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Thread: Carving flutes on inside of bowl
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20th April 2013, 05:52 PM #1
Carving flutes on inside of bowl
Could anyone direct me to an online resource or earlier thread that discusses the basics of how to carve flutes on the inside of bowls? The attached photo shows the effect I am looking for. The bowl is in a table top not a lathe turned bowl so the carving cannot be done on a lathe. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks
Rusty
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20th April 2013, 11:12 PM #2
What size will it be?
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21st April 2013, 08:58 AM #3
Carving flutes on inside of bowl
Ask the Ornamental turners, I suspect it was done on an indexing lathe.
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21st April 2013, 09:11 AM #4GOLD MEMBER
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Ugly task which I'm not prepared to try. For one thing, so much of it would be nearly end grain carving and I find that exhausting. What size (diameter, sweep and thickness)? What sort of wood? Done by hand, it will be a chore to keep all the ridges intact. Could be pieces popping off all over the shop.
Don't take this as rain on your parade. Very problematical carving.
However.
Step one is to hollow out the basic form (Forstner bits) and use spoon-bent gouges and a mallet to refine the shape. Even a cardboard template of the sweep would help. Maybe an 18/13 (like a 9/13 but bent) and a 15/13 to smooth out the form.
Step two would be to lay out the pattern with pencil.
Step three would be to carefully plow all the compass point directions then "fill in" the gaps between those. Maybe an 18/6 or an 18/8 would look nice.
It could be done but the price might be prohibitive. Even DIY, you will need $200+ in gouges, mallet and sharpening supplies.
Maybe ask in the CNC forum, those people have XYZ machines.
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21st April 2013, 10:35 AM #5
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21st April 2013, 10:36 AM #6
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21st April 2013, 10:59 AM #7
Sabastiaan is right that appears to be Ornamental Turned using a Rose Engine or an indexed set up on a lathe or Rose Engine.
If the table is already made and the bowl is yet to be turned or gouged out then it maybe a case of where to head next ??
On a table top it is possible also as I see your saying the bowl will be in the centre of a table top? Have you turned the bowl out to shape or is this yet to be done?
One of the Ornamental Turners did make a large Rose Engine to do such it was an experimental one.
If you have a swivel head lathe or access to one it can still be done using and index plate and either a router set up or OT cutting gear.
Another way would be a large CNC router lathe set up.
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21st April 2013, 11:12 AM #8
Fantastic clear directions, just what I was hoping for, thank you very much.
Timber is old good quality red cedar.
Okay, I've just about ruled out a carved finish on this job Unless I was to have very small short scoops all following the direction of the grain, to give an uneven textured effect. A more realistic project perhaps, given the wood and my limited selection of carving tools (none of them bent).
Thanks very much for the replies, much appreciated.Rusty
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21st April 2013, 11:21 AM #9
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21st April 2013, 01:07 PM #10... Steve
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21st April 2013, 01:24 PM #11
This style of carving looks more suitable, given the wood and the carver's minimal skills and tools
Bowl is to be appx 30mm deep by the wayRusty
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21st April 2013, 01:44 PM #12
That would be more doable, Rusty, but you never know.
Perhaps a bit of practice on some scrap? You could try both methods. I think that with time and care, the fluted one wouldn't be as hard as it looks. Red Cedar is pretty easy to carve. My first taste of woodworking was carving Red Cedar, an elephant in a saucer, about the same size that you're planning.
Elephant 1.JPG
It wouldn't need to be perfect. Mine was pretty rough, but it's the effect you want, not necessarily the detail. Most of the elephant was done with a pocket-knife.... Steve
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21st April 2013, 02:58 PM #13GOLD MEMBER
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Can you good folks give me a proper name for what you you call red cedar?
This common , local name stuff has to stop somewhere.
At 53N, Thuja plicata is western red cedar. This an abundant and large conifererous softwood with difficult carving characters. Despite the color and the figure, I suspect that you have something very different in mind.
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21st April 2013, 03:05 PM #14
Sorry, Robson, we don't all speak Latin. How does Toona ciliata sound?(Australian Red Cedar)
Toona ciliata - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia... Steve
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21st April 2013, 03:49 PM #15
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