted many urges to buy more chisels eg beading tools. That said, I do have a couple more on the way, all approved by I might add!

I'm now into accessory items - chuck count is now 5, 6 if I count a screw chuck when it arrives.

Yes, it's retail therapy and probably over the top, but I hate changing the jaws over. Isn't that reasonable?

Jeff

[Calm]

Hang on a minute, I have resisted many urges to buy more chisels eg beading tools. That said, I do have a couple more on the way, all approved by I might add!

I'm now into accessory items - chuck count is now 5, 6 if I count a screw chuck when it arrives.

Yes, it's retail therapy and probably over the top, but I hate changing the jaws over. Isn't that reasonable?

Jeff

Knowing your previous employment - almost anything is arguable :D:D:D well from one side it is anyway.:2tsup:

Dont worry there is only one thng stopping me from winning this contest ( you know the one where the one that dies with the most tools wins) money or a bankcard with a low limit. :~:~:no::o:((

cheers

[Grumpy John]

............Dont worry there is only one thng stopping me from winning this contest ( you know the one where the one that dies with the most tools wins) money or a bankcard with a low limit. :~:~:no::o:((

cheers

Actually David, IMHO it's the one who inherits those tools is the real winner :p:rolleyes:.

[Paul39]

...yet another great gadget to check out and not enough $$$$$ to do so:C:doh:

Bob Stocksdale from San Francisco made bunches of bowls with just a bowl gouge and a scraper.

See for photos:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=bob+stocksdale+bowls&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2&aq=f&oq=

Rude Osolnik used an old metal lathe with a truck transmission to change speeds for many years. See for his work:

http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&hl=en&sa=1&q=rude+osolnik+bowls&btnG=Search+Images&aq=f&oq=

Manufacturers of toys for any business or hobby try to make us believe that the latest wonderous tool, camera, golf club or ball, etc. will make us expert, rich and lucky at love.

Any of the very competent people with 20 or 30 years of experience can grab any average tool, golf club, race car, camera, etc. and put the rest of us to shame.

I believe it is several hours a day, several days a week, at the lathe that makes us good.

We all have grinders, and if we wanted to experiment with square gouges, round skews, etc., just get a hunk of scrap steel - shock absorber shaft, auto strut shaft, concrete rebar - grind to your pleasure and try it out. It won't cut as long as high speed steel but will work long enough to find out if it is different enough to buy one.

[Tim the Timber Turner]

Fair go guys.

This is a tool that has a great deal of research and development behind it.

Early market testing indicates that it will be a very sucessful tool.

It will extract the maximum amount of dollars from woodturners pockets in the shortest time possible.:2tsup:

Cheers

Tim:)

[Paul39]

I had mentioned a while ago an Osolnik tool by Henry Taylor I had seen in my local den of iniquity. I looked for a photo but could find nothing.

I stuck my nose in said den today and asked if they would take less than the already 50% off on the slightly used tool, They took off another 20%, so I brought it home.

I photographed it and looked for my former post to add photos, the search came up with this thread showing a Crown version from 2009.

Photos below, I think self explanatory.

Rude Osolnik was supposed to very quickly make a lot of turnings with this tool. It looks to be something that someone not used to it could tear big chunks out of a spindle. Such as myself. I will pass on what I learn in the next few days.

[Paul39]

I sharpened the Henry Taylor Osolnik tool free hand on the 120 grit wheel and honed the inside with 240 grit wrapped around a 1/2 inch steel rod.

I mounted a piece of spalted oak, cut off the bark in the middle and end with a roughing gouge and had a go. It was not grabby at all and sliced off the wood with almost no tear out. First Photo

Then I sharpened as above a mystery metal spindle gouge and roughed another mushroom. It was not as free cutting but did make a tighter curve between the mushroom cap and the stem. It did tear out a bit more. Second photo

Mystery metal on left and Henry Taylor on right. Third photo

MM profile. Fourth Photo

A piece of rotten maple with test cuts and tools in the cuts. Tear out was about the same, HT is better. Fifth photo

The HT was easy to use, fast working, and easily makes a very clean cut. The longer curve on the profile makes long curved shapes easily. I did find the square edges made my hand sore, I'll round them off a bit on the bottom. The square bottom does not help rolling the tool, but is not any worse than using a conventional accursed skew.

The other day I did make a mushroom using the accursed skew without a catch. A new experience for me.

[orificiam]

Thanks for the info Paul,
Cheers Tony.:)

[Paul39]

I made another mushroom from hard dry red oak today. I am most pleased with the Osolnik tool. I see why people on this forum rave about Henry Taylor tools. See gun barrel gouge thread.

Thanks to Mrs. Blackie for starting my mushroom addiction.

[soundman]

Back in the 70's, the marketing people in the music business realised they where not making money out of drummers.......guitar players would buy the latest pedal, and a funkier amplifier, they where for ever buying new leads, and all sorts of other gadgets....BUT once they sold a drumkit..all they sold was a few drumsticks.

So they got some big stars to add bells, roto toms, a second base drum, more cymbals and all sorts of other foolishness....AND lots of em started belting the stuffings out of their drums, this broke sticks and busted skins..........and they started making money out of drummers.

But the top session drummers who had work in the studios every week and played on all the top albums, still had simple kits and made a set of sticks last 6 months.

I often wonder if all these people who buy all these fancy tools own a grinder and know how to use it.

cheers