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10th October 2018, 01:36 PM #1GOLD MEMBER
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150mm ROS sander
Need a new 150mm sander. What are the pros and cons of the festool ETS EC150/3 vs the Mirka deros.
Does the deros have a hole pattern if one chooses not to use abranet?
Confused about the sandpaper for festool - festool has a new hole pattern? Does anyone make 48 hole paper except festool? The granat gets good a review but if there is a cheaper option that would be great.
I've seen some ceramic abrasives in the auto industry but i don't think it has the festool pattern.
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10th October 2018, 06:13 PM #4Taking a break
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The Mirka pad has a 15 hole pattern (ring of 8 + ring of 6 + centre) plus a whole stack of small holes in between
Hermes has a compatible hard pad with a 17 hole pattern (8 + 8 + centre) if you prefer, but it's not as well balanced as the Mirka and there is slightly more vibration when running.
I haven't used the DEROS, but I bought the CEROS many years ago and I firmly believe it's the best ROS available.
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I don't use anything anymore, I left the industry a few months ago, but we were using Revcut Blue. Pretty sure it's AlOx
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10th October 2018, 07:24 PM #7
For what it's worth I recently grabbed the ETS EC 150/3 myself. At the moment, I am using some Festool Granat (48 hole) sandpaper on it, and I'm very impressed with the sander, smoothness of it, and extraction.
I do plan on trying some Abranet, but didn't have that available at hand when I bought the sander, so that side of things will have to wait - according to all reports I've heard, it beats the Festool paper... and that both amazes me (because the Festool paper is very good in my eyes already) and intrigues me
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10th October 2018, 07:31 PM #8GOLD MEMBER
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Revcut blue looks very affordable! Im sure its good stuff if your old company was using it at a professional level
I see that it has 8 holes on the outside and a centre hole - these 8 holes line up with the 8 outer holes on the mirka yeah?
Curious why you left the industry? What are you doing now?
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10th October 2018, 07:39 PM #9GOLD MEMBER
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Qwertyu,
I have the Festool ETS150/5. I find it OK but nothing super special. If I was doing it again I’m fairly confident I’d buy a Mirka. Lighter in the hand, and I really like the Abranet. I use Abranet on the Festool and I have a Mirka hand sander with the hose that fits into my Festool shop vac.
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10th October 2018, 07:43 PM #10GOLD MEMBER
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From what I've read the granat is very good sandpaper - its ceramic and aluminium oxide.
There is also the sia mesh which is ceramic and aluminium oxide.
I've read that mesh type discs can rip easily too - have read that about both abranet and sia mesh.
Does anyone know if there is a bricks and mortar shop in Melb where I can pick up/hold a deros?
Part of me feels like sticking with festool as they're everywhere and should be easier if I have an issue. I have also read about electrical issues with mirka sanders, despite generally considered the best ROS on the market (even compared to the ETS EC)
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Never had an Abranet mesh disc or pad tear on me, and it lasts so much longer as it doesn’t clog so easily.
Just to clarify - when I said I’d buy a Mirka if doing it again I was referring to the Ceros not the Deros.
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I use the Mirka Ceros. It's awesome. I am also using SiaNet discs. They've never ripped for me, even when I catch a corner. They haven't even felt like coming close to ripping. I haven't tried to deliberately rip them with my hands, but I imagine it would be a difficult task. They work super good, very long lasting and they seem to have very little in the way of wild grains. (not sponsored, not an ad, just a happy lad impressed with the sandpaper).
https://www.thesandpaperman.com.au/5...ding-disc.html
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10th October 2018, 08:02 PM #13GOLD MEMBER
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Just to confirm, the ceros is only 5mm orbit? Does anyone find it cumbersome to have a separate inverter box?
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10th October 2018, 08:05 PM #14Taking a break
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It's excellent value for money; sure stuff like Abranet lasts longer, but I'm not convinced that the lifespan goes up in proportion to the price.
Yes, the Mirka pad works with all standard 8+1 hole discs. We bought the discs with a 17-hole pattern to suit the Festool sanders everyone else was using, so I got the Hermes pad that had the matching pattern.
I left for a variety of reasons, one of the main ones being my health: I have been diagnosed with nonallergic rhinitis (it's basically permanent hayfever), I don't know if my constant exposure to wood dust is the cause, but it is definitely a trigger (as are any other airborne particles). I have seen an allergy specialist and there is no known cure, de-sensitisation treatments don't work because it's not an allergic reaction, so I basically have to live on antihistamines and nasal spray forever. Other reasons for the change include opportunity for wage growth, wanting something with more precision and working out that I much prefer the machining side to the construction side.
I've started a new apprenticeship in Fitting & Turning which seems to tick all the boxes.
EDIT: Just saw the other posts made while I was typing. There is a 3mm version as well and I just left the inverter hanging off the back of the vacuum, it never got in the way or was a hassle.
BC Coatings in Dandenong South stocks Mirka, you should be able to have a feel of both the CEROS and DEROS
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Yeah this is what I need to weigh up.
Do you know if the 17-hole pattern also fits the new 48 hole pattern? Or does anyone else know?
That sucks. So even without exposure to the dust you get hayfever like symptoms 24/7? Ive had on-going allergy issues for years and have seen multiple allergy specialists. I was getting a post-nasal drip and was coughing on-off for literally years and took ages to figure out the problem. I was using nasal sprays for a very long time until I was able to take control over the symtoms. If your using nasonex (strongest over the counter spray) I found that chemist warehouse has a generic version which is much cheaper. All the best it all and the new industry
Thanks for that. Will check it out
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