3 phase in a small shed. Yea or Nay?

**Skew ChiDAMN!!** · 28th January 2008, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by ian

I don't know where you are but check very carefully with your council's requirements

That's in the works, but they can't seem to agree between themselves what their requirements are.

I suspect the current trend to subdividing house lots into several units has had them hastily rearranging regulations and that they may be reconsidering some things that they've permitted recently.

usually it's only prefab garden sheds that are exempt from the DA process AND you usually have to be at least 1.2m from the neighbour's fence
so your 4.5 x 4.5 has immediately become 3.3 x 3.3

Yep. I believe that in our council it's only 0.9m from the fence line, but there's also a minimum clearance from the eaves for a freestanding erection. The existing garage wall is on the fence line and I'm hoping I can continue that line with one wall of the shed to gain as much floor space as possible.

Originally Posted by ian

I'll think you'll find that no DA now — which would include engineering plans — means no second story at a later date

Ye gods, I hate suburbia. (I wanna go home!

)

You're probably right, I wouldn't be surprised if all my plans need to be thrown out the window and that I'll end up working from a car-port with tarps hanging off the sides.

this might be the "killer" arguement for continued "ownership" of the garage

I don't think so; logic hasn't worked so far. But time, a little stealth and piles of timber slowly growing until she can't park without knocking 'em over should do the trick.

(It worked last time.

)

**Wood Borer** · 28th January 2008, 06:52 AM

Where is the new place Skew?

Does the title of your thread give a clue?

**Big Shed** · 28th January 2008, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!!

Yep. I believe that in our council it's only 0.9m from the fence line, but there's also a minimum clearance from the eaves for a freestanding erection. The existing garage wall is on the fence line and I'm hoping I can continue that line with one wall of the shed to gain as much floor space as possible.

Most councils will allow brick walls on the fence line.

**artme** · 28th January 2008, 09:37 AM

Sorry Skew. I posted before but only on the subject of the mezzanine idea.
I would certainly give 3 phase "space" in my shed if I could.
As Jim said, doing it first up is cheapest and the added grunt you get with 3 phase machinery is a distinct advantage.

**Chris Parks** · 28th January 2008, 10:01 AM

I have a standard height shed with a mezzanine "shelf" so to speak. I am a short fella and made it just above my head height and bugger anyone else's head. It is 1.2 x 7.5 metres and holds all the stuff I don't need on a daily basis and all HER stuff that we can't do without but never use and all our son's spare karts and crap that he never uses because he can only drive one at a time. This shelf has the restriction of only having crawl height between the roof and the shelf but it is so handy I would not be without it. One of my benches is under it so that floor area is not usable anyway and I have found that the lack of height in that particular area of the shed is not a great problem as I have plenty of area not under it which in the OP's case he does not. Another way I gained room was the bottom story of my garage is underground, we had a large steeply sloping area so it was excavated level and this became a workshop with the garage for the cars on top of it. The only problem with that, even doing the majority of the work myself was it became hugely expensive and I stopped counting when we had spent more than what the house and land cost us!

**Waldo** · 28th January 2008, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!!

Ye gods, I hate suburbia. (I wanna go home!

)

Take off this uniform and leave the show.

**Skew ChiDAMN!!** · 28th January 2008, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by Wood Borer

Where is the new place Skew?

Kilsyth. Sadly, just a block over from that Waldo character

- it's the same council shire we're currently in.

We were looking at moving out Koorumburra way but would've lost Dad's care entitlements, which are pretty substantial.

**PenTurner** · 28th January 2008, 04:01 PM

Skew, if you can get three phase to the house for any reason at initial moving in, DO IT! As has been said, if in the future it needs connecting to the garage , it is already there to be able to do so with out another lot of paper work. Amos

**Wood Borer** · 29th January 2008, 10:54 AM

Skew,

Sorry to hear you are only moving to Kilsyth at this time as I know your heart is in the bush. Maybe next move will be to the bush.

**echnidna** · 29th January 2008, 10:58 AM

forget the 3 phase and build a bigger shed with the money

**Waldo** · 29th January 2008, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by Wood Borer

Skew,

Sorry to hear you are only moving to Kilsyth at this time as I know your heart is in the bush. Maybe next move will be to the bush.

What about sorry that he's moving a block from me?

Nah, it's good

**jmk89** · 29th January 2008, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Waldo

What about sorry that he's moving a block from me?

Nah, it's good

I can see a new poll - which Forum member would you not want to live only one block away from?

**silentC** · 29th January 2008, 11:31 AM

I got the sparky to put in the cabling for three phase in case I ever need it. Figured it would be cheaper to run the cables at the same time than to dig a new trench and lay conduit later. May never need it but it's there if I do.

**Wood Borer** · 29th January 2008, 12:16 PM

I just swear at our SWER

**Stuart** · 29th January 2008, 02:38 PM

Go up, and down - get a TokyoStu situation happening!

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