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Thread: advice on gluing requested
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20th October 2007, 06:05 PM #1
advice on gluing requested
Purchased a new tablesaw blade this week and its a beauty :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...um/blade1w.jpg
but the practice mitre cut is so smooth I seriously wonder if it's face is unsuitable to take a good glue contact.
Did I ought to scratch the joint surface a little for glue to have something to anchor too?woody U.K.
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20th October 2007, 07:23 PM #2
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20th October 2007, 07:39 PM #3
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20th October 2007, 07:41 PM #4
G'day John,
Because it usually is end grain, Saint Doug Stowe says, let the first application of glue gel a little as it absorbs into the end grain, then apply extra glue.
He then usually keys the joint.
Just passing on his info.
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20th October 2007, 07:43 PM #5Cheers
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20th October 2007, 08:46 PM #6
Thanks for your confidence boosting replies, however I think the glue will drip off the cuts as they are very smooth
woody U.K.
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20th October 2007, 09:07 PM #7SENIOR MEMBER
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Since it is just a practice mitre cut, why not do a practice glue up and see what happens? Either that or get some good Aussie ironbark and take that fine edge off your blade
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20th October 2007, 11:22 PM #8
John,
stop pulling our legs
enjoy the new blade
ian
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21st October 2007, 01:39 AM #9
Knocking up a blade box to store my tablesaw blades and cut ply timber with new blade and then glued has butt joints as per picture below.
Removed weights and clamps 3 hours later and every joint has failed. Never happened before
Might be the cold weather only just over 50Far. here today, or is it the blade?.woody U.K.
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21st October 2007, 11:38 AM #10
Woody,
I have a feeling you did not give the glue time to set and the temprature being so low did not help. I give any glued joint at least an overnight rest. What glue was it and did you follow the instructions. I think that a good clean cut from a new blade would be ok to glue. I always give my joint surfaces a wipe with spirit to remove dust and oils from the timber itself or from you'r fingers.
Regards
John
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21st October 2007, 11:52 AM #11SENIOR MEMBER
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Glues do not "key-in" like paint coats do, glue absorbs amalgamtates and (cross)links.
Two possible faults could be clamping, not enough time or pressure, and temperature;few glues set below 10 degrees C much longer setting/clamping time required.
Most glues use around 20-22 Degrees C as standard temp for time recommenations..
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21st October 2007, 05:26 PM #12
Yes I expect its down to temperatures, the first failure of our winter, so its back to the kitchen for the next six months.
I think I shall also have to batten corner joints because the ply I was using was that packing ply that was used on delivery of the new tablesaw, cheap and nasty.woody U.K.
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21st October 2007, 08:34 PM #13SENIOR MEMBER
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HI John.
Reglue the thing and put veneer 'feathers' across the joints to get the things to stick.
Gluing end grain to face grain rarely works.
CHeers,
eddie
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21st October 2007, 09:33 PM #14
Thanks for the advice.
woody U.K.
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