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    Hi all,

    I can't believe I can't find an existing thread about this! Perhaps you all use the same tools, or perhaps all carving tools are the same. Unlikely I think

    What does everyone think about the quality of the different carving tools out there. Which ones are the best and why? I've heard that Pfeil don't keep and edge very well. FlexCut put me off because I want a handle on every tool.

    I'm a new carver who will build up to carving in aussie hardwoods. I am leaning towards Sorby carving tools but only because I have experience with their other tools and know them to be very high quality.

    What do you all think?

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    hi mate gr8 to have you here

    now most of use here use Pfeil

    i like them coz of the handles
    only got (50 or more of them)
    and pfeil are one of the most used carving tools now days

    were in sydney you carveing m8??
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    [quote=Rubber.Piggy;881549]
    I'm a new carver who will build up to carving in aussie hardwoods.
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    In my limited carving experience, aussie hardwoods chip the edges off Pheil carving chisels especially the smaller gouges. I'd hazard a guess that no carving chisels have been made to suit aussie hardwoods well but don't let me dissuade you, aussie hardwoods have a beauty worth carving into, though be prepared to get expert in sharpening often.

    Um, it's cool, what's in a name and all that jazz but the name Rubber.Piggy, ah, do you mind me asking, just curious OK, why?

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    In fact, chipping of the blade is not a problem caused by the quality of the steel-when we talk about good stuf, of course- it's using the wrong tool ( flat gouge, hard wood and mallet make a very bad trio), or the wrong sharpening-for the hard stuff you need short, steep bevels, the inside bevel is a must (IMO), especially for the mallet work.

    Brands-wise, you' ve got a lot to choose from-I cant say nothing about Robert Sorby or Ashley Iles, since I' ve never used them, and Pfeil has avery good name, but I only have 3 of their tools, and only one is a gouge...
    OK-about a third of my tools (of about a 100) are Henry Taylor- hand made(and they look every bit of it ), they come unsharpened and...well - rather ugly - but the steel is first class, and the range of shapes and models is the biggest on the market.Other brand I like a lot is Two Cherrys-German tools, look very smart, and come ready to use.Don'd know if Mifer is sold in Australia - they are made in Spain, and even if the steel is a bit on the hard side, the tools are just great - polished, beautiful, and with boxwood handles.Here's a link:

    http://www.comercialpazos.es/b2c/ind...&md=0&codp=208

    And maybe my favorite are D.Petrov - bulgarian made tools that I believe are sold only in Bulgaria-a shame really, since they have suche a nice price, too....
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    For what my little bit of input is worth. I've tried other brands and always return to Pfeil. One factor you may want to consider is their quantity and quality of range.
    Personally I like the feel of the handle, when using several chisels with differing shaped handles it takes longer to get the right feel, (maybe that's just me???).
    Have not experienced any problems with chipping of blades. If it's high Silica timber just go slower and shallower. I've done work with my Pfeil chisels in everything from Brush-box and Spotted Gum through to Chilean Myrtle and White Beech.

    Last word...don't baulk at the price they are worth every $.

    Happy Tapping

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    Thanks for your help guys.

    Quote Originally Posted by springwater View Post
    though be prepared to get expert in sharpening often.
    Hehe, no need mate. I've been working aussie hardwoods for years I'm already good at sharpening tools

    Quote Originally Posted by springwater View Post
    Um, it's cool, what's in a name and all that jazz but the name Rubber.Piggy, ah, do you mind me asking, just curious OK, why?
    well, You'll see from my join date that this 'name' is a few year old. My usual forum alias was taken and I was taken and I was trying to think of something original and was watching a lot of Invader Zim at the time..

    From this name spawned RoRP which I keep meaning to redesign, but never get around to...oh well.


    Does anyone have an opinion of Flexcut tools? Since I started this thread I have found that you can get individual tools with handles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toolbagsPLUS View Post
    Last word...don't baulk at the price they are worth every $.

    Happy Tapping

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    Lol, you've got it backwards mate. Pfeil are the cheap ones! The fact taht I see them for half (or less) the price of Sorby or Taylor tools is why I was unsure about them, but they seem to have a very good reputation.

    Thanks for your advise

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    Well there ya go.. that's how good they are I have not been shopping for a long time so don't know the current prices...do remember the wife was not to impressed.
    Still got both thought! Not sure which has the sharpest edge????


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    Quote Originally Posted by toolbagsPLUS View Post
    Well there ya go.. that's how good they are I have not been shopping for a long time so don't know the current prices...do remember the wife was not to impressed.
    Still got both thought! Not sure which has the sharpest edge????


    Cheers
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    LMAO nice one steve
    niece to see you back mate

    have to PM me and will get my hands on some of them nice tool rolls
    got 2 or 3 people asking after them

    As for price well they have just gone up at carba tec
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    Rubber, I like Pfeil and also Ashley Isles. both nice to hold and hold a edge very well. have not tried others.

    Which tastes the best, LAMB or MUTTON.

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    I've got a soft spot for my old (120yrs) Addis chisels,
    probably more to do with their history than how they cut,
    pfeil still do it for me though

    what if the hokey pokey is really what it's all about?

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    Look ya bloody amatures, I'm telling ya, I've got one bloody Phiel, Pheil, Fell, whatever, it's small, got a crook in it and I'm pretty sure it's a bloody gouge OK, well it chipped when I was using it to bloody gouge out a bloody hollow into a bloody bit of bloody hardwood to make a bloody boat, something I'm preeetty sure it's bloody well made for.















    phew, glad I got that off me bloody chest

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    Quote Originally Posted by springwater View Post
    Look ya bloody amatures, I'm telling ya, I've got one bloody Phiel, Pheil, Fell, whatever, it's small, got a crook in it and I'm pretty sure it's a bloody gouge OK, well it chipped when I was using it to bloody gouge out a bloody hollow into a bloody bit of bloody hardwood to make a bloody boat, something I'm preeetty sure it's bloody well made for.

    phew, glad I got that off me bloody chest
    springwater dont hate the brand coz u got one bad tool
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