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    Default Need advice / help to find a job.

    Hello,

    I need some advice on looking for a job. I’m currently looking for a furniture
    maker to start an apprenticeship with. I have completed a pre apprenticeship and I
    learn at fine furniture school every Monday night. I’d love to find someone or a
    company to continue to learn and work with. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
    Id be willing to move for the right opportunity!

    Also sorry if this is not supposed to be posted here, I’m a newbie. My teacher at school put me onto this forum.

    Kind Regards

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    Chris,

    Welcome to the forum, sorry I cant help with a job (as i dot have any contacts in the furniture trade), but thumbs up for trying different avenues, rather than just looking in the "wanted" adds.

    Best of luck.

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    Hi Chris
    I suggest you write up a brief resume of a bit about you what you have done, perhaps even include a couple of pictures of what you have made to show you are keen and then door knock businesses and leave your resume with them. Keep it brief and to the point or they won’t look at it.
    Secondly you will have a much better chance of getting an apprenticeship if you are already in the industry so you might consider getting a job as a labourer/ assistant at a business where you might be just delivering joinery, forklift driving etc etc but you are in the door and start making acquaintances with other workers there who have contacts in the industry and hear about opportunities. Even if it is not your dream job you have a foot in the door to get started

    You will find that a lot of jobs are not advertised and just filled by word of mouth.

    Good luck with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fumbler View Post
    Chris,

    Welcome to the forum, sorry I cant help with a job (as i dot have any contacts in the furniture trade), but thumbs up for trying different avenues, rather than just looking in the "wanted" adds.

    Best of luck.

    Thanks for the welcome and the kind words!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beardy View Post
    Hi Chris
    I suggest you write up a brief resume of a bit about you what you have done, perhaps even include a couple of pictures of what you have made to show you are keen and then door knock businesses and leave your resume with them. Keep it brief and to the point or they won’t look at it.
    Secondly you will have a much better chance of getting an apprenticeship if you are already in the industry so you might consider getting a job as a labourer/ assistant at a business where you might be just delivering joinery, forklift driving etc etc but you are in the door and start making acquaintances with other workers there who have contacts in the industry and hear about opportunities. Even if it is not your dream job you have a foot in the door to get started

    You will find that a lot of jobs are not advertised and just filled by word of mouth.

    Good I’d luck with it.

    Thats great advice thankyou.
    I’ll try those things for sure!

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    Welcome to the forum Chris.

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    Good Morning Christopher

    You have demonstated sound initiative which is what most employers are looking for; just keep persevering.

    May I add two small suggestions to what Beardy has suggested.

    First: Create a portfolio of your work. Good quality photos of your work so that you can show potential employees what you have done, and also that you are proud of the quality of your work so far. It can only get better.....

    Second: Keep a (private) list of every attempt that you have made to find an apprenticeship. Then, if an interviewer asks you can confidentally and truthfully answer along the floowing lines:
    I have done the following:
    • scanned the job vacancy boards at Centrelink at least weekly,
    • done on line searches at (list websites) 3 or 4 times a week,
    • talked frequently to my TAFE teachers,
    • asked for help on WoodworkForum (and any other websites),
    • door knocked every joinery within, say, five kilometres of home, and at least 4 times each to show that you are persistent,
    • talk, talk, talk to anyone who might be able to give you a lead,
    • plus anything esle that you can think of.


    Please note that a lot of employers have a policy of not phoning job applicants. They wait for you to ring back - he didn't ring, he was not really interested.... - A repeated two sentence call is all that's needed - "Chris here, could you please tell me if there has been any progress on my job appliocation.."

    Good luck


    Graeme

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    Quote Originally Posted by old1955 View Post
    Welcome to the forum Chris.
    Thankyou!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraemeCook View Post

    • door knocked every joinery within, say, five kilometres of home, and at least 4 times each to show that you are persistent,

    That's exactly how I got my apprenticeship; went through the phone book and gradually moved further out from where I lived. When the distances became to far to conveniently go in person (didn't have my licence at the time), I moved to phone calls.

    If you can drive a manual car (or are currently learning to do so), make sure to say so as it's definitely an advantage.

    Ask if there are opportunities for further training through the company, mention any extra skills you are interested in (CNC machining, traditional polishing/finishing, woven cord or cane seats, etc). Employers generally like people who want to learn and they may be happy to fully or partially fund further studies down the track.

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraemeCook View Post
    Good Morning Christopher

    You have demonstated sound initiative which is what most employers are looking for; just keep persevering.

    May I add two small suggestions to what Beardy has suggested.

    First: Create a portfolio of your work. Good quality photos of your work so that you can show potential employees what you have done, and also that you are proud of the quality of your work so far. It can only get better.....

    Second: Keep a (private) list of every attempt that you have made to find an apprenticeship. Then, if an interviewer asks you can confidentally and truthfully answer along the floowing lines:
    I have done the following:
    • scanned the job vacancy boards at Centreling at least weekly,
    • done on line searches at (list websites) 3 or 4 times a week,
    • talked frequently to my TAFE teachers,
    • asked for help on WoodworkForum (and any other websites),
    • door knocked every joinery within, say, five kilometres of home, and at least 4 times each to show that you are persistent,
    • talk, talk, talk to anyone who might be able to give you a lead,
    • plus anything esle that you can think of.


    Please note that a lot of employers have a policy of not phoning job applicants. They wait for you to ring back - he didn't ring, he was not really interested.... - A repeated two sentence call is all that's needed - "Chris here, could you please tell me if there has been any progress on my job appliocation.."

    Good luck


    Graeme
    Thanks Graeme! I really appreciate that. I’ll keep persisting and trying these things out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by elanjacobs View Post
    [/LIST]
    [/I]That's exactly how I got my apprenticeship; went through the phone book and gradually moved further out from where I lived. When the distances became to far to conveniently go in person (didn't have my licence at the time), I moved to phone calls.......
    Great minds and all that, Elan !

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    Well if you are in Auckland, I have a job for you. I am looking for a furniture maker to work full time in my workshop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elanjacobs View Post
    [/LIST]
    [/I]That's exactly how I got my apprenticeship; went through the phone book and gradually moved further out from where I lived. When the distances became to far to conveniently go in person (didn't have my licence at the time), I moved to phone calls.

    If you can drive a manual car (or are currently learning to do so), make sure to say so as it's definitely an advantage.

    Ask if there are opportunities for further training through the company, mention any extra skills you are interested in (CNC machining, traditional polishing/finishing, woven cord or cane seats, etc). Employers generally like people who want to learn and they may be happy to fully or partially fund further studies down the track.

    Good luck.
    Thanks Elan. I’ll definitely let businesses know I want to learn more and grow as a furniture maker!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert View Post
    Well if you are in Auckland, I have a job for you. I am looking for a furniture maker to work full time in my workshop.

    Albert,
    Im currently in Melbourne but would definitely consider shifting to NZ for the right opportunity! I travelled around NZ and visited Auckland a couple of years ago and loved it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by christopherjohn View Post
    Albert,
    Im currently in Melbourne but would definitely consider shifting to NZ for the right opportunity! I travelled around NZ and visited Auckland a couple of years ago and loved it!
    That's the sort of attitude I like to hear.

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