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5th November 2012, 09:30 PM #1Intermediate Member
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Hobby Horse Head
A while ago I posted I was doing a Rocking horse ( https://www.woodworkforums.com/f11/la...plunge-159019/ ).
Well I haven't quite started as yet but decided to do a hobby horse head as a practice as I haven't carved before. My son (2) gave me the idea as he was running around with an old broom handle pretending it was a horse and riding it around So I thought why not I'll need the practice and its no so daunting.
I got this piece of wood off my old man, its a piece of Atlantic Pine and very aromatic! Very nice smell but after band sawing it, it gave me a headache. I tried to get two out of the piece of wood but there was a flaw (fork in tree) in it, which ran too deep. I expected it to be no good but cut it out any way, May end up using it to make the mount for the wheel on the other end.
The one with the crack is more of a stylized head out of Andrew Dews book and an easier one to do (I was going to do that one first), but it will have weight now as I need to find another piece of wood. If any one knows where I can get a nice piece of wood 200 x 150 x 75mm In Newcastle area let me know (Turning blank suppliers etc) as I would still like to do this one as I like the style.
I started the carving side of things on Sunday arvo. The tools used so far are: Hand saw, Band saw, 1" chisel, spoke shave, and a rasp around the front of neck. I will start using the other chisels I baught, after sgarpining them this week end and post some more pic
I am quite happy with the result so far. But I haven't done the hard detailed bits yet.
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5th November 2012, 10:55 PM #2Intermediate Member
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6th November 2012, 11:39 AM #3
Nice work so far.
Re pic 4, looks like the wee fellah is baptising it with it's new name already.
RegardsHugh
Enough is enough, more than enough is too much.
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13th November 2012, 08:44 PM #4Intermediate Member
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Another progress pic
For a first carving I'm not finding it as frustrating as I thought it would be. And I may get addicted
I will be looking for some more chisels soon as I will need some bigger half round ones for roughing and shaping when I do the rocking horse.
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14th November 2012, 12:42 PM #5GOLD MEMBER
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You must have some serious band saw!
This has the makings of an absolutely grand project = with care it should last for many decades
to be handed down.
Now that you are out of the gate, please indulge me with a couple of suggestions =
Carver's gouges: Judging by the project size, you have to figure out how to clamp it down.
You need a 30oz lead-core mallet and a 9/15 for hogging out waste. Then a 2/30 for smoothing.
Your spoke shave will serve you well. I'm not so sure that you need smaller sized gouges.
Dinky detail may spoil the majesty of the overall head concept & design.
Carving sharp is not carpentry sharp nor kitchen sharp. Proper leather strop on wood and honing compound.
PS: pine, any species of pine, is a right booger to carve any sort of detail.
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14th November 2012, 07:41 PM #6Intermediate Member
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I specifically used a new blade on the saw 10 or 12mm deep so wasn't the best blade for getting around the curves. but with a few passes in both directions in the tight spots I got around.
The chisels I will post some pics up, I sharpend them all to 25 degree's. For the roughing I mainly used my 3/4" flat chisel. I only just bought all my chisels bar my 1". I just ground them on my grinder then used 800 grit wet n dry on flat surface. I do own a strop but haven't had any luck sharpening with it as yet, admittedly I've only tried sharpening a cut throat I made the handle for. I did get a very god edge with the wet n dry.
My mallets My old man just made for me on his lathe, (3) the smallest is too light and I will need to put a weight in in. they are all out of one piece.
The holding I have already drilled the base for the dowel to be fitted once finished and I will use a short length of dowel and a 3" screw through the center for clamping. I've used the head so far for holding.
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15th November 2012, 03:44 AM #7GOLD MEMBER
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That should go well. I'd like to see your custom-made mallets.
But without enough mass, they can't help much.
My 30oz with the lead core is as big as I'll ever need. Love it.
Standard bevel for wood carving gouges is 20 degrees.
There's enough steel behind that edge for both hard and soft woods.
Hard woods, you just make thinner cuts.
On the strop, when you get to the end of each pull stroke, STOP.
Keep your elbows tight against your sides to preserve the working angle.
Lift the tool straight up. If you pull it up, that can only round off
the bevel to something unworkable like 40+ degrees.
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15th November 2012, 06:52 AM #8
Impressive workmanship......could even go as a "rook" in a chess set???
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15th November 2012, 08:57 AM #9
I like what you have started to do for this one.
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15th November 2012, 06:16 PM #10Intermediate Member
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The mallets are:150g, 350g, 660g, the bigger two are out of merbu and the smaller is out of Pine I think, (he made the third one as he thought I'd need a lighter one) it is way too light to use and I may weight it but I think it will be too small any way as for the amount of force needed hand carving/force I think will be sufficient.
here is a photo of my chisels too, I think I will try the 20 degree on a few of the chisels and see how it affects the cutting. dos that make them a bit thin for hard woods?
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16th November 2012, 04:39 AM #11GOLD MEMBER
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No, I don't believe that 20 degrees is too thin for hard woods.
Old dry birch (Betula sp.) or Alder (Alnus sp.) is tough slugging,
Heeding god advice, I just went for thinner cuts and it worked OK.
20 seems to be the industry standard for carving gouges.
You are pushing the wood open to whatever bevel angle the tool has.
25 degrees is a harder push than 20. I've done that with skew chisels
to make sweeping, curved relief cuts.
In really soft woods, I make the stop cuts with a carving knife (like a Moor lg. chip knife).
I can get to the same depth eventually but I need only to cut the wood open 12 degrees.
The 20 degree bevel of a carver's stop chisel (like a 1/8 or a 1/12) exerts a lot of
sideways pressure and I've broken/split some not so delicate parts that I wanted to save.
I'm doing a relief carving in a 18mm pine box top and I've lost some bits already.
Good thing it's just for myself.
Thanks for the pic of your mallets. I'd like to have a nice wooden one some day.
My lead-core mallet is about 850g (30 oz). It was hard to get used to the mass
but from a little tap to a full swing, I can get the work done.
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