Thread: Hei Matau

Brilliant!

You are a good mate and very clever.

How much overlapping on the hook? Got a side view?

ta. I guess the body is about 5-6mm thick and overall might be 8mm deep so it does spiral and overlap. The overlapped portions fair out thinner to create the gap if that makes sense. Sorry didn't think to take a side shot.

Cheers
Michael

Really nice carve mic
a great thing about traditional Maori designs is that they scale up really well.
That piece 6 ft tall would be even awesomer.
What tools did you use?

Originally Posted by underfoot

Really nice carve mic
a great thing about traditional Maori designs is that they scale up really well.
That piece 6 ft tall would be even awesomer.
What tools did you use?

Thanks Undy.
I cut it out with a coping saw, used a 3mm bit to drill the holes, then roughed it out with various carving tools, skew, 3F/20 and 11/3 and maybe a gougew from my no-name kit. Sanding to arrive at the final contours. I like the Maori designs, and would like to make more, but I feel I have no right to carve these cultural symbols...
A big one eh? might drop it on my toe...
Cheers
Michael

Beautifully executed Mic.!!!

I like the look of the grain in the wood. Where did you get it.?

Nice piece of work
Always a tricky one the "cultural appropriation" question. I've always believed that using aspects of style is ok as long as you are using it in a new or different way, not just copying things that have value and meaning that we may not understand.

Originally Posted by artme

Beautifully executed Mic.!!!

I like the look of the grain in the wood. Where did you get it.?

Thks. Yep it's lovely wood. Came from the big pile in my garage Was a tree that died in our paddock. When the bark fell off it revealed the whole tree was fiddleback. Right I said, I'll have that... I still have pen blanks for sale And some larger lumps

Originally Posted by Iggy

Nice piece of work
Always a tricky one the "cultural appropriation" question. I've always believed that using aspects of style is ok as long as you are using it in a new or different way, not just copying things that have value and meaning that we may not understand.

Thanks Iggy.

Cheers
Michael

Yeah good little present Mic, the recipientt should be wrapped, I love the intimacyy of doing small things, if that's the right word

Originally Posted by mic-d

. I like the Maori designs, , but I feel I have no right to carve these cultural symbols...

Having spent time in NZ working and collaborating with a number of Maori carvers/artists, a regular topic of conversation was about cultural appropriation.
(reason being is that so many non Maori are using their designs in NZ . also, the sensitivity with which we have to treat aborigional culture in OZ)

The impression I walked away with from these carvers was a pride that Maori culture(art, design, history etc) has the strength to influence all New Zealanders.

The idea that someone copying generic Maori design somehow dilutes their ownership seemed odd to the folks I was working with.

Having said that, there are distinct tribal icons and designs that are specific to certain groups. Copying these would be equivalent to being born white, middle class in melbourne and going to work (as an accountant) dressed as a Zulu warrior...
....interesting ...but probably would'nt worry the Zulus

Thanks for relating that story. I might do some more

Cheers
Michael

Originally Posted by underfoot

Having spent time in NZ working and collaborating with a number of Maori carvers/artists, a regular topic of conversation was about cultural appropriation.
(reason being is that so many non Maori are using their designs in NZ . also, the sensitivity with which we have to treat aborigional culture in OZ)

The impression I walked away with from these carvers was a pride that Maori culture(art, design, history etc) has the strength to influence all New Zealanders.

The idea that someone copying generic Maori design somehow dilutes their ownership seemed odd to the folks I was working with.

Having said that, there are distinct tribal icons and designs that are specific to certain groups. Copying these would be equivalent to being born white, middle class in melbourne and going to work (as an accountant) dressed as a Zulu warrior...
....interesting ...but probably would'nt worry the Zulus