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    Default advice on gluing requested

    Purchased a new tablesaw blade this week and its a beauty :

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...um/blade1w.jpg

    but the practice mitre cut is so smooth I seriously wonder if it's face is unsuitable to take a good glue contact.
    Did I ought to scratch the joint surface a little for glue to have something to anchor too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jow104 View Post
    Did I ought to scratch the joint surface a little for glue to have something to anchor too?
    No ruffing things up for a better glue joint is a myth and has no validity the smoother the surface the better.

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    I agree, just glue the untouched cut surface.

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    G'day John,
    Because it usually is end grain, Saint Doug Stowe says, let the first application of glue gel a little as it absorbs into the end grain, then apply extra glue.
    He then usually keys the joint.
    Just passing on his info.

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    Cheers

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    Thanks for your confidence boosting replies, however I think the glue will drip off the cuts as they are very smooth
    woody U.K.

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    Since it is just a practice mitre cut, why not do a practice glue up and see what happens? Either that or get some good Aussie ironbark and take that fine edge off your blade

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    John,

    stop pulling our legs


    enjoy the new blade

    ian

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian View Post
    John,

    stop pulling our legs


    enjoy the new blade

    ian
    Knocking up a blade box to store my tablesaw blades and cut ply timber with new blade and then glued has butt joints as per picture below.



    Removed weights and clamps 3 hours later and every joint has failed. Never happened before

    Might be the cold weather only just over 50Far. here today, or is it the blade?.
    woody U.K.

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    Woody,
    I have a feeling you did not give the glue time to set and the temprature being so low did not help. I give any glued joint at least an overnight rest. What glue was it and did you follow the instructions. I think that a good clean cut from a new blade would be ok to glue. I always give my joint surfaces a wipe with spirit to remove dust and oils from the timber itself or from you'r fingers.

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    Glues do not "key-in" like paint coats do, glue absorbs amalgamtates and (cross)links.

    Two possible faults could be clamping, not enough time or pressure, and temperature;few glues set below 10 degrees C much longer setting/clamping time required.
    Most glues use around 20-22 Degrees C as standard temp for time recommenations.
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    Yes I expect its down to temperatures, the first failure of our winter, so its back to the kitchen for the next six months.
    I think I shall also have to batten corner joints because the ply I was using was that packing ply that was used on delivery of the new tablesaw, cheap and nasty.
    woody U.K.

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    HI John.

    Reglue the thing and put veneer 'feathers' across the joints to get the things to stick.

    Gluing end grain to face grain rarely works.

    CHeers,

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    Thanks for the advice.
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