Thread: Only artists with a masters degree can create art

cedar cut from my old mans place
realy nice to work lots of changing colour though the grain sanding was nice time indeed
as for mediums use any thing you got it was metal now wood even film
l cut a dvd to go with the hand 20min long made my wife cry twice in 20min yes medium,,, l love to talk and have people listen so l could get my stories out ,with wood and the like they can take thier time l guess
as ding sis has, furniture with artistic creativity is what l am looking into next,realy know nothing about joins ect hay can you help me with that imposable dovetail joint ,can not get my head around it .now that sort of stuff is great,a chair l think is my next medium just need to learn more about joining

he burnt his hand in a war to save his love ones the wepon he held was a knang.lwill try and finsh this story bit by bit ,unless everybody stops listening

IMHO there's one true artist, Mother nature... everyone else's work is an reinterpretation of it.

Originally Posted by Harry72

IMHO there's one true artist, Mother nature... everyone else's work is an reinterpretation of it.

I kind of agree with this. I think humans have some sort of deep seated insecurity/jealousy issues . Take a fantastic sunset for example. Why are we so unable to just admire it fully and then leave it alone. No. We have to try and capture the beauty in a painting, make it ours.
We cant let it be.

to share the experience of a beautiful sunset with others and better under stand the world around us
l think you look more into it and appreciative than insurity/jealous

Originally Posted by ohno

The ONLY medium which i find can explain my sculptures is the medium of sculpture

Nice work. What wood is that?

could you post one of your sculpture would love to see more here

Heres some of my latest ones.
And yes, the idea of art is to try and refine the things in the world that we find nifty.

angel in houn pine is beautiful the grain at the back of the head is mother nature at her best.it must have been hard work carving that red gum did you spend 1/2 the time sharping your tools

lets see more carving please everybody

Originally Posted by SPIRIT

angel in houn pine is beautiful the grain at the back of the head is mother nature at her best.it must have been hard work carving that red gum did you spend 1/2 the time sharping your tools

lets see more carving please everybody

Ta

Yes that fiddleback redgum was tricky . That was the last piece that i did purely with hand tools. Nothing electric. I used a lot of razor blades for the finer work.

I look at it now and think how much easier it would have been using my Dremel

power tools for me,, love em arbertec carver is also a goodin

Being the presuntuous p.... that I am, can't pass this thread by without putting my two bobs in.

First of all, in purely logical terms, it can be true that one needs to know a lot about art to create art. Otherwise, one ends up reshuffling existing ideas without knowing it. Try to whistle a completely unheard before tune to know what I mean. The true genius that can do it exists, but is the exception to the rule. Ergo, Ben, your wooden hand is beautiful craftmanship, but is not "art". The Not Freudian piece could be, but I have not the knowledge to tell: have you?

Second, what's the point in carping about the fact that a lot of what passes for art is c**p? Apart the fact that everybody's taste is different, isn't it true for almost anything non essential that people buy and sell? Just remember what Barnum said about the impossibility of fooling all the people all the time. If it still considered great after 200 years, I am happy to agree (without confusing this with "antiquity").

Finally, as regards our attitude to nature, I believe it is in between Ben's and Spirit's interpretations: we want to capture it because of our greed, but at the rare best it is greed for knowledge and understanding.

Start thowing the tomatoes. I'm ready.

I went to an art gallery today... no one that is displaying there has had a formal education in art.

Some of the pieces were 'childish', and two pieces in particular grabbed me and i can't stop thinking about them.


On the other hand I spent a boring 2 hours being talked at by some tosser who is almost finished his Art's Masters..... he is coming to Australia to see an artist that is displayed in the Adelaide gallery. He is from Portugal and considers the artist worthy enough to travel all the way out here to see this piece.
He carried on for 2 hours about the "references to classical mythology" that the artist uses.
I've seen the piece and it didn't do anything for me.
This tosser will write his final paper on the piece, get his bit of paper and spend the next few years trying to run seminars and curate exhibitions to make a $.... before settling into some cosy teaching position.

Still can't get the piece by the uneducated guy out of my mine though..... ... I knows good art when I sees it!

interesting will l throw or not to throw
l think you can sum it up by saying (l don't know art but l know what l like)
it is logical that what you have seen and leant over your life will come out in your art work ,so if you like say somebodies elses work it will refect on your work ,with creating art with out any understanding of art in it self
creativity comes from the left side of the brain logic from the right
people are going to be more creative than others that is just life
just a matter of interest l have post a few treads there is one with a full body man (must learn how to do links) when l finished it l felt like it was art

First of all, in purely logical terms, it can be true that one needs to know a lot about art to create art. Otherwise, one ends up reshuffling existing ideas without knowing it. Try to whistle a completely unheard before tune to know what I mean.

Bollocks. The art world borrows from itself intentionally, just as the music world does. The more people know about it, the more they emulate what has gone before, or at the very least it influences their thinking. If you want something that is truly new, it would have to come from someone who has never been educated in art (or music).

Originally Posted by silentC

If you want something that is truly new, it would have to come from someone who has never been educated in art (or music).

True.

But if you didn't have a Master's Degree in Art, you wouldn't have a wide enough knowledge of the background to actually know if it was truly new!

Cheers,

P
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