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28th August 2020, 02:23 PM #1
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Advice on angles on a basic side table
Hello,
My first project for a long while.
My tools are basic hand tools, fixed drop saw, electric saw, drill, clamps, hand saw, jigsaw, square, hand plane, grinder and blunt chisels.
I want to make a simple version of the attached table as a side table made out of ply.
45cm top, 56cm high.
See my plans: Under the circle top, I will make a cross out of ply and same for the base. This will save checking 2 joints with my blunt chisel and should look ok. The 4 legs will by dressed 42mm*19mm. I will use hidden pocket holes to join the legs.
The crosses will be 5cm shorter than the top (2.5cms on each side). - 40cm
My question is mainly around the base. What angle should I use, or should I just make it 2.5 cms shorter on both sides again? - 35cm ?.
Thoughts?
Also I will try and stain it a very dark color, any ideas on what dark color stain will give it a similar effect. Styles not brands as I may not be able to get the brand you suggest.
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29th August 2020, 12:03 PM #2
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The one in the photo appears to have a smaller base which would give you the same angles for the connection to the top cross as the bottom cross.
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29th August 2020, 01:46 PM #3
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Just do what we all have to do when faced with the same question . Work it out .
Scale drawings or just drawn out life size on a board are good but for angles like that you’d just be drawing the side view and that may not be good enough to get an accurate idea of how it compares to the picture .
So a small scale or life size Mock up with scrap wood could be the go .
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7th September 2020, 09:58 AM #4
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I went to a furniture store and measured some angles with my phone, they were all at about 80 degrees (10 degrees), so I will try that.
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7th September 2020, 03:07 PM #5
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Originally Posted by billgates
This sounds a bit much.
Eighty degree rake on a 560 mm leg means a toe in of almost 99 mm per leg. If the top is 450 mm wide, then the base will be only 252 mm. [450 - 99 - 99 = 252]
This does not seem very stable.
It might be worth making a scale model in cheap materials - eg MDF, plywood or radiata pine - and testing it. I do this with most of my new designs, usually changing them in detail, sometimes radically.
Here is a model of a chair, and the completed chair - note differences:
IMG_0564.jpg IMG_0661.jpg IMG_0668.jpg
Maquette was made from cherry wood because a back yard tree had just died; chair is celery top pine.
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7th September 2020, 03:47 PM #6
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This should give you a bit of a pictorial of the angle you measured and one a bit less using the dimensions Graeme quoted.
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7th September 2020, 06:39 PM #7
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As Rob writes, draw it up. Don't wing it. Originally Posted by auscab
Just do what we all have to do when faced with the same question . Work it out .
Scale drawings or just drawn out life size on a board are good but for angles like that you’d just be drawing the side view and that may not be good enough to get an accurate idea of how it compares to the picture .
So a small scale or life size Mock up with scrap wood could be the go .
I make full scale drawings on 6mm MDF. These can then be used as templates.
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