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30th June 2006, 09:24 AM #1GOLD MEMBER
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Advice on cutting rebates
Hi, I need some advice on technieque. I recently needed to cut 6mm x 6mm STOPPED rebates on a single aris of each of four boards.The grain was fairly cranky. The results were pretty ordinary. I'm wondering if there is a better method I am overlooking. I tried:
1. no 78 - was OK in the middle, but the length of the rebate was about twice the length of the sole, so the bits it couldnt reach were longer then the bits it could. That left me cleaning up over half the length of the rebate with chisels - most of which was against the grain.
2. no 71 - medicore result.
3. no 271 - too flimsy
4. shoulder plane - same problem as the 78, except not quite as bad, plus nothing to cut the vertical face.
5. plough plane - same problem as shoulder plane
6. chisels - slow and not particularly neat.
So is there something I am missing. How would you do this (without power tools) please ?
thanks
Arron
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30th June 2006, 09:38 AM #2UnPlugged
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Originally Posted by Arron
If God didn't want us to use power tools, he wouldn't have made electrons.
(assuming of course that you believe a God exists but that's a topic I'm not allowed to speculate on in here)
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30th June 2006, 09:55 AM #3.
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Originally Posted by Arron
RE: your problem, what about a low angle chisel plane?
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30th June 2006, 08:51 PM #4
Arron, further to Bob's chisel plane idea, what about using the 78 with the blade in the forward position? Or have you tried this?
Cheers................Sean
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
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30th June 2006, 09:02 PM #5
I'd say your right. Planes, for stability, need a nose. ie. something ahead of the blade to work. So there definetly out.
I agree, a powered router would do this particular process fastest. Especially if its cranky grain.
But you can pull it off with a 71, though it may still leave tearout problems......but your right by itself it doesn't feel particularily stable. What I'd do is fasten a deep fence and a wider sole to it so you've got more leverage to keep it from leaning over.....that should be fine then.
Does it matter if there's a little tearout in places ? Will this stopped rebate be uncovered ?
I think Derek Cohens got a lovely modern version of the 71 that would pull that off.
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1st July 2006, 12:33 AM #6
did you cut the edges of the rebate first with a knife or chisel?
perhaps you could remove much of the waste with a chisel before finishing up with a plane?
cheersAny thing with sharp teeth eats meat.
Most powertools have sharp teeth.
People are made of meat.
Abrasives can be just as dangerous as a blade.....and 10 times more painfull.
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1st July 2006, 02:01 AM #7
Arron
OK, this is what I would do for a stopped rebate.
Tools: sharp and heavy Japanese knife.
Mugingfang cutting gauge
LN #98/99
Veritas router plane
1" chisel
Method: Use the cutting gauge to mark off the boundaries of the rebate (both sides - upper and lower). Knife these as deeply as you can.
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I would now chisel out as much of the waste as possible, getting to about 2mm of the lines. You will need to keep knifing one shoulder while you pare into it with a chisel.
Now use the router plane to level it out.
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Finally, to fine tune the dimensions, use a #98 or #99 in bullnose configuration. This will square both ends of the rebate and provide a smooth, even finish to the side wall.
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If you choose, finish with a bullnose plane (e.g. Stanley #90)
Regards from Perth
Derek
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