Thread: An 18th century style European Ash cricket table.

Originally Posted by Woodwould

I don't know what the etymology of the word cricket (the game) is. It would be nice to think the game was named after a cricket table because someone assimilated the three stumps with the table.

Maybe they used a Cracket for the wicket? Would hold the drink too. And be a deterant for the bowler.

Originally Posted by Manuka Jock

Nice thought but no .
The third stump did not come into the game in till the late 1700s.
The game itself and it's name is at least twice that old

Nothing like someone actually knowing something to ruin a good story.

Cricket (the game).

According to Wikipedia -

Derivation of the name of "cricket"

A number of words are thought to be possible sources for the term "cricket". In the earliest known reference to the sport in 1598 (see below), it is called creckett. The name may have been derived from the Middle Dutch krick(-e), meaning a stick; or the Old English cricc or cryce meaning a crutch or staff [2]. Another possible source is the Middle Dutch word krickstoel, meaning a long low stool used for kneeling in church and which resembled the long low wicket with two stumps used in early cricket.
According to Heiner Gillmeister, a European language expert of Bonn University, "cricket" derives from the Middle Dutch met de (krik ket)sen (i.e., "with the stick chase"), which also suggests a Dutch connection in the game's origin. It is more likely that the terminology of cricket was based on words in use in south east England at the time and, given trade connections with the County of Flanders, especially in the 15th century when it belonged to the Duchy of Burgundy, many Middle Dutch[3] words found their way into southern English dialects


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Originally Posted by tea lady

Maybe they used a Cracket for the wicket? Would hold the drink too. And be a deterant for the bowler.

Hence the two 'silly mid ' positions eh

Grand wee table there WoodWould
cheers for sharing it with us , and the WiP as well

Originally Posted by Manuka Jock

Hence the two 'silly mid ' positions eh

to rescue the drinks, or get wet if the batsman is bowled. I think we should add this to the wicki definition.

Nice work on the table, Woodwould. If I hang around here too much longer I'm in danger of actually being educated on the history of furniture!

Thanks,

Once again I'm in awe! That's a beautiful piece of work. I aspire to create pieces like that, which combine simple, uncluttered design, excellent functionality and superb craftmanship.

It humbles me that such a master is willing to share his work with us.

BTW, I learnt to drink around pub tables like that in the UK

Thanks.

Originally Posted by rhancock

BTW, I learnt to drink around pub tables like that in the UK

Thanks.

Ah ha , Cracket table = Craic table eh

I too enjoy your posts and commentary WW - most informative and entertaining. Many thanks for sharing techniques and experiences in woodworking and life. Like myself, it seems that you generally complete your projects without a vast array of machinery as well (maybe I'm wrong?), which is somewhat refreshing.

I must admit to being a little intrigued by what appears to be square pegs in round holes, though. Maybe I missed something? Also a little intrigued as to your age and origins. Nosey bar-steward, aren't I?

Wayne

Originally Posted by Hardenfast

I too enjoy your posts and commentary WW - most informative and entertaining. Many thanks for sharing techniques and experiences in woodworking and life. Like myself, it seems that you generally complete your projects without a vast array of machinery as well (maybe I'm wrong?), which is somewhat refreshing.

I must admit to being a little intrigued by what appears to be square pegs in round holes, though. Maybe I missed something? Also a little intrigued as to your age and origins. Nosey bar-steward, aren't I?

Wayne

Thanks! I bought some tools recently as I sent my life time's worth of tools to my son in a wooden wine box (not including my jointer) when I 'retired'. I'm not a tool collector; I enjoy what tools I have and I only own what I require. I have a basic lathe only because that's the tool required to make square legs round. I have little interest in turning for turning's sake. It's been said I can turn OK though.

I've always had a number of bandsaws; mainly because I don't like changing blades (well one was a monster cast iron brute that I kept primarily for sawing really wide veneer). I've never liked table saws since seeing a 36" blade leap out of a cast iron table and cut a swathe through my back yard timber mill rafters and roof and have therefore never bought a really good one. The one I have at the minute is abysmal. I would normally do all my sawing on the bandsaw, but Triton absorbed my fence during their insolvency, so I can't even use that at the moment. Ingenuity is probably my best tool.

I talk about the pegs in more detail in this thread.

I'm an ancient mongrel of dubious origins.

Lovely table WW.

Woodwould,

Thank you for another expose into the history of furniture and woodwork, via the Cricket Table project. Your posts not only teach the art and techniques of fine furniture, but their historical context as well. We lesser mortals are all the richer for your capacity and willingness to pass on the knowledge and experience of a lifetime. Thanks again and well done.