Thread: Advice please

At least a couple of hand planes, if not jointer/thicknesser, plus chisels, but purchase the tools has the need arises.

You could make your own sawhorses to save cash.

Years ago, before I was looking into larger projects, we made a bookcase for the kids. All we had was a circular saw and a small router and a small electric drill.
We had never even heard of dadoes.
We used the circular saw to cut the parts of the bookcase, the router to cut the grooves (I am using my at that time language ) for the shelves and some nice edges for the front of the carcase and the electric drill to screw it all together.
These days I would not consider anything but a cordless drill, the lithium ion powered ones never run out of power at critical times and you can use them anywhere.
Later on we got a jigsaw and a biscuit joiner and we made heaps of stuff for the home.
I have just had a look at the new Ryobi Table saw and for a very small work space I don't think it looks half bad. When the wings are folded down they do not take up much floor space.
Have fun
Wolffie

Originally Posted by jow104

At least a couple of hand planes, if not jointer/thicknesser, plus chisels, but purchase the tools has the need arises.

Yes I forgot Planers, I'll get a hand plane for sure. I don't think I can justify a jointer/thicknesser just yet but I would love to have something like this. I'll also be grabbing a pair of chisels too.

Thanks for the advice.

Years ago, before I was looking into larger projects, we made a bookcase for the kids. All we had was a circular saw and a small router and a small electric drill.
We had never even heard of dadoes.
We used the circular saw to cut the parts of the bookcase, the router to cut the grooves (I am using my at that time language ) for the shelves and some nice edges for the front of the carcase and the electric drill to screw it all together.
These days I would not consider anything but a cordless drill, the lithium ion powered ones never run out of power at critical times and you can use them anywhere.
Later on we got a jigsaw and a biscuit joiner and we made heaps of stuff for the home.
I have just had a look at the new Ryobi Table saw and for a very small work space I don't think it looks half bad. When the wings are folded down they do not take up much floor space.
Have fun
Wolffie

Thanks fot the advice, I'll go and have a look at those Ryobi's later in the week. For my design I do need to put some dadoes in as the side panels are ply. I also want to route the top but I didn't know how to show this in the sketchit program.

If I use a normal pine, do you think the shelves (Just under 1200mm x 300mm) will be strong enough to support books without bowing? If not I can change the design to put a support up the middle or perhaps use a stronger wood.

If I use a normal pine, do you think the shelves (Just under 1200mm x 300mm) will be strong enough to support books without bowing? If not I can change the design to put a support up the middle or perhaps use a stronger wood.[/quote]


At that length (1200) 19 mm clear pine should be ok for the shelves
Regards

Pal

If you need plans for sawhorses Pm me and I will dig up some plans for you. However you can get inexpensive , foldup ones at Bunnies for not many buck$.
You will need a vise and some clamps. there are some good inexpensive clamps on the market. Spend a bit more on your vise.
I nmy opinion jigsaws are a pain inthe posterior, especiall the cheaper ones.

G'Day GlenQLD,
This is probably my first piece ever built, about 15 yers ago with bugger all gear and bugger all Knowlege of how to build it.
Still going strong still in use !
built out of 19mm radiata pine and colonial skirtings, 1300 long x 1500 high.
No joints Screwed and glued.
Catch ya
Andrew

Thanks for the advice guys!

I took a trip to Bunnings today and scoped out some prices, now I just need to put a list of stuff together and go and buy it all.

Artme, I've shot you a PM, thanks in advance.

Ravlord13, that's a pretty nice bookshelf, If mine comes up half as good I'll be wrapped. I might actaully build a pantry for the kitchen first as we're running short on space in there.

I'll keep you lads posed on progress once I get started anyhow.

Cheers,

So I just got a quote for the timbre I need and it seemed quite expensive. I guess in my ignorance I didn't really expect to pay more for timbre than the cost of buying furniture retail. The price quoted was about $600 for Hoop Pine.

I really want to start this up as a hobby but I can't really justify $600 just for pine for a bookcase. Can anyone reccomend a way to bring down the cost of the timbre?

keep an eye on ebay

get a trailor or ute and do the rounds on council pickup days. Ive dismantled beds, tables, cabinets etc for timber and manufactured board.
You soon get over the "scab' feeling when you turn it into other stuff.
You just have to plan your project around the wood rather than the other way round.

Thanks again for the advice.

I've done some more reading of these forums and I'm still not sure the guy gave me the right price.

I have a few more questions. (Sorry to keep bugging you all, pricing and wood buying is very confusing)

Does $600 (approx) seem right for 9 of 2500x200x25 and 4 of 1800x45x45 of Pine?

Are longer cuts more expensive? E.g. 1000mm cheaper than 2000mm.

I've noticed a lot of people say "x will cost you z per cubic meter". I don't really get this does that mean in boards/slabs cut to make up a cubic meter? So if I was quoted $1000 for a cubic meter of radiata pine in 200x25 planks is this a good price?

I wont say where my quotes or anything are from as I'm not sure if these prices are right or if there's been some confusion with my quote.

This is a special at Lazarides on hoop pine in Brisbane at this time.
K.D. Rough Sawn Clear 1 Hoop Pine Set Length Shorts100 x 25 - 1 pack 121 @1.8, 2 packs [email protected], 1 pack [email protected] - $800M3150 x 38 - 1 pack [email protected], 2 packs [email protected], 2 packs [email protected] - $825M3.
It is usually cheaper to buy the cubic m as timber merchants charge for breaking the pack.
I can buy clear 195 x 19 radiata here at present for $ 13.00 a mtr. and seconds of the same size for a little over $10.00 a mtr.seconds just has a few knots in it and can adds character to the build.
It won,t matter the length you buy as the price is $ x a mtr so if you buy a Mtr it will cost you say $9.00 if you buy 8 mtr it will still cost $9.00 a mtr eg $72.00. for the 8 mtr.
Go to http://www.blocklayer.com/linealcubic.aspx might help you.

Glenn,

My advice on tools would be to buy the router before you consider a biscuit cutter. Using a 4mm slot cutter and a simple jig you can use biscuits in construction. I have put kitchen cabinets together with splines made of 4mm ply and a slot cutter.

Also consider a bandsaw before a jig saw. What is your rationale for a jig saw? The bandsaw might be more expensive but it's versatility is endless. I have 1/8thin blades that can perform as well as many scroll saws and a 1/2in blade for resawing planks up to 8 inches wide ( width does depend on the throat of the saw).

The only thing the table saw would have an advantage over the bandsaw is in accurately cutting sheet goods. So if you are not into sheet goods work you could, at a pinch, leave the purchase of a table saw for a while.

jerry

Everyone is entitled to my opinion