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Thread: Small angle measurement??
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25th May 2012, 03:29 PM #1
Small angle measurement??
I've been working on a hall table I designed that includes a few compound angles and I found my angle marking/measuring equipment fell sadly short of the mark! The one tool that had the potential to help me was the gadget pictured but being made of plastic, the slightest pressure in any direction bends the arms and stuffs things up - and I do quite enough of that myself without having the tools help me! The question is - where do I find a steel version of this little beauty??? I'm sure I've seen one somewhere but I'm all googled out and came up empty handed Anyone know???
PS: Before suggesting the digital angle finders, I haven't seen one that is small enough to fit in the mouldings and places I want to measure - all 35mm or so wide so they need long sections to align against.Last edited by TTIT; 25th May 2012 at 03:30 PM. Reason: Forgot the pic!
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25th May 2012, 06:15 PM #3GOLD MEMBER
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Wouldnt a couple of sliding bevels get you out of trouble? They come in different sizes.
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25th May 2012, 09:50 PM #4
Can you make a set of templates from 3mm MDF?
cut one side dead straight
saw the other to close enough and then trim to exact fit using a plane clamped upside down in a viseregards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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25th May 2012, 10:21 PM #5
Do you have to measure the angles? Can you instead simply transfer them directly from the one piece to the other?
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25th May 2012, 10:51 PM #6
Went in to a shop and checked out the bevel protractors - but you need about 70mm each side of the angle before you can get a reference on it.
Smallest I've ever seen is about 120mm long so you still need surfaces of about 40mm before you get enough surface to align to
This requires skill with hand tools and time - - and I just don't have much of either I'm afraid
Originally Posted by derekcohen
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25th May 2012, 11:45 PM #7
I think you're mistaken
Don't underrate the skills you already have -- a plane with a sharp blade clamped upside down in a vice is almost as simple as they come
If you have a #7 or #8, you probably don't even need the vise just lay it on its side on your bench.
you hold the template in your fingers.regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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26th May 2012, 07:24 AM #8
Not sure if they are available in Aus but have you looked at the Lee valley / Veritas catalogue page 10-11 has the sort of things you want.
But the metal one is a little larger than the plastic one you have.Dragonfly
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26th May 2012, 08:33 AM #9
Find someone with a CNC machine.
Ask them to make a copy of the plastic one in aluminium at the size you need.
There are plenty of CNC members here.
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26th May 2012, 01:27 PM #10
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26th May 2012, 02:03 PM #11GOLD MEMBER
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I have the same bevel Ian has refered to, a Crown mini bevel. I also have another which is much smaller again, it fits comfortably in a match box. For the life of me, I cant remember where I got it. A well made little thing, brass/rosewood/blued blade. There is nothing written on it, but its not old, as was new when I bought it about 10years ago. So they are/were around.
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26th May 2012, 11:18 PM #12
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28th May 2012, 11:22 AM #13GOLD MEMBER
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I have a large metal one I bought from Timbecon in Perth many years ago - not cheap but invaluable.
Found it http://www.timbecon.com.au/products/...ors-318_1.aspx
Item T-103-C just below the identical one you have and cheaper than what I paid for mine years ago.Last edited by Bob38S; 28th May 2012 at 11:26 AM. Reason: Found catalog
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28th May 2012, 12:06 PM #14Jim
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Can't you just use a piece of stiff card. Hold it against one edge and a rule against the other. Draw a line using the rule and you have the angle.
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Jim
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29th May 2012, 05:39 AM #15
If you want something waaay out of the box, in fact straight from the garbage, you could use plasticine and some talcum powder on an inside angle (eg) to mould the intersection and - if it came away cleanly - measure it at your leisure.
Yes .. I know. I am receiving unprofessional help for it.
Paul.
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