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  1. #1
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    Default Alder or Poplar substitute??

    Hi,

    I'm looking at making some wood climbing holds. Suggestions for wood from the North US have been Alder and Poplar - hardwood (?) that is soft enough to shape easily with a sander, yet when bolted will not crush like pine does.

    I have tried cypress, and will be trying redgum - but both seem very hard - and I would like to find something locally with a little more softness.

    Bolts are countersunk with a 25mm holesaw, and use a 3/8" washer and bolt.

    An example of an Alder hold is here:
    http://www.rockclimbing.com/photos/M...lds_64853.html

    Cheers,
    Andy

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    For guitar making I have heard that Silky Oak is a similar sounding timber to Alder. That would normally mean that it is similar in density. It isn't too bad to shape. Not sure about comressibility though - never really subjected it to load like you would get in climbing. You can buy Alder and Poplar in Aus too.

    Peter
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    tassy oak or vic ash would do quite well
    Regards, Bob Thomas

    www.wombatsawmill.com

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    Thanks for the quck replies. I will try sourcing some of this wood - does anyone know any good lumber yards in Castlemaine or Bendigo? Or should I just order through the hardware?

    Thru the hardware the Redgum is $15 a meter (100x100)- does that sound expensive?

    Thanks again,
    Andy

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    Theres a demolition yard in Golden Square, Bendigo, can't recall the name.

    Any of hardwood should do the job
    Regards, Bob Thomas

    www.wombatsawmill.com

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    Coachwood
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    Default Interesting use for Alder

    Rock Climbing Holds. I`ve been assembling ideas for Alder because that is the timber I intend milling.What have you made out of Alder?

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    Willow may work for that .
    It stands up to the constant crushing of a cricket ball ok .
    I recall hearing that it was used for truck decks at one time , so it can't be too bad for holding fast mechanically .

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    Robutacion just felled some poplar, (search the forum on these two words) he might be happy to mill some in the sizes you want.

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